Best for tracking goals: Piwik vs. OWA?

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Right now I'm trying to ditch g analytics and switch to either piwik or OWA.

The most important thing I use analytics for is goal tracking, and my goals are very simple. I just track how many uniques hit my different LP's and then I track which LP generates the most email opt-ins.

It looks like both Piwik and OWA will handle this easily, but is one in particular more reliable, stable, or easier to manage?
 


Ok i have used piwik on some wp sites and personally I think it sucks but hey its free so I am not bitchn. OWA don't know. But if I was going to track your setup I would use LPG and CPVLab.
 
1nspire said:
Ok i have used piwik on some wp sites and personally I think it sucks but hey its free so I am not bitchn. OWA don't know. But if I was going to track your setup I would use LPG and CPVLab.
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I appreciate the response, but my setup is unique and right now the most efficient solution for my system is either Piwik or OWA.

Anyone else?
 
I use OWA for the 9-5 reasons:

a) Does not buckle under a heavy load - Piwik seems to have trouble
b) Nice API

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charlesmartel said:
I haven't used Piwik in a while but when I did I noticed someone could find all of your sites from the tracking code. Something to think about.
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There's actually a way around that: How to …? - Piwik

Anyway,I'd actually be interested in anyone's opinion of OWA aswell. Haven't checked it out yet, but it's on my list to do so.

Unfortunately, Piwik doesn't seem overly reliable. Several of my customers will have a couple stats programs in place, and I keep hearing the traffic that Piwik reports is much lower than their other stats program.
 
Yes, we also have OWA report a little less.

This is in the 3% range for a site with 60K monthly views we get around 2K less unique visitors reported with OWA.


WebStats are a very strange breed, most numbers are estimates, based on flawed raw data (Unique users = unique IP's for example). Install 4 different stat programs and you will get 4 times different numbers.
That said, Javascript based tracking like Google Analytics, Piwik and OWA seem to be quite accurate. AND they also give more detail than purely based on web server logs.

The stats program we use normally is apache log based (awstats) and is also known for misfiring / misinterpreting a bit, so the numbers are often a bit higher.

Good news:
You can run both, a log file based stats program and a JS based one will not interfere with each other.

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I use Piwik and it's pretty damn close to what GA reports. The latest release is much faster and more reliable. Set the cron to run every hour and you should be all set.

I also use the proxy method posted above and it works great for hiding the tracking server.
 
I can't believe I was using google analytics for so long.

OWA is awesome. The interface is clean and simple, no added clutter. And I love the domstreams it's like clicktale without the clutter too.

If you're still using GA then scrap that shit and switch over to owa ASAP.

Thanks for the solid input everyone.
 
Piwik hands down.

The benefits:
1. clean interface
2. very stable
3. can handle huge traffic
4. the ecommerce functionality is one of the best Business Intelligence report
5. easy to use

owa is nice piece of software, but needs work. no goals to demonstrate on demo!

piwik has the possibility to send on weekly basis pdf reports right to your inbox.

the new version they preparing will track even more goals performance.
 
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