For those of you in college or who have gone.....

tonymontana said:
Thanks man, I'll keep that in mind.

Well, I'm a Canadian citizen, so McGill comes out to be fairly cheap for me (even though I live in the USA). I'm not a North Carolina resident, so it technically costs $40,000 a year (tuition, rent, everything), but they have one of the best financial aid packages in the country; so I very likely won't pay more than $23,000.

Anyways, so far I'm leaning towards UNC as well. I've been the Chapel Hill campus and it really is amazing. With that said, Montreal is an amazing city, with a lot more to do (hotter girls as well :p).
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seems like the question hinges on whether you intend to use that degree in the US or canada.
 


KyleCPA said:
Since you're from MD, lets talk about girls in the Maryland universities:

Towson, Loyola: Very good. More girls than guys, lots of partying, and they're hot and easy. Baltimore nearby as well for more options.

Salisbury: Good. More girls than guys, lots of partying. Hot and easy girls. Lots of athletic types.

UMD: Bad. Has fewer hotties than most all of the other MD universities and a higher ratio of guys to girls. On the plus side, you have DC nearby which has tons of bars and clubs. UMD is also obviously the most reputed academic school in the state.

Hopkins: Bad. I'm told they're nerdy and not hot. That said, it's in Baltimore where there are a lot of other ways to meet people/girls.
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Hey thanks for the feedback and yeah it's crazy how much ass there is on these campuses as I said before I will always hunt them down on campuses. But they are not the REASON for going back. I looked at towson and it's mostly a commuter school and Division 1 so harder to make the social aspect work. And I can't do soccer or lacrosse .

Loyola actually looked pretty nice but was mostly a bar school and was dead on the weekends.


By far one of the best Universities in Maryland I looked at was St. Mary's College of Maryland. Great friendly small community of undergrads of around 2 k people. Great beach location and great academics that are structured in a private school way (small class room size) but at a public school cost.

I have not check out Salisbury yet did not put it on my list as I thought it was too big of a school.

I guess I will check out College Park and University of Delaware but can't stand the large class rooms of 500 plus people don't feel that is a good way to learn when you are just a number to the professors .


on my list of colleges to consider applying to and taking a look at:

Depauw University (Indiana)
Sewanee University of the south ( Tenn.)
Union College (new York)
Denison University (Ohio)
Hope College (Michigan)
Ithaca ( New York)
Gettysburg (Penn)
Susquehanna (Penn)
Lynchburg (Virgina )
Utica (new york)
Dickinson (penn)
St. Mary's College of Maryland
Emerson ( mass)
Babson
College of William and mary

Bucknell and colgate but they are division 1

any one have any feedback or input on these schools?
 
Going back this summer to do a one year MSc in Machine Learning, with a view to doing a Phd.

Can't wait. Been 5 years since I finished by bachelors (physics) and I now finally feel like I can face studying again after some real-world experience.
 
I wish that I took more fundamental business related and marketing courses instead of a heavy focus on computer science. everything that i learned in college was no longer compatible with the web 1.0 world at that time and i am a great hands on learner.

on the other hand taking generalized business and marketing courses, that never really gets old and will transfer well into any path you take
 
shawnhag said:
I wish that I took more fundamental business related and marketing courses instead of a heavy focus on computer science. everything that i learned in college was no longer compatible with the web 1.0 world at that time and i am a great hands on learner.

on the other hand taking generalized business and marketing courses, that never really gets old and will transfer well into any path you take
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think I will stay away from computer science maybe poly sci or economics
 
drave said:
i disagreed with your post until i got to the line above... finance/int'l business degree here & while not a total waste, it was not even close to being worth the pricetag.
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Yeah, I'm sure there is some value. But for the $100,000 price tag, you'd be better off finding a successful entrepreneur or two, and getting them to mentor you in return for a donation that size to a cause they're passionate about. If you chose carefully, I reckon that would get you better results.
 
shawnhag said:
I wish that I took more fundamental business related and marketing courses instead of a heavy focus on computer science. everything that i learned in college was no longer compatible with the web 1.0 world at that time and i am a great hands on learner.

on the other hand taking generalized business and marketing courses, that never really gets old and will transfer well into any path you take
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The problem with "business" classes is that you're being taught out of a book; a book which core ideas have been written about many times spanning across many different books, all of which you can read yourself for a fraction of the tuition costs.
 
Staccs said:
The problem with "business" classes is that you're being taught out of a book; a book which core ideas have been written about many times spanning across many different books, all of which you can read yourself for a fraction of the tuition costs.
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Not to mention, you're learning stuff that was the way things are done, not the way things will be done.

You're basically paying for access to facts, and methodologies that don't provide any competitive advantage because millions of other people are learning the same things in similar institutions.
 
I fluked out, went to a special series arts high school and they over-qualified me for college (srs).

Got to skip first year of a three year course (graphic design/advertising) and in truth their second year shit on the walls of fame was about the same as our grade 11's work from highschool so I smashed it in college (even taught the Illustrator class most days because our teacher was so outdated/wack and didn't understand the assignments she gave out lol).

I come to class first day, see all my highschool buddies who just spent a year there and could have easily skipped first year too as they were better than me in many art classes.

Anyway, I think college is an absolute waste if you don't go for something very specialized vs general business et al. College taught me most of all to simply get the fuck up in the morning, and create/maintain a powerful routine no matter what I do. Think critically and creatively, and take responsibility of your own potential/resource pool.

I spent a year between high-school/college finding myself and deciding between art and music, and in that year I hustled as a night club promoter and DJ and did all my own design/marketing, and learned a shitload about marketing before even getting to classes in college so it was a good look for me back then.

Thinking back, if I could find someone already making it big online and pay them or be their bitch for a year for free - You'd learn way more unless you're going to ivy league schools or you have more hustle than anyone in that school... College gives you a chance at learning your own level of discipline or learning that you haz none and will flutter opportunity away whenever possible. I went to college fucking HUNGRY to succeed (lived in ghetto buildings my whole life, wanted to buy a house within 2 years, I made it happen and college was borderline helpful vs a barrier).

Not sure if I'd go back now, no clue what I'd go for, but if I did it would be specialized as fuck either in marketing en mass or top level biz growth. Not to mention that 90% of the time the teachers and tech are outdated even in UNI's (I was learning photoshop 6 at 3:00am at home, while the teacher is teaching us photoshop 4 in class).

Servicing clients also exposes you to tons of business models and problem solving opportunities for your own stuff later. Before I stopped design/media work I was constantly looking at business models that are working and greedy for more - if you can position yourself as a great problem solver for big biz even in small ways, you can learn more than college - fast imo.

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rockstar45177 said:
By far one of the best Universities in Maryland I looked at was St. Mary's College of Maryland. Great friendly small community of undergrads of around 2 k people. Great beach location and great academics that are structured in a private school way (small class room size) but at a public school cost.
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I went to St. Mary's for a year. Amazing when it's warm and you can just be outside all day sailing and stuff (prolly kayaked at least 2 hours a day), but when it's cold there's not much to do because it's in the middle of nowhere. Girls aren't too great either. Very nice people, but 95% are pro government running people's lives.
 
I'm 37, graduated from UC Irvine in 2010. Econ major. I took mostly classes in game theory & entrepreneurship.

Wanted a degree to get into finance, then discovered IM during my last year in college.

Business classes are much more different more real world than I expected. I learned quite a bit being an older student. I didn't have too much trouble blending in, enjoyed socializing, plenty of people in mid to late 20's

I believe the OP is 25 yrs old. Perfect age to go back. Girls will still dig. Do it!!

Study Abroad!!!! Stay outta debt. Use condoms, make lots of friends.

Oh yea, and study abroad!!!!
 
If you're going for business classes, take any and all entrepreneurship classes. Pay special attention to the teachers that have actually started and ran their own businesses. I had 3 professors that were business owners and those three alone taught me WAY more than any wannabe entrepreneurs just reading out of a book.

My recommendation:
Take your other professors advice with a grain of salt. Don't look for them to validate any idea you have, figure out if it works or not for yourself. Starting a business yourself and having to listen to a teacher clash pretty badly.
 
There is the argument that what can be taught in business school, can be learned on the Internet, or watching The Apprentice.

The universities know this, and have made major changes. When I took my entrepreneurship class it was impressive and challenging. Real world implementation and execution. The class was run by 3 professors--a patent attorney, accountant, and entrepreneur. It was a 4.5 hr class that me once a week. Brutal but enlightening.

Don't underestimate the kids coming out of college in the next few years.
 
Crynos said:
I went to St. Mary's for a year. Amazing when it's warm and you can just be outside all day sailing and stuff (prolly kayaked at least 2 hours a day), but when it's cold there's not much to do because it's in the middle of nowhere. Girls aren't too great either. Very nice people, but 95% are pro government running people's lives.
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if you don't mind me asking where did you transfer to? or why did you leave. and yeah that is one bad aspect of the school it is in the middle of no where and I have talked to guys there and they seem to agree with you on that part. I was on the beach this Saturday taking a look at the school and girls were all over the beach sun bathing it was a great sight and I got to mingle with a few at the food court. It was great to have conversations with girls and not here the word like every 20 seconds. I loved going out to the point and having a fire as well.

I will say this about the girls there they tend to be a lot smarter then other places so I can actually have conversations with them. St. mary's is more like a safety school at this point.

ncmedia said:
I fluked out, went to a special series arts high school and they over-qualified me for college (srs).

Got to skip first year of a three year course (graphic design/advertising) and in truth their second year shit on the walls of fame was about the same as our grade 11's work from highschool so I smashed it in college (even taught the Illustrator class most days because our teacher was so outdated/wack and didn't understand the assignments she gave out lol).

I come to class first day, see all my highschool buddies who just spent a year there and could have easily skipped first year too as they were better than me in many art classes.

Anyway, I think college is an absolute waste if you don't go for something very specialized vs general business et al. College taught me most of all to simply get the fuck up in the morning, and create/maintain a powerful routine no matter what I do. Think critically and creatively, and take responsibility of your own potential/resource pool.

I spent a year between high-school/college finding myself and deciding between art and music, and in that year I hustled as a night club promoter and DJ and did all my own design/marketing, and learned a shitload about marketing before even getting to classes in college so it was a good look for me back then.

Thinking back, if I could find someone already making it big online and pay them or be their bitch for a year for free - You'd learn way more unless you're going to ivy league schools or you have more hustle than anyone in that school... College gives you a chance at learning your own level of discipline or learning that you haz none and will flutter opportunity away whenever possible. I went to college fucking HUNGRY to succeed (lived in ghetto buildings my whole life, wanted to buy a house within 2 years, I made it happen and college was borderline helpful vs a barrier).

Not sure if I'd go back now, no clue what I'd go for, but if I did it would be specialized as fuck either in marketing en mass or top level biz growth. Not to mention that 90% of the time the teachers and tech are outdated even in UNI's (I was learning photoshop 6 at 3:00am at home, while the teacher is teaching us photoshop 4 in class).

Servicing clients also exposes you to tons of business models and problem solving opportunities for your own stuff later. Before I stopped design/media work I was constantly looking at business models that are working and greedy for more - if you can position yourself as a great problem solver for big biz even in small ways, you can learn more than college - fast imo.

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amazing story I love your hustling attitude

Gambit said:
If you're going for business classes, take any and all entrepreneurship classes. Pay special attention to the teachers that have actually started and ran their own businesses. I had 3 professors that were business owners and those three alone taught me WAY more than any wannabe entrepreneurs just reading out of a book.

My recommendation:
Take your other professors advice with a grain of salt. Don't look for them to validate any idea you have, figure out if it works or not for yourself. Starting a business yourself and having to listen to a teacher clash pretty badly.
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really good advice I have got to make a point to asking the professors this question and make sure the school I pick has them .


OrionSyndicate said:
There is the argument that what can be taught in business school, can be learned on the Internet, or watching The Apprentice.

The universities know this, and have made major changes. When I took my entrepreneurship class it was impressive and challenging. Real world implementation and execution. The class was run by 3 professors--a patent attorney, accountant, and entrepreneur. It was a 4.5 hr class that me once a week. Brutal but enlightening.

Don't underestimate the kids coming out of college in the next few years.
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again I will find professors that have real world experience that will be a point to ask
 
OrionSyndicate said:
I'm 37, graduated from UC Irvine in 2010. Econ major. I took mostly classes in game theory & entrepreneurship.

Wanted a degree to get into finance, then discovered IM during my last year in college.

Business classes are much more different more real world than I expected. I learned quite a bit being an older student. I didn't have too much trouble blending in, enjoyed socializing, plenty of people in mid to late 20's

I believe the OP is 25 yrs old. Perfect age to go back. Girls will still dig. Do it!!

Study Abroad!!!! Stay outta debt. Use condoms, make lots of friends.

Oh yea, and study abroad!!!!
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nice to hear I am the perfect age I look like I am 19-20 though most people think I am a high school student looking at campuses and I am amazed that I still look younger then most of the juniors and seniors at these schools. LOL

I am grateful that I waited to go back to school until it was something that I wanted to do for my own personal reasons and motivation . And yes will def study abroad at least twice.

will def do something highly specialized probably where I double major and then do grad school maybe IDK yet.
 
rockstar45177 said:
if you don't mind me asking where did you transfer to? or why did you leave. and yeah that is one bad aspect of the school it is in the middle of no where and I have talked to guys there and they seem to agree with you on that part. I was on the beach this Saturday taking a look at the school and girls were all over the beach sun bathing it was a great sight and I got to mingle with a few at the food court. It was great to have conversations with girls and not here the word like every 20 seconds. I loved going out to the point and having a fire as well.

I will say this about the girls there they tend to be a lot smarter then other places so I can actually have conversations with them. St. mary's is more like a safety school at this point.
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Wanted to go to a city, so I went up to Philadelphia. Girls are definitely smart and low maintenance for the most part. Parties at the point are amazing, and the campus-wide Halloween party is an amazing time. If it were always warm, I would have definitely stayed.

Also, I don't know if you'd be living on-campus, but when I attended, the Internet in campus housing sucked hard. It really set me back because it was hard to work like that.
 
I turn to you WF, as I know we have a lot of knowledgeable guys over here (seriously, not being sarcastic lol). I know quite a few of you guys have experience with attending college.

Anyways, I was accepted to UNCCH as a transfer student a few days ago. My ultimate goal is to attend their B school, but if that does not work, I will major in economics and minor in something else. Since I'm a transfer student, I will have to complete about 2.5 years there. And since I'm and out of state student, the cost of attendance is roughly $41,000 per year. UNCCH has offered me the following:

$16,000 grants
$2,800 - Federal Perkings Loan
$3,500 - Federal Direct Subsidized Loan

That leaves roughly $18,000 per year that my parents will have to pay, and then obviously the loans I will have to repay. So my parents will pay roughly $45,000 over that course of 2.5 years. I will also have roughly $16,000 in loans to pay back.

Worth it? Any advice bros?
 
Crynos said:
Wanted to go to a city, so I went up to Philadelphia. Girls are definitely smart and low maintenance for the most part. Parties at the point are amazing, and the campus-wide Halloween party is an amazing time. If it were always warm, I would have definitely stayed.

Also, I don't know if you'd be living on-campus, but when I attended, the Internet in campus housing sucked hard. It really set me back because it was hard to work like that.
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will keep that in mind on campus was really small in a dorm might rent a house near by St. Mary's is just a safety school at this point going to look at some schools up in new york this weekend.
 
For those of you who have been in college, what kind of courses would help further my IM career.

I'm thinking learning coding and programming will help, as will business courses.

Any suggestions? I'm starting first year of University next year.
 
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