Backlink scams on WF?

adman01

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I've lost track of how many links package I have purchased off WF that haven't increased my traffic or help my rankings or ever got the report. Thet did take my money though. Actually I haven't lost track of them! I think this would make a good thread. Has anybody else had a negative experience with any of their packages or am I the only One getting screwed??? :music06:
 


people offering link building for others, instead of ranking their own websites don't offer a good ranking service?

SHOCKING!!!!
 
Most providers suck. But most buyers are retarded. There are good services on BST. But if you don't know how to spot them, and then how to use them, and on what, and when, you are wasting your money.
 
I failed to mention that I have had more good experiences than bad. Im not really unhappy just wiser!
 
Learn to SEO before you try and outsource your work, chief.

It's like giving me a budget to build the new NASA spaceship and me bitching when the contractors I used fuck the whole job up. Of course they fucked the job up because I don't know how to build a fucking spaceship to begin with so how am I going to choose the right contractors to hire?

wat? you don't know how to build a spaceship? lol, dummy.
 
If your on-page blows, and your choice of anchor texts blows, why would you expect some ranking change? Really, all you are doing is giving them all of the details, and paying them to manually press the "go" button. You are setting everything else up. Hard to blame the provider for all of it.
 
I think most buyers are stupid honestly. I dont care to say this even though I sell services on this forum and have for years.

Most people have no clue what they are buying to begin with and fail to even read your post when you offer a service for sale. I know I am sticking my neck out here, but I don't make my nut from my service monies so if people want to stop buying from me after I say this, oh fucking well.

Just in my own sales posts alone ( and the countless others from other members here I have read ) you post shit in your sales thread and countless lazy fucks continue to hound you about shit you already posted about.

Perfect example, I post I dont provide reports in my service and no free reviews and I get countless PM's and posts in my thread about when they will get a report and if I will give out the URLs to my blogs and if they can get a free review since they posted in my thread first. This went on and on in the blog roll and blog post service I had and the free review shit went on an on for my blog commenting service I ran for over a year here even though I ran countless discounts and over provided on a service no one else was offering here for blog commenting.

Then I release the Dirty Sanchez and specifically spell out that I do not give reports ( its too many damn link types I use, Im not spending time to collect the links unless you wanna pay me $300 instead of $159 for the service ). I also spell out very carefully that it is NOT a ranking service, but a service to diversify your anchors if you think you built too many with certain anchors or link types. However, I send out a survey to my customers ( like I do all my services ) and many of them said they moved up in SERPs.

However, the group that said they didnt move up in SERPs from the Dirty Sanchez, told me they would never buy again because it didn't move them up. Even though I made it clear this was not a ranking service ( how will my service move you up in ranks for "blue widgets" when I am building generic anchors, raw url anchors, and LSI anchors for you that dont contain "blue anchors".. plus your prob. buying generic links b/c you got fucked by Google anyways and are already screwed.. Also shit like this takes months to see the periodic movements from most times ) those people made me feel like I didn't provide them a just service because they no longer didn't want to buy for me b/c the service didn't improve their SERP for a certain KW even though I spelled it out up front thats not what this was and they more then likely fucked their site up anyways. I was really going after people with new sites that wanted a good foundation, not people that were penalized or people that thought I was going to rank them with generic anchors.

I know plenty of people that rank sites and sell services here. However, there are far more people buying BST's that have no clue what they are doing compared to the people selling them. I could tell a lot of good fucking stories about how people can't even fill out my WuFoo forms correctly even though they are only 4 fields. Don't even get me started on the amount of people that post the incorrect URL and anchors of their own fucking sites on the forms or those that want to PM/Email me an Excel document of 100k URLs for their order when I only do 3 URLs in the WuFoo and then get upset when I tell them to follow the instructions in the post.
 
I could tell a lot of good fucking stories about how people can't even fill out my WuFoo forms correctly even though they are only 4 fields. Don't even get me started on the amount of people that post the incorrect URL and anchors of their own fucking sites on the forms...

Don't even get me started... Filled out the form but didn't pay. Paid, but didn't fill out the form... Heck, even I've put in the wrong URL when ordering packages. You accept your mistake and move on. No fixing it once the work is rendered complete. Customer service really is a nightmare. I commend all companies and individuals who provide great customer service, because it is very tiresome. People are lazy and don't read anything, and then start emailing and PMing instead of reading the thread or sales image like they should have. Wasting everyone's time and energy.
 
Perfect example, I post I dont provide reports in my service and no free reviews and I get countless PM's and posts in my thread about when they will get a report and if I will give out the URLs to my blogs and if they can get a free review since they posted in my thread first.
You gotta appreciate the irony of this JB.
 
^^ oh trust me i do man, i do.. I even chuckled myself writing it honestly.

Although, I dont think I ever asked for a free review when the BST seller said they weren't offering it though.

lol all around though.
 
people offering link building for others, instead of ranking their own websites don't offer a good ranking service?

I'm so fucking tired of hearing this. It's business-retarded.

If you've invested a ton of money in developing link building software, the best monetization is almost always selling services or software.

It's like saying that a marketing company should just internalize the entire rest of the world and all its industries instead of selling services... Theoretically okay, but realistically retarded.

It's not really a "if you can't do, teach" thing.

Also, penguin was the rebill fallout of SEO - I'd estimate that WickedFire's link building budget has been cut by 80%+. The spend in BST is pathetic right now.
 
^^ this.

Im all about making money. If I can rank my own sites and make money and then make even more with little to no extra time involved licensing or selling the process I use to rank my own sites, then I'm doing it.

Thats like saying Grindstone cant rank sites because he is apart of LL and SGW and SerpIQ. You need to PM that mofo right now and he can break down his ranking process in no time flat. I spoke to him today at length on PM and he is always down to help noobs. Make sure you PM him and if you can, hit him up on Skype too.
 
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