NBA Thread: Lakers get Dwight Howard



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Nash isn't even in the top 10 for FG% or 3-point shooting.

Don't muddle up abstract claims with your damned statistics!!!!

Can't wait to watch this "team" implode into a giant shit ball of egos, snarky back handed comments to the media and missed games from Howard.

Philly is probably the only legit threat to Miami out East now too, they're the real winrar in the deal.
 
Don't muddle up abstract claims with your damned statistics!!!!

lulz, let them have the fantasy.

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He completely changes the game.

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I giant that changed the way that teams attacked the rim against the Jazz (456 in one season alone). Still wouldn't trade for him. Howard blocks shots and will make up for Nash's now piss poor defense one on one as the player he guards make it to the rim. Serge Ibaka can do that for a lot less. Still doesn't make Howard a great center or player. When he can be defensive player of the year and pour in 30 points a game, come and talk to me (His Airness did it a few times).

Grind has this one right; this team has a lot more potential to implode with the addition of Howard.
 
Let's get this straight: On offense, the LAL can trot out 4 first-class offensive players and on D they've got Howard, Artest, Kobe, and a top defensive coach.

The only thing potentially stopping this team from next year's championship would be a Hollywood-enabled Dwight Howard Prima Donna act getting out of control. Then again, he's got leadership to help keep him in check and it's also a contract year for him.

Lakers = easy favorites nonetheless. Haters gonna Hate.
 
The only thing potentially stopping this team from next year's championship

Or maybe the fact that both Nash and Kobe need to dominate the ball to be effective? That should work out well. Or maybe the fact that Kobe won't pass the ball at crunch time even though his effectiveness in such situations is borderline pathetic (28% shooting percentage in playoff crunch time situations)? Or the fact that Laker fans are touting the fact that Antwan Jamison is their 6th man like that's a good thing? LOL

h8ers gonna h8, I fucking loathe the Lakers unlike any other sports franchise. Buying rings will do that to me.

Link for fact checkers: Kobe Bryant vs. crunch time statistics: A debate - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN
 
Or maybe the fact that both Nash and Kobe need to dominate the ball to be effective? That should work out well. Or maybe the fact that Kobe won't pass the ball at crunch time even though his effectiveness in such situations is borderline pathetic (28% shooting percentage in playoff crunch time situations)? Or the fact that Laker fans are touting the fact that Antwan Jamison is their 6th man like that's a good thing? LOL

h8ers gonna h8, I fucking loathe the Lakers unlike any other sports franchise. Buying rings will do that to me.

Link for fact checkers: Kobe Bryant vs. crunch time statistics: A debate - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN

When has Kobe ever played with a top-notch PG? Kobe and Nash talked it out prior to Nash approving the trade so I think they'd be able to work it out. Kobe was effective enough while playing with Shaq dominating the ball back in the day. Lastly, you don't think those crunch time percentages would go up with Howard and Nash deflecting attention?
 
Oh man,

Can't wait to see the heat play the lakers.

FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP.

You'd be fapping blanks. Lakers will kill Miami. Who's going to guard Howard? Who's going to guard Nash? How are Wade and Lebron going to get to the rim? Lol, the only points Miami will score will be in transition.
 
You'd be fapping blanks. Lakers will kill Miami. Who's going to guard Howard? Who's going to guard Nash? How are Wade and Lebron going to get to the rim? Lol, the only points Miami will score will be in transition.

Chill my dude, when did I say miami is going to own the lakers?

This is why I hate some of you kobe/laker fans.

I don't care who wins, the fact that 2 super teams are going to face each other is far more exciting for me.
 
When has Kobe ever played with a top-notch PG?

Are you trying to make a point or ask a legitimate question? No he hasn't and it hasn't mattered because he dominates possession, that's why Shaq got run out of town; not enough ball for two super ego's.

Kobe and Nash talked it out prior to Nash approving the trade so I think they'd be able to work it out.

Talk is cheap. I can see Nash letting go a bit, but not Kobe. Nash dominates possession to make others better, Kobe just dominates possession. The only one who benefits from Nash is Howard, Gasol etc.

Lastly, you don't think those crunch time percentages would go up with Howard and Nash deflecting attention?

Short answer - no. Why you might ask? All three of them and their performances are in direct relation to how much possession they have. Nash needs the ball to create, Howard needs the ball to open it up for others and score himself - Kobe just needs and demands the ball all the time.

Kobe is the cog that doesn't fit and when and if it all goes ass up, Kobe will start pointing fingers telling everyone what is wrong. The difference between this team and the Heat, is that D-wade and Bosh finally fell into being the supporting cast for Lebron. It isn't going to happen in LA because of the way Kobe plays the game. Sure, they may have a great regular season, but when crunch time comes at playoff time, it will simply turn into the Kobe show again because he won't have it any other way.

As it stands right now, Kobe is a bad fit for this team, with this particular roster.
 
Are you trying to make a point or ask a legitimate question? No he hasn't and it hasn't mattered because he dominates possession, that's why Shaq got run out of town; not enough ball for two super ego's.



Talk is cheap. I can see Nash letting go a bit, but not Kobe. Nash dominates possession to make others better, Kobe just dominates possession. The only one who benefits from Nash is Howard, Gasol etc.



Short answer - no. Why you might ask? All three of them and their performances are in direct relation to how much possession they have. Nash needs the ball to create, Howard needs the ball to open it up for others and score himself - Kobe just needs and demands the ball all the time.

Kobe is the cog that doesn't fit and when and if it all goes ass up, Kobe will start pointing fingers telling everyone what is wrong. The difference between this team and the Heat, is that D-wade and Bosh finally fell into being the supporting cast for Lebron. It isn't going to happen in LA because of the way Kobe plays the game. Sure, they may have a great regular season, but when crunch time comes at playoff time, it will simply turn into the Kobe show again because he won't have it any other way.

As it stands right now, Kobe is a bad fit for this team, with this particular roster.

I agree with your main thesis - it's going to depend on whether or not Kobe can play off the ball. Personally, I think he can, at least to a workable extent. Here's a decent read on the subject:

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Chill my dude, when did I say miami is going to own the lakers?

This is why I hate some of you kobe/laker fans.

I don't care who wins, the fact that 2 super teams are going to face each other is far more exciting for me.

Didn't mean to annoy, my bad. Point is, this is a bad matchup for Miami. Matchup nightmares at the two positions they're weakest at (PG, C).
 
MARK EATON MARK EATON MARK EATON

I giant that changed the way that teams attacked the rim against the Jazz (456 in one season alone). Still wouldn't trade for him. Howard blocks shots and will make up for Nash's now piss poor defense one on one as the player he guards make it to the rim. Serge Ibaka can do that for a lot less. Still doesn't make Howard a great center or player. When he can be defensive player of the year and pour in 30 points a game, come and talk to me (His Airness did it a few times).

Bill Russell never averaged more than 19 points a game. Most teams today would love to have Mark Eaton.

Ibaka mostly plays forward and weighs the same as Luke Walton. Howard has 30 pounds of muscle on him.


"I would like to reiterate that a high block rate =/= good defense. Serge Ibaka lead the league in blocks by a large margin, but is one of the league's most overrated defensive players. Ibaka gets bullied one on one, off the dribble or in the post

Tyson Chandler on the other hand was Defensive Player of the Year.. Tyson is a great defensive player because he is extremely agile making rotations, a quality post defender, and doesn't just try to block every single shot"


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Or maybe the fact that both Nash and Kobe need to dominate the ball to be effective?

Kobe might think he needs to, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be more effective with Nash setting him up.

I fucking loathe the Lakers

I'm a Celtics fan, but also Nash is a guy who I would like to see get a ring at this point.

Buying rings

The NBA has a salary cap though. If a small market like Memphis had a baseball team they wouldn't be able to do the equivalent of signing Randolph, Gay, and Marc Gasol to new contracts. Without the cap, a big market team like Boston could have easily signed someone like Gasol or Andrew Bogut, instead of Brandon Bass or whoever.

Miami vs. Oklahoma City was a battle of the 16th and 45th biggest US sports markets.

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Steve Nash is the best shooter in the NBA.

Yes, no, maybe. If someone like Kyle Korver gets the ball outside, people will assume he is going to shoot it and then defend him accordingly. Nash's quickness and passing abilities can make it easier for him to get open shots.
 
Yes, no, maybe. If someone like Kyle Korver gets the ball outside, people will assume he is going to shoot it and then defend him accordingly. Nash's quickness and passing abilities can make it easier for him to get open shots.

nash's been in the league for how long and is undersized still finds a way to the basket. He has extremely high basketball IQ.