The New York Times has always been very anti-Bush/Pro-Obama, so their percentages may be a wee bit off. I wonder how MSNBC and FOX would break it down lol
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The New York Times has always been very anti-Bush/Pro-Obama, so their percentages may be a wee bit off. I wonder how MSNBC and FOX would break it down lol
Yet another misleading graphic from the "false paradigm" crowd. I don't even have time to unpack all the misrepresentations above.
Romney's not for big government. He's not for a federal insurance mandate.
"Lies/broken promises, cronyism, zero accountability, propaganda, and empty rhetoric" are all subjective.
Romney's not for excessive regulation at all.
And saying that somebody is "for torture and war" is absolutely ludicrous.
But that's why the people who make graphics like this are a fringe movement.
As long as the anti-Democrats pout and stay home. That's all they want. If you're not gonna vote for us, don't vote at all.
Familiar with his record in Mass?
What is the difference between a federal mandate and state mandate? Why was his plan good enough for Mass, but not good enough for America?
You're right.
It's painful how ignorant the layman (or self-styled politically aware [sic] citizen) is about law and economics.
He is for both torture and war. He's on the record as being for it.
You guys will rationalize voting for anyone. And the result will be you'll get the America you deserve. And you'll never, ever take responsibility for having bad ideas, or continuing to promote an irrational and illogical paradigm.
And honestly, it makes me laugh because the guys who vote, are the guys who will be sticking around for the collapse.
I don't like to see anyone suffer, but if anyone should suffer, it's people who persist in delusion against all evidence and reason.
I lived in Mass. for 10+ years. If you know anything about the politics and the Democrat machine in that state, you would know that blaming Romney for the regulation there is ridiculous. He's a Massachusetts Republican, a moderate. I don't even like him, but to say that he's for big government and excessive regulation is absurd.
The difference is that Romney is against the federal mandate and Obama is for it. Truth be told, I don't think they'll have the numbers in the Senate to repeal it anyways, but there's an obvious distinction.
Sure. Painful.
Nobody is "for" torture and war. It's an absurd statement on its face. If you said he would not take off the table the military option or hardcore interrogation techniques, that would come off as a semi-reasonable statement. But the "false paradigm" crowd thinks anyone who sets one foot outside America's shores is a bloodthirsty warmonger.
There's not really much I can add here, it's kind of your own internal monologue. Like an old man alone on the beach ranting at the seagulls.
As I've said before, I'm not pro-Romney, I'm anti-Obama. The people like you who say there is zero difference between the two have something fundamentally flawed in their perception. I don't know what it is or where it comes from, but it's weird that someone with such clarity on other issues falls for the "Romney = Obama" meme.
I don't even like a lot of what Romney stands for. I find him a wishy-washy moderate. But I'm also not so blind that I think there's no difference.
It's a waste of time with your crowd because you've all been hammered with the "false paradigm" meme and everything else just flows from there.
The crazy thing is that this time we're dealing with an actual live communist in the White House and you guys STILL can't see a difference. That's scary to me. There aren't games anymore, this guy is really dangerous.
Whatever. Stay home and accomplish nothing by doing nothing except funding your Ron Paul campaign in another 4 years. My theory that for the first time in the U.S.' 200+ year history, there is a communist gang running the executive branch hellbent on taking over the country is easily verifiable, so we will know either way at some point in the future. If Obama leaves in 2012 or 2016, then I'm dead wrong.
Sorry but you can't say "for the first time" especially when you consider who the fuck was running the country for the previous 8 years. GWB campaigned on all these great, small-government ideals and it quickly turned into utter bullshit. Obama is just GWB#2, and Romney is GWB#3. I have absolutely no faith in our political/electoral system, it's all bullshit and it's all rigged. Instead of voting, my time is better served letting those around me know they're wasting their time voting, and these perceived angelic-like winged creatures who've ascended from the heavens are entirely unnecessary.
I lol'd.
Statists running on a "small government" platform is a pretty clever trick.
Yeah, no difference. Elections do matter. Maybe there are a lot of similarities - so what? The fact is that there is a difference between the two. Those of you that stand on "not voting" are, well, not thinking straight.
I know this because I once thought like you. Then I lived through various administrations and will tell you - Elections DO matter. There is no better way to say it. I feel sorry for you if you cannot see the forest through the trees.
@Moxie - As for the video above, of course its once sided. It's marketing and as Marketers we should respect the difference between the two videos. One is much more effective than the other. I appreciated the "marketing" in juxtaposition to what I've seen elsewhere.
Bush was a liberal-republican much like Romney will likely be if elected. Obama is not Bush #2. Obama is all the bad of Bush plus a whole lot more bad.
Who the is saying that the politicians are "angelic saviours"? Not anyone I know nor have heard. Yet that does not negate the difference between the two. You are believing too much of the "crazy" around here.
Were you paying attention to how health care was passed? We might as well not have Congress.
Do you understand the regulatory expansion of the past 4 years?
Do you understand that over the past 4 years the powergrab that has occured? (GM to the Unions screw the bondholders, student loans all Govt now, the mass buyout of mortgages, the primary mortgage of today is also Govt owned, the EPA regulations, the limiting of private lending, Dodd-Frank, etc?)
Yeah - the $3 Trillion hit that Bush got hit with 9 months in was nothing right? What do you think would have happened with just 1 more successful attack? Another $6 Trillion (assumes an amplified effect)? I am no fanboy of Bush, but really, think about it.
Policies do not take time because the market adjusts and anticipates. Don't buy that lie.
Too funny. Have you watched Obama's crony capitalism. Need I explain to you how his policies gave the lending industry etc to the Govt? The over-reach is unbelievable. Read up on the unaccountable CFPB. Think on how those policies are a giveaway to the big banks. How about Solyndra etc?
Yeah, why pay for PBS? What does it do? Planned Parenthood - why should I pay for the murder of your baby?
Unions - do you understand their impact? Why should Unions have so much money for campaigns when their members when polled do not support the politicians to whom their dues go? Public Unions giving campaign donations to their employer - an employer who is not accountable to a profit - Wow, what a sham - no check on the power and benefits.
Can you imagine a private Union being able to elect the Board and executives of a corp and that corp being able to give any pay/benefits package without accountability to profit?
Why is everyone around here not paying attention to the details? Details matter as do elections.
Just because a lot of people participate in a delusion, and take that delusion very seriously, doesn't make the delusion real.
Obama worse than Bush:
1. Fast & Furious
2. Student Loan takeover
3. Dodd-Frank - This is a huge economy killer
4. Abortion - think what you want but being pro-partial birth abortion. Really?
5. Transference of mortgages to Federal - New & Existing --- This is a big deal
6. Health Care Takeover
7. Taxes
8. Oil
9. Gas Prices - Obama said he does not mind high prices. This hurts the economy and the poor the most. What a jerk.
10. Assassination of American Citizens
11. Job Killing regulations - Here are some for 2013
12. Military expenditure
13. Arab Spring
14. Religious Freedom - Did the Catholics sue Bush for their religious freedom?
15. Golf - I mean really. This left used to always criticize Bush for Golfing yet Obama has gone more often.
16. Cronyism to a new level with all of his failed green energy companies.
17. Billions if not trillions funneled to Unions.
18. Advocating that Citizens be renters instead of homeowners. Rather than sell houses to qualified owners he is selling them by the thousands to hedge funds to use as rentals. As with many policies this is to keep people DOWN.
Is that enough for ya?
Elections Matter.
No, it isn't enough. This is a list of things you don't like about Obama, but most of this occurred under Bush, or in a parallel under Bush.
I want to know which of this is actually worse besides golf.
Also, why do you hate the Arab Spring? People are overthrowing their tyrannical governments. Shouldn't you like this?
And, what did Obama do wrong with Military Expenditure? Bush was spending a trillion dollars a year fighting a global war against a tactic (terrorism). Are you mad that Obama hasn't spent as much as Bush, or that he spends too much? Only the latter is morally defensible.
Aaaaaaaand, taxes? You're a statist. How can you possibly complain about taxes? By your rationale, the government should be able to take all of our income to provide absolute security and happiness for us. It's laughable that you're for religious freedom or against taxes. Cognitive Dissonance!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand, why should the government advocate anything with the economy (homeowner or renter)? Are you a communist?
PLEASE LEARN MARKET ECONOMICS BEFORE YOU VOTE.
VOTING IS POINTLESS AND STUPID BUT IF YOU VOTE AND YOU'RE IGNORANT, YOU'RE COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM.
If you do learn market economics, you probably will never vote again because you will realize how farcical and stupid it is. As a Christian, you should already be able to identify the immortality of voting.
VOTING IS POINTLESS AND STUPID BUT IF YOU VOTE AND YOU'RE IGNORANT, YOU'RE COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM.
If you do learn market economics, you probably will never vote again because you will realize how farcical and stupid it is. As a Christian, you should already be able to identify the immortality of voting.
I'm going to make a guess...Their hugely profitable banking business?
Failing that...Aliens.
These seem a little vague and inaccurate at best.
"Billions if not trillions" - how is that a legitimate criticism or accusation, if you are so sure its true, how can you have no idea whether its billions or trillions?
Arab Spring - how is that anything to do with the president of the US? You might as well blame him for the fact that my car broke down last week in Estonia.
8. "Oil".
Yes...oil? and?
....Peanuts!....Earth!...Wind...Fire!
Health care takeover - this is open for discussion but the healthcare system in the US is shit and unfair, for the biggest economy on earth to have people dying because they have no money is shameful...
Its also currently hugely inefficient and wasteful, thanks to greedy insurance companies and those who work with them, at least hes attempting reform, bizarre that so many americans are against it "cuz nazi socialism communism is bad".