Anyone have diabetes?



Diabetics are supposed to watch what they eat because blood sugar spikes cause nerve and tissue damage, not because doing so actually contributes to the reversal of the disease.

Wrong. Blood sugar spikes does not cause nerve and tissue damage. Only prolonged high blood sugar cause that.

Did you know that blood sugar will spike after meal / drinks? Even a candy will cause a spike your blood sugar level.
 
Wrong. Blood sugar spikes does not cause nerve and tissue damage. Only prolonged high blood sugar cause that.

Did you know that blood sugar will spike after meal / drinks? Even a candy will cause a spike your blood sugar level.

It's the same thing. A spike does not last seconds it can last hours. Your blood sugar will be highest 1 hr. after a meal. Depending on how high you spiked it will determine how long it will take to come back down. If it stays over 140 for over 2 hrs. Is when damage to organs, nerves, etc. can start to occur.
 
Used to...

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filet mignon, macaroni cheese & junk food diet
been eating that for awhile. haven't gained weight. have lots of energy, too. No roughage, so the food doesn't linger in your stomach for long and you don't feel bloated.
 
Type 1 here since 10 got most of you beat at something I guess

Despite the nuance or technicalities if most people were fit and ideal body weight Type 2 would be as rare as is once was when people were more fit and closer to ideal weight. GD fatasses.

It pisses me off that in the course of my life time "diabetes" has gone from a rare condition to meaning an "epidemic" of type 2 diabetes. GD fatasses.

Most people, except those 3 outliers over there, would have no risk of type 2 if they would lead healthy lifestyles. The rest of you can pretend your "thyroid problems" are genetic instead of a result of eating poorly. GD fatasses.
 
It's the same thing. A spike does not last seconds it can last hours. Your blood sugar will be highest 1 hr. after a meal. Depending on how high you spiked it will determine how long it will take to come back down. If it stays over 140 for over 2 hrs. Is when damage to organs, nerves, etc. can start to occur.

No, it's not the same. If you go eat a buffet / long lunch / octoberfest, you get higher blood sugar during that period of few hours. It won't damage your organs / nerves.

Damages of end organs / nerves will only be observed for a prolonged period of high blood sugar, not days, not weeks. It is months or years.
 
Hey, I just go weighed yesterday at the doctor's, and I'm only 62kg (136lbs) and 179cm (5'8"), so I'd hardly consider that an obesity problem. I'll admit, about 3 months ago I was probably an extra 10lbs or so though. I don't know how much I've lost, but I've definitely lost some.

Now I just have to get rid of this fatigue somehow, and I'll be good. So definitely no more alcohol, and especially not whiskey and coke. I've started standing infront of the computer instead of sitting, will take up swimming and try to go everyday, as the climate here doesn't really lend itself to outdoor activities.

The food I eat is great, and there's no way anyone can consider it unhealthy. Well, except I tend to forget to eat for a day or three at a time, so will have to watch that. When I do eat though, it's very healthy.

Who knows, time will tell. I do know after 3 months, I'm getting pretty fucken tired of this though. For example, just woke up about 30 mins ago, typed this message, and I'm already done -- going back to bed for a while.
 
No, it's not the same. If you go eat a buffet / long lunch / octoberfest, you get higher blood sugar during that period of few hours. It won't damage your organs / nerves.

Damages of end organs / nerves will only be observed for a prolonged period of high blood sugar, not days, not weeks. It is months or years.

We have comprehensive medical studies that agree that are failry unquestionable on that. Realy if you disaree you have no idea what you are talking about. Controling your blood sugar is always important but its a long term game. Like smoking 1 cigarette in your life wont give you lung cancer, not that it is good for you.
 
No, it's not the same. If you go eat a buffet / long lunch / octoberfest, you get higher blood sugar during that period of few hours. It won't damage your organs / nerves.

Damages of end organs / nerves will only be observed for a prolonged period of high blood sugar, not days, not weeks. It is months or years.

So I guess you disagree with this then?

Avoid Blood Sugar Spikes: Men's Health.com
"If you live large—big meals, lots of beer, little moderation—you may be shortening your life even if your weight is okay. Repeated blood sugar spikes stress the organs that make up the metabolic engine of your body. That takes a toll."

Also yeah if you're saying nothing will happen if you spike now and then I agree but if it happens a lot over the many years of your life then I would think it could have a negative effect on you.
 
Hey, I just go weighed yesterday at the doctor's, and I'm only 62kg (136lbs) and 179cm (5'8"), so I'd hardly consider that an obesity problem. I'll admit, about 3 months ago I was probably an extra 10lbs or so though. I don't know how much I've lost, but I've definitely lost some.

Now I just have to get rid of this fatigue somehow, and I'll be good. So definitely no more alcohol, and especially not whiskey and coke. I've started standing infront of the computer instead of sitting, will take up swimming and try to go everyday, as the climate here doesn't really lend itself to outdoor activities.

The food I eat is great, and there's no way anyone can consider it unhealthy. Well, except I tend to forget to eat for a day or three at a time, so will have to watch that. When I do eat though, it's very healthy.

Who knows, time will tell. I do know after 3 months, I'm getting pretty fucken tired of this though. For example, just woke up about 30 mins ago, typed this message, and I'm already done -- going back to bed for a while.

Can you give me examples of what you eat? Do you eat a lot of rice or bread?
 
Can you give me examples of what you eat? Do you eat a lot of rice or bread?

Basically never eat bread, and maybe a couple slices a month, as it's not a big staple here. I do tend to eat quite a bit of rice I guess.

Larger dinner meals are generally split -- either a salad with some protein (eg. shrimp, chicken caesar, tuna, etc.) or a stir-fry / curry which I'll have rice or noodles with. Only rarely eat Thai food, as most of its not big on veggies, but eat lots of Asian stir-frys.

For example, beef and broccoli with carrots, onions & bell peppers. Chicken stir fry with cashew nuts, snow peas, bell peppers. Pineapple and chicken stir fry with broccoli, califlower, snow peas, etc. Get lots of garlic, ginger root, never use MSG, etc. That's fairly healthy, is it not? The one thing I can think of is I use the cheap soy sauce and cooking oil you get at any corner store, so with switch that out with quality, imported stuff.

The reason I do stir-frys so much is because I'm generally cooking for one these days, so it's alot easier to get a good, healthy meal. With Western food, you have to cook 3 or 4 things to get a balanced meal, whereas with Asian it's all in one pan. Plus saves you from eating shit food like fried egg sandwiches.

I don't know, something's wrong though. Today was first full day of clocking blood sugar. All I've put into my body today was two small cans of Campbells soup, 8 soda crackers, about 4L of water, and a small glass of this multi-vitamin veggie/fruit juice. Blood sugar was anywhere from 113 to 306, with it being 160 last time I checked. Is that normal? Hands and legs are still bugging me, and I'm going down the stairs like an 80 year old -- both feet on one step at a time.
 
Basically never eat bread, and maybe a couple slices a month, as it's not a big staple here. I do tend to eat quite a bit of rice I guess.

Larger dinner meals are generally split -- either a salad with some protein (eg. shrimp, chicken caesar, tuna, etc.) or a stir-fry / curry which I'll have rice or noodles with. Only rarely eat Thai food, as most of its not big on veggies, but eat lots of Asian stir-frys.

For example, beef and broccoli with carrots, onions & bell peppers. Chicken stir fry with cashew nuts, snow peas, bell peppers. Pineapple and chicken stir fry with broccoli, califlower, snow peas, etc. Get lots of garlic, ginger root, never use MSG, etc. That's fairly healthy, is it not? The one thing I can think of is I use the cheap soy sauce and cooking oil you get at any corner store, so with switch that out with quality, imported stuff.

The reason I do stir-frys so much is because I'm generally cooking for one these days, so it's alot easier to get a good, healthy meal. With Western food, you have to cook 3 or 4 things to get a balanced meal, whereas with Asian it's all in one pan. Plus saves you from eating shit food like fried egg sandwiches.

I don't know, something's wrong though. Today was first full day of clocking blood sugar. All I've put into my body today was two small cans of Campbells soup, 8 soda crackers, about 4L of water, and a small glass of this multi-vitamin veggie/fruit juice. Blood sugar was anywhere from 113 to 306, with it being 160 last time I checked. Is that normal? Hands and legs are still bugging me, and I'm going down the stairs like an 80 year old -- both feet on one step at a time.

Meals sound pretty much fine but if it was me I would personally cut out the rice and noodles completely for now except maybe once a week. Those are high in carbs and your body processes it as pure sugar. Once you become more active working out (or swimming) you should have more room to cheat. I would definitely consider rice and noodles a cheat. Also I would recommend to switch to brown rice if you have to eat it but not sure if that's possible for you.

When are you checking your glucose? Should be right at 2 hrs. After a meal. Also when you become more active (exercising) numbers should come down.

Also it doesn't look like you're eating enough or regularly. If you skip meals your glucose can actually go up. I don't remember the exact science of it but something about your liver sending more glucose into your blood when you don't eat. Read this it talks more about it: The Dangers of Skipping Meals for People with Diabetes and 7 Rewards of Eating Regularly. Diabetic Living.
 
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You mentioned fruit juice. Not sure what fruits but fruits have high sugar. They sre high in fructose. Especially orange juice and oranges. I completely cut out oranges and orange juice. I only eat apples from time to time but some diabetics don't even recommend that. Also I'm guessing the crackers were high in carbs, anything with flour in it is going to be high in carbs.

This is what I'm remembering off the top of my head.
 
I have a whole package of that, and it just sits around here. You cook it like rice?
Yeah, just gotta put more water.

Basically for 1 cup of quinoa, use 2 cups of water (sometimes I find just a bit under 2 cups of water works better).
Bring it to boil, then turn the heat down to low and cook it like that for 12-15 mins or so.
 
The reason I do stir-frys so much is because I'm generally cooking for one these days, so it's alot easier to get a good, healthy meal. With Western food, you have to cook 3 or 4 things to get a balanced meal, whereas with Asian it's all in one pan. Plus saves you from eating shit food like fried egg sandwiches.

I don't know, something's wrong though. Today was first full day of clocking blood sugar. All I've put into my body today was two small cans of Campbells soup, 8 soda crackers, about 4L of water, and a small glass of this multi-vitamin veggie/fruit juice. Blood sugar was anywhere from 113 to 306, with it being 160 last time I checked. Is that normal? Hands and legs are still bugging me, and I'm going down the stairs like an 80 year old -- both feet on one step at a time.

Soooo... you been to the doctor yet?

The one thing I can see that sticks out in your diet is potentially lots of salt. Campbell's soup is loaded with salt, so are the crackers and if you're using soy sauce or other stir fry sauces, they too have tons of salt in them.

Honestly man, just get to he doctor's and have a full physical done, with a blood workup checking your pancreas, liver and kidney functions, uric acid levels, get your blood pressure done, etc. etc. No point in us speculating here. Go seek a professional to find out what the problem really is.