Any golfers here?

step 1: roll 18 joints
step 2: buy 18 pack of beer
step 3: spark first joint and open 1st beer after teeing off on hole 1
step 4: for($i=1; $i<=18; $i++) { rinse_and_repeat() ;}

Guaranteed you're hitting teh ball straight by the 3rd or 4th hole.
 


I play twice a week probably... Currently, about 5.5 handicap and we always play from the tips. It's always one or two holes that screw me, but that's why it's such a tough game. You have to stay focused for 4 hours+.

From a business perspective, it is the one game that everyone should be playing. There are a lot of deals that get closed on the course. Of course this doesn't really apply to the neck-beards that work in their moms basement.
 
From a business perspective, it is the one game that everyone should be playing. There are a lot of deals that get closed on the course. Of course this doesn't really apply to the neck-beards that work in their moms basement.

This.

Also, look around in the clubhouse when you're finished playing a decent to upper quality course. Probably some wealth just hanging around. Go shake a few hands.
 
I just started playing golf 4 months ago an loving it. Actually have a tee time today after work with co-workers


I had a pretty lucky start because I took lessons from a local Pro and he molded me like clay as opposed to my friends in the same lessons that were set in their ways.

I got very nice clubs off ebay and craigslist for super cheap (Burner Irons and G15 Driver)
 
I've been playing golf since I was a kid.


I use to get these [ame="http://www.amazon.com/PrideSports-Hollow-Practice-Golf-Balls/dp/B005JTDDAQ/ref=pd_sim_sg_1"]Amazon.com: PrideSports Hollow Practice Golf Balls, Pack of 12: Sports & Outdoors[/ame] and then use a razor knife to cut a small slit in the side.

Then take 1.5 full sized paper towels and JAM it into the ball.

After that, take some 1/2" Masking Tape and wrap it two or 3 times around the ball in line with the cut you made.

Do this with all the balls.

Now when you hit them they will FEEL almost the same as the impact of a real golf ball. They will also FLY THE SAME as a real ball but will only go maybe 50 yards maximum.


FEEL and the SOUND of impact are very important in Golf.

With these little CHEAP and SAFE golf balls you can practice in your yard or at a park. A great way to groove your swing when you can't get to a Driving Range/Practice Tee or Golf Course.


Mike, being new to the game I would suggest you find and buy TWO BOOKS to begin with.

1.) Ben Hogan's Five Lessons: The Modern Fundamentals of Golf
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Five-Lessons-Modern-Fundamentals-Golf/dp/0671612972/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1376003066&sr=1-1&keywords=Ben+Hogan%27s+Five+Lessons%3A+The+Modern+Fundamentals+of+Golf"]Five Lessons: The Modern Fundamentals of Golf: Ben Hogan, Herbert Warren Wind, Anthony Ravielli: 9780671612979: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]


and

2.) Jack Nicklaus: Golf My Way [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Golf-My-Way-Instructional-Classic/dp/0743267125"]Golf My Way: The Instructional Classic, Revised and Updated: Jack Nicklaus, Jim McQueen, Ken Bowden: 9780743267120: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]



The first book will teach you the PROPER Grip, Stance, Posture, Backswing, Downswing, Impact and Follow Through.

The second book will teach you another view on those points but will ADD "The art of Shot Making" like Sand trap shots or hitting from the rough along with putting and how to read greens.

I would suggest reading and practicing the Ben Hogan Book first and then read the Jack Nicklaus book.


With only those two books I played in the JGA Tournaments as a kid and was on my Junior High and High School Golf teams.

I then got on the All Marine Golf Team and competed internationally.

When I got out I turned Professional and played some of the Mini-Tours back in the 1980's.

So, I think they should give you a good foundation/start.

Once you do decide to go play on a golf course (Since you're new to the game.), you should go out in the later afternoons. There will be MUCH less hassle about slower play at this time of day at most courses.


I would also HIGHLY recommend that you learn the game "From the Hole back to the tee."

In other words, practice your PUTTING and CHIPPING about 80% of your practice time.

Chipping is a "Miniature" full swing and will teach you the proper timing and movement for the longer swing of say the driver.

Most new Golfers want to HAMMER the Driver a million miles and focus on it more than any other club in the bag. Don't make that mistake.



Anywho, you've now gotten into one of the most addictive, time consuming, frustrating, and WONDERFUL activities man ever devised.


I'll leave this with a couple of my favorite adages:


From my old Doormat: "A Golfer and a Normal Person Live here."

From a Plaque my Grandfather gave me: "I Only Play Golf on Days that end in "Y"."



P.S. One FINAL NOTE!!

Be CERTAIN to get one of these https://www.usga.org/PublicationStore/PubStoreProductDetails.aspx?id=21474843679 and learn it.

Here's a PDF version: http://www.usga.org/uploadedfiles/usgahome/rules/completerogbook.pdf


 
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Question: Equipment - can fitted clubs make that big of a difference in your game? Also, high quality brands vs. cheapie? Worth it, or no?

I'm short, with small hands. 5'8" and wear a men's small glove. I believe that a small part of my game could be improved with better fitted clubs.
 
Tailor made would always be preferable but it depends how seriously you want to take it. Will you get time to practice? Going out all the time? Joining a club? If not, the Wilson clubs should suffice. I have a similar Wilson set I bought from ebay. Took a gamble the length, weight and feel were going to be okay and luckily it paid off. They suit my level and frequency of playing.
 
Tailor made would always be preferable but it depends how seriously you want to take it.

Get some real irons like I did from Miura Golf Inc. a few years ago, that off the shelf stuff sucks.

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Question: Equipment - can fitted clubs make that big of a difference in your game? Also, high quality brands vs. cheapie? Worth it, or no?

Nooooo... well, unless you're competing in the PGA. Don't turn into a retard like one of my uncles, and end up pissing away $5000/year in clubs. :)
 
Question: Equipment - can fitted clubs make that big of a difference in your game? Also, high quality brands vs. cheapie? Worth it, or no?

I'm short, with small hands. 5'8" and wear a men's small glove. I believe that a small part of my game could be improved with better fitted clubs.

Jack Nicklaus was tall with SMALL hands. (He has an actual size outline of his hands in his book so you can see. He talks about it.)

Your next set of Irons should be FORGED Stainless Steel irons. (I'd stick with STEEL SHAFTS in the irons. Graphite in the Woods and Hybrids.) Taylormade, Ping, Callaway, Mizuno, and Hogan irons would be good to choose from.

Also, when it comes time to get a custom DRIVER you will not only want to concern yourself with the FLEX of the shaft, but you'll want a LOW TORQUE shaft as well.

But all this should NOT concern you for at least another year. Don't go getting ahead of yourself here.

While I'm thinking about it. The Noodle golf balls should be FINE for now. No sense in getting Titleist balls at $60 a dozen. I can Spin the Noodle as well as the Titleists and the Noodles are only about 6 to 8 yards shorter off the tee for me.


Ok, you just bought a pretty decent set of clubs for a n00b to the game.

They should serve you well for at least your first year of playing just as they are.

DO NOT mess with getting FITTED clubs until you can CONSISTENTLY make solid contact with the ball and have developed a REGULAR ball flight.

I.E....Consistent Fade or Draw or Straight ball flight.

After you can consistently shoot/score UNDER 100 on a regulation par 72 Golf course you at that time look into getting fitted for clubs.

NOT BEFORE hitting the benchmarks I outlined above.


I'm only 5' 8" tall but do have pretty large hands. I wear an XL glove and it's TIGHT.

I use 1 inch OVER standard length clubs and my Driver is 2.5" longer than standard.

My Driver shaft is one of V. J. Singh's personal shafts that is an XX-Stiff.

The last time I played golf was 2 years ago and my average CARRY distance with the driver was 255 to 265 yards.

I have a VERY aggressive transition from the top of my backswing to my downswing and this is why "I" need the XX-Stiff shaft for my driver. (285 CPM. It's an Matrix Ozik TP-7x.)


In golf you have basically two types of swings, The HITTER (Like me and Ben Hogan.) and the SWINGER. (Like Sam Snead and Freddy Couples.)

In time you'll find which you naturally gravitate towards.

It's not your overall height, but your WRIST to GROUND measurement when standing up straight with your arms hanging naturally that we determine what length clubs you should be using.

But for you beginning, those standard clubs will be just fine. Don't be afraid to grip DOWN on the club if it feels too long for some shots on WEIRD lies.


When it IS time for you to get fitted clubs be sure to get the proper FLEX shaft for YOUR swing and then have the shafts SPINE ALIGNED for each club in your bag. (With the exception of your Putter.)

Speaking of the putter, once you've figured out whether you are a Straight Back & Straight Through or an Open the Gate-Close the Gate (Inside to Inside of your intended line.) you can then get the PROPERLY BALANCED Putter for your stroke/style of putting.

Straight Back & Through strokes should have what they call a FACE BALANCED putter. If you balance the putter shaft in the crook of your index finger the FACE of the putter should UP towards the sky and almost parallel with the ground. Example: Zebra Mallet putters are Face Balanced.

Inside to Inside strokes do better with a TOE HEAVY putter. When balanced in the crook of your finger the Toe of the Putter should be pointing down at least 110* towards the ground. Example: Acushnet Bullseye BRASS head putters are EXTREMELY toe heavy.


There is a lot of controversy in the Amateur Golf community over the Spine Aligned club shafts. But ALL Professional Golfers KNOW that it will tighten up the groupings of your clubs by a minimum of 20%. It just eliminates one more variable in your ball striking. But its of NO CONCERN if you cannot consistently strike the ball solid.

Having the Spine aligned TOWARDS the target or towards the ball will give you more accuracy at the cost of a few yards distance.

Having it AWAY from the target or away from the ball will give you more distance at the cost of accuracy.


Back to your original question. NO you do NOT need to concern yourself with getting FITTED for clubs right now.


I know your excited right now and want give yourself the best chance to BOTH enjoy the game and hit the ball well. Getting fitted at this time could actually do more HARM than good since you do not have a Grooved Swing yet.

Getting fitted NOW could actually FORCE you into a swing pattern that is NOT natural for you. So, use your new clubs to learn the proper Grip, Stance, Backswing, Transition Movement, Downswing, IMPACT, and Follow Through.

Get your swing grooved, learn to score by THINKING your way around the course and then when you are breaking 100 regularly you see about getting Fitted clubs.


If you get those books and work through them with PRACTICE you progress well.

Then if you ever feel that you would like to get lessons from a Professional, Talk to them about 1 Plane and 2 Plane swings, Hitters vs. Swingers, and about whether they teach a Method or tailor their teachings to the Golfer's NATURAL Swing and "Body Type".

Too many Pro's go straight out of the PGA of America's Teaching Book. I call it Cookie Cutter Teaching.

A natural Hitter will NOT do well with a teacher who teaches you to Swing the club and not HIT the ball. A natural SWINGER will not do well with a teacher who teaches to HIT the ball.

Same with One Plane and Two Plane swings. You CANNOT...I repeat....YOU CANNOT "MIX" 1 Plane techniques with 2 Plane techniques and have a RELIABLY REPEATING Swing that is also Powerful!!!

So, do your best to find an Instructor who will OBSERVE your Natural abilities and then TAILOR his teachings to YOUR Natural Style and Body Type/Abilities.

The general rule is Short Golfers (Under 5' 10") will naturally have a 1 plane swing. (Like Ben Hogan.) Tall Golfers (5' 10" and above.) will naturally have a 2 plane swing. (Like Jack Nicklaus.)

I myself have swung both ways over the years and each has it's strengths and weaknesses for "me".

1 Plane for me has more POWER easier to repeat. But tougher to hit the ball online if my timing is off or I miss place the ball position in my stance.

2 Plane is more accurate for me since you're swinging down the line longer than you do with a one plane swing which goes MORE inside to inside and therefore has the club head moving along the target line for a shorter period of time. So, if my timing is off or the ball position isn't exactly right, the ball will stay on target better and distance will be the price of a mistake and not the LINE OF FLIGHT.


When I have a Flat Belly I tend to Buck the trend and swing with a 2 plane swing. When I'm FAT like now, I use a 1 Plane swing. Lulz


Anywho, just enjoy your NEW CLUBS for at least a year I'd say.


Fairways & Greens to you Mike and may your BALLS always be HIT SOLIDLY with AUTHORITY!!!

LOL


P.S. When you do finally get to the course to play, for the first 10 or 20 rounds DO NOT KEEP SCORE!! Also, MOVE the ball (Even in the rough or sand trap or around a water hazard.) so that you have a GOOD LIE.

There will be PLENTY of time LATER after you have a consistent swing to learn to deal with Divots, Roots, Buried in the sand, and hitting from THICK rough.

To try and "Deal" with those lies now before your swing is developed will actually STUNT your progress.

Also, it's OK to pick your ball up if you are taking too many strokes & time to get to the green or you are losing too many balls on a hole. Just get up to the green and then maybe chip up and then putt out.

If you are put into a group of people you do not know, explain to them that you are NEW to golf and that are NOT keeping score and might be picking up from time to time. They should BOTH understand and appreciate your thoughtfulness & courtesy.

JUST BE PATIENT and if you get Ben's book I'll Echo what HE says in it, "There is NO reason that the average Weekend Golfer cannot BREAK 80 on a regular consistent basis!!"

BTW, I have a set of Wilson's just like pictured here except mine are right handed and these are left handed. I bought them back in 1983 and still use them to this day. This CRAP of changing clubs every year is STUPID!! Once your swing is established that is. LOL

Definitely the same with putters and Drivers. Once you find one that works, KEEP IT!!!

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Peace Out!!
 
Get some real irons like I did from Miura Golf Inc. a few years ago, that off the shelf stuff sucks.

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Wilson Di7s with graphite shafts FTW. I've snapped 2 steel shafts already and don't want a hat trick. There's some pretty decent off the rack sets out there without having to go all Ryan Eagle poser. Just see what's right for you.
That graphite shaft, that curvy head. My sexy clubs are totally fappable.
 
Haven't played all year, fucking sucks. Still wouldget around in 85-90 from the wings, depending on how quick my short game comes back. Yeah, I'm a self taught hack. Don't go that route, get some fucking lessons before you ingrain hard to lose habits.
 
I haven't been out in probably close to a year. I think its about time I do. They have some nice courses here. I usually end up about 15 strokes over on a 18 hole course and don't play more than a couple times a year. I'm not very good but its fun :)
 
Heading to the course in about 5 minutes...I try to go at least a few times a week but it's hard because all my friends around here work "real jobs" and I hate golfing alone.

I love golf, even if you're not great it's a good way to get outside and take your mind off work and other things.
 
Question: Equipment - can fitted clubs make that big of a difference in your game? Also, high quality brands vs. cheapie? Worth it, or no?

I'm short, with small hands. 5'8" and wear a men's small glove. I believe that a small part of my game could be improved with better fitted clubs.

Yes, getting fitted for the right shafts, lie angles for your swing will make a difference. I won't buy a set of irons or any metal woods without getting fitted. I'm lucky to play every Sunday with some friends who work at Titleist, so that takes care of a lot of my clubs/fitting worries.

For beginners, you probably won't notice much difference between a lower priced starter set vs. a $1000 brand name set or irons. Don't waste the money on them yet. Get a decent quality set you can play with and then blow more money on the good stuff as you improve.
 
I love golf. Thought I was going to dedicate my life to it for a while...but realized I was 10-15 years too late. Still love to play though.

If I had a tip for anyone learning is to hit down on the ball like you are trying to hit the ball into the ground/underground. Do not try and help it get airborne.
Keep the angle of your shaft in front of your club head. As seen here in the last image.

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Biggest mistake I see people make is they think they have to "get under it, or lift it up." The above technique will allow you to compress the ball and get way more distance and make the game much easier.

Golf is a game of opposites.

Like Midas Touch said...these 2 books are pretty well the standard on learning to play.

1.) Ben Hogan's Five Lessons: The Modern Fundamentals of Golf

Five Lessons: The Modern Fundamentals of Golf: Ben Hogan, Herbert Warren Wind, Anthony Ravielli: 9780671612979: Amazon.com: Books
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and

2.) Jack Nicklaus: Golf My Way
Golf My Way: The Instructional Classic, Revised and Updated: Jack Nicklaus, Jim McQueen, Ken Bowden: 9780743267120: Amazon.com: Books
Amazon
 
I'm certainly not good enough (consistent enough) to spend a fortune on drivers and irons. However, my short game is surprisingly okay. I'm most comfortable with wedges and putters.

But, I hate the putter that came with the aforementioned Wilson set. It sucks. Horrible.

I use it, because, I don't have a choice, but I hate it. It just feels sloppy.

So, I went over to Golf Galaxy and tried every putter they have. I have a very straight follow through, and a mallet putter feels the best to me.

After trying all the Odyssey, Taylor Made, blades, ansers, mallets, etc. I found one that is perfect for me. Ping Scottsdale Grayhawk.

Using that putter, I could sink almost anything. Far more often and accurately than any other putter in the store.

I spent about an hour just whacking balls across their little putting green. Was a lot of fun actually. :D

What surprised me was how perfect it felt. When I picked up the putter, it just felt like any other, but when I started putting with it... night and day.

Ended up not buying it though. I was on the Harley, and couldn't figure out how to carry it without dropping it between there and my house. Guess I'll go back later in the car.
 
I'm certainly not good enough (consistent enough) to spend a fortune on drivers and irons. However, my short game is surprisingly okay. I'm most comfortable with wedges and putters.

But, I hate the putter that came with the aforementioned Wilson set. It sucks. Horrible.

I use it, because, I don't have a choice, but I hate it. It just feels sloppy.

So, I went over to Golf Galaxy and tried every putter they have. I have a very straight follow through, and a mallet putter feels the best to me.

After trying all the Odyssey, Taylor Made, blades, ansers, mallets, etc. I found one that is perfect for me. Ping Scottsdale Grayhawk.

Using that putter, I could sink almost anything. Far more often and accurately than any other putter in the store.

I spent about an hour just whacking balls across their little putting green. Was a lot of fun actually. :D

What surprised me was how perfect it felt. When I picked up the putter, it just felt like any other, but when I started putting with it... night and day.

Ended up not buying it though. I was on the Harley, and couldn't figure out how to carry it without dropping it between there and my house. Guess I'll go back later in the car.

That's a great putter. I love mallet putters too and I almost bought that one earlier this year when it came out. I decided to just stick with my GoLo select - Scotty Cameron. Been putting pretty well with it lately.
 
Mike, it would be not only be perfectly fine to go back and get that putter it's highly advisable.


Putters and Drivers need to LOOK and FEEL right to you.

These are clubs that start and finish most of the holes you will play.

Putting is definitely a FEEL thing and you need a putter that looks right to you as line up the putt.

Same with the driver in time.

From what you've posted so far, provided you get to practice enough, you are most likely going to progress faster than most new golfers.


Glad to hear you found a Putter you like.


For "me" my putter is both my favorite and most important club in the bag.

I had used the same putter for over 25 years. Unfortunately it was a Ping Answer knock off I had gotten as a kid and the face of it had actually become a little concave over time (Not from abuse or temper tantrums, just 1,000's of putts and it having a cheap Aluminum head.) and no longer conformed to regulations for tournament play. I had to replace it.

Took me 3 months of using different putters until I finally settled on one I liked.

I've had it for 9 years now.

P.S. I would suggest that you make good use of the Putter's Headcover. I don't like having distracting DINGS along the top site line of mine. Nor do I like the idea of a DING in the face of the putter that might deflect the ball at impact.