Gen Y Article About Why Their Lives Suck
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The article never said Gen-Y is lazy. I don't know where you're getting this from.
You sound very fatalistic.
In a way I agree. Grumpy old people are going to be grumpy. That will not change.
The Boomers can't be blamed for living in a world of abundance and also can't be blamed for being manipulated by evil socialists and feminists.
But they can be blamed for not admitting their faults.
And that is the lesson to learn from the boomers. That people are easily manipulated and like to dream themselves away in utopian worlds.
Therefore, it is up to Generation X AND Generation Y to take over power when the boomers retire and build a world which won't be deceived by utopian equalitarian nonsense.
They aren't but you have tiers just like Canada and the states. Some schools are better than others.
I'll inbox it to you.
The lazy part was a response to the Calacanis video Gambit posted and then the followup he asked after my original response.
As to the article, no they never came out and called Gen Y lazy, but entitled, when used in the context it's being used in is nothing but a euphemism for lazy. For instance, the oh this job is beneath them garbage. There are PhD's working in retail, even PhD's who have those degrees in marketable fields. The generalization of an entire generation as feeling a job is beneath them is absurd.
And the graphic of Lucy's career path expectations is pretty spot on for saying the generation is lazy when compared to the career path graphics of previous generations. It overtly states that previous generations "knew the value of hard work" and that Lucy's generation thinks the world should be handed to them on a platter. Maybe Lucy does feel that way, but the majority of her generation does not. Also, there are plenty of Lucy's in every generation.
Again, I'll go back to what happens when painting with broad strokes.
That's where I get the "lazy" from. It's implied pretty damn clearly.
I don't have anything to add to the X vs Y debate, but on a side note: Not trying to toot my own horn or anything like that, but that article pretty much follows this to a T: http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/172850-thoughts-linkbaiting-how-troll-like-pro.html
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I'm Generation X and they used to say this about us. We were the people who dropped out, wore the grungiest clothes imaginable and were glued to our computers when we weren't gathering in fields for raves. The press used to write shock horror stories about whether the addiction to computers and gaming meant the end of society. We probably had less social interaction than the baby boomers (who liked to party) and Gen Y (who are glued to their cellphones and social media).
We were also terrified about Aids (this was before HIV drugs were invented) so we were super cautious and protective. This is the real reason Gen X has only a fraction of the STD's than the baby boomers and Gen Y have.
We were also really broke - credit cards weren't as easy to come by back then and in any case no self-respecting bank manager would sign up someone frm the slacker generation wearing grunge. I remember walking three miles from my university digs to the centre of town because I was saving bus-fare (which was all of 50p).
It turned out OK in the end - the obsession with computers spawned a whole bunch of new industries. It wasn't a waste of time by lazy slackers after all.
I'm sure Generation Y will find their niche in the same way too.
Lol @ Calcanis and mahalo.
It has nothing to do with fate. It has everything to do with millions of years of human behavior, which has largely remained unchanged in regards to this.
Humans have proven time and time again that one cohort will place blame for their problems on an opposing cohort. We wouldn't be having this conversation if the boomers hadn't lost all of their retirement savings when the market crashed. Now they look around and know that they are going to be reliant on their children for life in retirement. But because their children aren't doing well (partly because they won't fucking retire), they are filled with fear.
That leads them to worry about their future security, and instead of placing the blame where it belongs, which is squarely on their shoulders for their personal financial problems, they place it on the generation that will need to care for them in their old age.
Why? Because very few people want to take the blame for spilling the milk, even if they were the only one in the room when the glass tipped over.
Well they can and they can't. They may not have created a world of excess, but they participated in and perpetuated it. None of us, except the youngest among the world today is clear of blame in this regard. As to the political stuff, I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.
Couldn't agree more, but this can be said about every generation.
If it took the boomers before people realized this, a lot of people have been missing the boat for millions of years.
I generally agree, but the fact of the matter is, there is no retirement in sight for the vast majority of boomers. Extended lifespans, crumbling retirement accounts, no pensions, and a social security system that is failing means there are two options for them.
Work until they die or be supported by their children. Most will work until they die, and by then they'll be in their 80's, Gen X will be in their 60's, and Gen Y will be in their 40's. None of that is conducive to things getting better anytime soon.
The reality of the situation is things are fairly fucked until the boomers kick the bucket. There are simply too many of them within a single generation that are reaching old age at the same time. That's going to cause social safety nets to collapse and force them to work well into when they should be retired. There are only so many jobs to go around and there are less every day because workers are more efficient than ever and automation is taking over many unskilled jobs.
Things are going to get worse before they get better and it isn't anyone's fault, it's everyone's fault.
It has nothing to do with fate. It has everything to do with millions of years of human behavior, which has largely remained unchanged in regards to this.
Humans have proven time and time again that one cohort will place blame for their problems on an opposing cohort. We wouldn't be having this conversation if the boomers hadn't lost all of their retirement savings when the market crashed. Now they look around and know that they are going to be reliant on their children for life in retirement. But because their children aren't doing well (partly because they won't fucking retire), they are filled with fear.
That leads them to worry about their future security, and instead of placing the blame where it belongs, which is squarely on their shoulders for their personal financial problems, they place it on the generation that will need to care for them in their old age.
Why? Because very few people want to take the blame for spilling the milk, even if they were the only one in the room when the glass tipped over.
Well they can and they can't. They may not have created a world of excess, but they participated in and perpetuated it. None of us, except the youngest among the world today is clear of blame in this regard. As to the political stuff, I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.
Couldn't agree more, but this can be said about every generation.
If it took the boomers before people realized this, a lot of people have been missing the boat for millions of years.
I generally agree, but the fact of the matter is, there is no retirement in sight for the vast majority of boomers. Extended lifespans, crumbling retirement accounts, no pensions, and a social security system that is failing means there are two options for them.
Work until they die or be supported by their children. Most will work until they die, and by then they'll be in their 80's, Gen X will be in their 60's, and Gen Y will be in their 40's. None of that is conducive to things getting better anytime soon.
The reality of the situation is things are fairly fucked until the boomers kick the bucket. There are simply too many of them within a single generation that are reaching old age at the same time. That's going to cause social safety nets to collapse and force them to work well into when they should be retired. There are only so many jobs to go around and there are less every day because workers are more efficient than ever and automation is taking over many unskilled jobs.
Things are going to get worse before they get better and it isn't anyone's fault, it's everyone's fault.
Ok, yeah, it's not a ultra-terrible one, but it is one that has to do a lot of advertising, if you know what I mean.
Yeah. 21, 27 and 100 are all much better and 100 is a cakewalk to get into. She could have stayed.
We even have a saying about 100:
If you can hold a fork you can go to ______
I think it goes without saying that there's been a gradual decline in character in the U.S. over the past 100+ years. Peeps are less intelligent, hardworking, and resourceful than in generations past. Where are before it was only the elderly crowd pointing this out, now it's 30 somethings pointing it out. Not to mention there's less parenting going on nowadays too, and a decline in Christian-based morality.
In the U.S. they're been doing their damndest to eliminate competition from the education system. Also there's a higher % than before on public assistance (unemployment, food stamps, etc). We'll see how the new generation on a whole turns out.
Just take a look at old-school baseball players from 60-100 years ago. Those guys were society's heroes and were playing a game for a living. Browse their photographs and most of them are looking harder and hungrier than fuck (even the stars) despite being on top of the world.
I don't think it's safe to assume this at all. In fact, I'd say that you're wildly misguided.
I'm going go to go ahead and say that the general character of a person in the U.S. is vastly improved today as opposed to much of the past 100+ years. The 1920's were filled with debauchery. For much of those years it was not uncommon for someone to be lynched, beaten or otherwise harmed simply because someone had a different skin color. Are we any better today? Marginally, but certainly not any worse. In this country we are safer from crime today than at any point in history. We're also better at solving crimes when they do happen.
You're talking about measuring morals. Who's to say you're morals are any more correct than someone else's. There are only two morals I live by. Don't take someone's life (admittedly there are instances when this is a grey area) and don't steal shit that isn't mine. That's it. Everything else is just noise that's been ruled bad by our overlords.
As to people being less intelligent. Again you're falling into some fantasy world of nostalgia. A person of average intelligence today is more equipped to make it the world than at any point in history. People have more education than ever before and easier access to it, whether that be formal education or self-education. We know considerably more about the world around us and "things" than at any point in history. By any measurable definition of general intelligence, the average person today would blow the average person of 100 years ago away. You're looking at outliers, the best and the brightest and the dregs of society. Those tell us nothing of a population as a whole. The only reason those mythical "big brained" people of yore seem smarter than the people of today is because history has built them up as such. Give it a hundred years and the best and brightest of today will make their current day intellectuals feel feeble minded until history has had time to find and judge them.
As to hardworking and resourceful, the American worker is more productive and works longer hours than at nearly any time in the past 100 years. The type of work is different, and in most cases significantly less physically demanding. But if that's how you're comparing the two, you're doing it wrong. Apples to oranges. The type of work we do is not the same, so the physical and mental demands are much less. Working conditions today are also considerably safer that at any point in history, so no you don't see as many people broken down physically because of their jobs.
30-somethings are only pointing it out because they live in a shitty economy. Like I said before, this is the same cycle that has repeated itself for millions of years. When times are tough we look for someone to blame. Since we are all infallible, the problems must be being caused by those younger than us.
There's less parenting going on these days because both parents have to work in order to raise their family. So are people less hardworking or more hardworking than before? Because to me more parents working (and many working two jobs) would make me think that people were more hardworking. But again, there have always been shitty parents, good parents, and average parents. Ask your grandmother or mother, I'm sure they can tell you all about the shitty parents in the neighborhood from when they were raising you or your parents.
And the decline of Christianity? Get the fuck out of here. Christianity has done more to tear this country apart than it has ever done to pull it together. But if we're going to go there, the Christian majority is has been louder and more in your face during the past decade than they have been at any point in my life and in the time since prohibition. More Christianity or "insert preferred religion" is not the answer to our problems.
I'll say it one more time. This is entirely about perception. Times are tough. People are pissed and frustrated. They need someone to blame who isn't them or their friends. Simple. As. That.
Grain of salt and all that shit, but here's my take on the whole dealio...
Every time you say "I just want to give my kids the things/opportunities/insert-freebie-here I never had as a child" you are royally fucking them and setting them up to FAIL.
Teach them instead to EARN their privileges, and be certain they understand that you eventually Get What You Pay For.
That's where every generation since WWI has fucked the pooch and that's what has created this incredible sense of entitlement and emo bitchery we see in most (admittedly Western) youth today.
As far as having to work two jobs, or both parents working, fuck- it's because you have to support all the deadweight. Got news: The word "Allowance" has NEVER been uttered in my household, and my 17yo son is quite proud of that.
Fuckin' Packet Data, Mom & Dad.
Every time you say "I just want to give my kids the things/opportunities/insert-freebie-here I never had as a child" you are royally fucking them and setting them up to FAIL.
Teach them instead to EARN their privileges, and be certain they understand that you eventually Get What You Pay For.
That's where every generation since WWI has fucked the pooch and that's what has created this incredible sense of entitlement and emo bitchery we see in most (admittedly Western) youth today.
As far as having to work two jobs, or both parents working, fuck- it's because you have to support all the deadweight. Got news: The word "Allowance" has NEVER been uttered in my household, and my 17yo son is quite proud of that.
Fuckin' Packet Data, Mom & Dad.