Is PC gaming dead yet?

avatar33 said:
It's just too expensive to game on a PC. You need high-end shit, and keep upgrading it. Plus you always have the occasional bugs that come up and mess up your experience.
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I am still gaming on a PC with a motherboard from 2006 and a graphics card from 2008 (GTX 280). I can run even the new stuff in medium to high detail at 1080p. I'm doing a hardware refresh when the CV1 comes out. It's not the late 90s / early 00s anymore bro. Your hardware lasts longer. I really wanted to buy new hardware earlier too but I couldn't justify it due to the great performance I had in my games. Now I am just holding out for the Oculus Rift before I build my new monster rig.

Like people also said. You can get a decent gaming rig going for under 500 dollars if your budget is truly tight, and steam sales are much cheaper than buying games for a stupid underpowered console.

Also what makes you think you'll have to upgrade your PC constantly if there's the underpowered game consoles that act as a lowest common denominator? These days games are designed to be quite scalable depending on your hardware specs.

There's of course a lot of PC exclusive stuff out there too now, but they usually don't push systems except maybe Star Citizen. We're very much in a PC gaming renaissance right now.
 


If you want better graphics and performance than consoles, and much cheaper games, go PC. If you don't care about graphics as much, get the consoles. I just upgraded to an R9 290 gpu (Costs about the same as an Xbox1 or a PS4) and I'm catching up on games from 3-4 years ago on max settings and visually it still shits all over the PS4 or Xbox one.

And yeah, the whole idea that you have to constantly upgrade your PC is retarded and I don't know where people get that from. Consoles stick to the same hardware for their lifespan of 6-8 years and it's not like they're bleeding-edge when they're released either, so a high-end PC is going to be better than the recently released consoles on day 1, and day 2000... You don't HAVE to upgrade it just because better hardware comes out but it's sure nice to have that option.
 
I'm about to order one of these: (on right, laptop on left is 17")


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Has a desktop motherboard and cpu, i7 or xeon with 2 slots for video cards and 3x hard drives. Easy to upgrade the cpu and gpus so it can last for a number of years. Start at $2100.

These are the future for controllers, they're supposed to start shipping next month. I ordered a pair because I use them with the oculus rift and they're the best for it (was using wiimotes). They allegedly work with existing games already....
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You can get just about any controller you like from console for pc, or an adapter.

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Honestly, PC games suck now, so if I were you I'd wait a bit.

PC gaming is growing through its awkward teenage stage. It'll evolve eventually, but for now, it's too all over the place.

If you played counterstrike, do you remember the custom game modes from counter strike?

Whoever decides to make a full game from those modes will become instant millionaires (just like League of Legends did with the DotA custom mod from warcraft 3). They're incredibly fun and addicting because not only are the game modes imbued with incredible variety, but they're multiplayer games (and multiplayer games are always more fun than singleplayer games because of the social element)

Someone can make a killing off making full-scale games based on the game modes in counter strike such as prison break, bunny hopping maps, zombie mod, surfing, superhero mod, and my fucking personal favorite, awp l337 sk337. (whoever capitalizes on these goldmine ideas I'm giving out, remember me when your game rakes in millions of sales ;))

My intuition tells me that while PCs are stagnating right now, they'll grow wildly popular on a scale of exponential growth in the future.

People love video games. I don't know why, but play is just a part of human nature. PCs will overtake consoles in popularity because they are simply better than consoles in every way.

However, people won't switch to PC gaming now because the barrier to entry to PC gaming is too high, so when someone finds a way to lower that barrier, then he or she will make a killing while changing an entire generation. People only use consoles because they're easier to use and understand than PCs (PCs are intimidating to the average joe), so lower that barrier, and you'll become an instant millionaire.
 
noZaw said:
Honestly, PC games suck now, so if I were you I'd wait a bit.

PC gaming is growing through its awkward teenage stage. It'll evolve eventually, but for now, it's too all over the place.
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PC gaming doesn't suck, and thanks to Steam it has a significant market share. Though I do think OP should wait until the Oculus Rift comes out if he can help it.
 
PC gaming is way to go bro, don't listen those console peasants.

Next thing someone will say that human eye can only see 30 fps.

Check out some mods like Battle Royal for Arma3 or DayZ Overpoch/Epoch for Arma 2.
 
With exception to the last 2 years, I gamed on PC nearly every day with FPS's.. the last of which being BF3. The graphics are amazing and I can still play the latest BF game on high settings (custom pc build 3+ years ago). If you care about control (keyboards and their many more keys than controllers) and graphics, go with PC. Or in other words, if you want to maximize your experience with a game, go PC.
 
I realize this is a loaded question. Is there a favorite gpu the 'cool kids' are using for the FPS? I'm an AMD guy for life. I just remember the last time I tried this, I bought a $200 graphics card and it couldn't play the one game I wanted it to. This is 10 years ago and I know things have improved, but I'd like to avoid that if possible
 
dmnEPC said:
I realize this is a loaded question. Is there a favorite gpu the 'cool kids' are using for the FPS? I'm an AMD guy for life. I just remember the last time I tried this, I bought a $200 graphics card and it couldn't play the one game I wanted it to. This is 10 years ago and I know things have improved, but I'd like to avoid that if possible
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Check out /r/buildapc at reddit. Give them your budget, tell them what you want to use pc for and someone will make you the configuration.

Also check out sidebar, there are few websites that can help you with picking parts, show you what is best buy in your budget and stuff like that.
 
noZaw said:
Honestly, PC games suck now, so if I were you I'd wait a bit.

PC gaming is growing through its awkward teenage stage. It'll evolve eventually, but for now, it's too all over the place.
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You're talking out your ass dude.

PC gaming is in it's renaissance right now, with shit tons of crowd funded projects coming down the pipe from independent studios and some amazing titles being put out by the big dogs.

Graphics have never been better, with Nvidia just releasing their 900 series of cards that are super low wattage at twice the performance of their predecessors, save for the Titan cards.

4K is coming on strong with tons of high performance 4K gaming monitors that are reasonably priced. Not to mention all kinds of other innovative hardware being developed and released.

PC gaming competitions have never been more popular with huge audiences, sponsorships and cash prizes.

Along with the points others have made above.

So yeah, I'd say PC gaming has never been more popular. You simply can't get the same level of performance, fidelity and competition on a console. It's nowhere near the same.

Why hold off? What would be the point of waiting? That's like saying wait for the next mobile phone model to be released, because it's going to be the best. Get stuck in, build a rig. Add to it or upgrade it as necessary.

I think I've posted this a half dozen times before, but this is my current rig, now about 2 years old. I use a Qpad mechanical keyboard and a Corsair mouse. In the coming weeks I'll be upgrading it.

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dmnEPC said:
I realize this is a loaded question. Is there a favorite gpu the 'cool kids' are using for the FPS? I'm an AMD guy for life. I just remember the last time I tried this, I bought a $200 graphics card and it couldn't play the one game I wanted it to. This is 10 years ago and I know things have improved, but I'd like to avoid that if possible
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Depends on whether you plan to run it at stock clock or overclock it.


EDIT:: didn't realize you said amd for life heh, ignore this...

(Nvidia related) The 780 (now a couple years old) is the high end of the 700 gtx series, and at stock the newer 880 is only a hair better. They both use the exact same chipset, but the biggest difference is the 880 is locked from overclocking while the 780 is not and can be tweaked to blow the shit out of the 880 (it's clock is much lower at stock but has a lot of room to raise before heat is a problem). The new 900 series is a big step up from the 800s and 700's, if you're buying a computer and have a choice and it's not ridiculously expensive, get the 980 or 970.

Also, on a budget the gtx 870 is a lot cheaper than the 880 and decent enough.


Then you have dual cards in SLI but it's likely overkill, and not double the performance but more like 60-70%, and some programs may not recognize the second card.

There's a website called GPUBoss that you can type in 2 different cards and it lays out every aspect of each for comparison. Then cross reference with gpu benchmark scores for a generic idea on what's a good value... PassMark Software - Video Card Benchmarks - High End Video Cards


A team of overclockers from HKEPC -- Mad222, Stephen Yeong, John Lam, and Mr. Wong -- have set a world record for overclocking the GTX 780 graphics card. Using liquid nitrogen, they have managed to get the card to outperform even the dual-GPU Radeon HD 7990, using the single-chip GTX 780.
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Fatbat said:
You're talking out your ass dude.

Graphics have never been better, with Nvidia just releasing their 900 series of cards that are super low wattage at twice the performance of their predecessors, save for the Titan cards.

4K is coming on strong with tons of high performance 4K gaming monitors that are reasonably priced. Not to mention all kinds of other innovative hardware being developed and released.

So yeah, I'd say PC gaming has never been more popular. You simply can't get the same level of performance, fidelity and competition on a console. It's nowhere near the same.

Why hold off? What would be the point of waiting? That's like saying wait for the next mobile phone model to be released, because it's going to be the best. Get stuck in, build a rig. Add to it or upgrade it as necessary.

I think I've posted this a half dozen times before, but this is my current rig, now about 2 years old. I use a Qpad mechanical keyboard and a Corsair mouse. In the coming weeks I'll be upgrading it.

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Question since you're into pcs, I uninstalled the oculus rift runtime and as it finished my screen went to 1024x768 resolution and no option to change it.

-I uninstalled the drivers and re-installed 3x different nvidia drivers for the card (gtx 650) starting with the newest, then second newest, then 3rd. I installed nvidia's auto driver tool and it would install the driver but nothing would work upon reboot.

-In device manager, looking at the details for the driver, it had an error saying the driver in the registry was damaged, uninstalling the driver did not help, and the intel HD 4000 had the SAME problem! (error quoted below)

-I removed the card, moved to integrated intel HD 4000 and it had the same problem in device manager... Instead of saying "This device is working properly" in the description.

Error was:
Windows cannot start this hardware device because its configuration information (in the registry) is incomplete or damaged. (Code 19)
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Then when I uninstalled the driver for the integrated gpu, after rebooting it flashes the asus logo and bios info then goes black and nothing. I added the gtx 650 back in and still black. Windows tried to fix some problems but couldn't. (windows 8)

I pulled the drives and started backing them up but it was 8+ hours to transfer so my boss went out and bought me a new computer cause of a tight deadline.....right now I'm installing all my shit back onto this new computer so I don'y lose time on monday.....

Wondering if I have to format or if there's some way to fix the registry? I found another person with the same problem but no word from oculus and they haven't answered my support email..... https://developer.oculusvr.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=15051

So fucked.....


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Fatbat said:
^^ It's worth pointing out that the 800 series of Nvidia GPUs only appeared in laptops. You can't buy a 800 series for a desktop computer. It's either the 700 series or the 900 series. I would definitely go with the 900 series as the 980 GTX only requires 165w, which a 500w power supply can sufficiently provide.
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Arg I've been looking at laptops, didn't realize 800's were only m series....
 
^^ It's worth pointing out that the 800 series of Nvidia GPUs only appeared in laptops. You can't buy a 800 series for a desktop computer. It's either the 700 series or the 900 series. I would definitely go with the 900 series as the 980 GTX only requires 165w, which a 500w power supply can sufficiently provide.
 
Fatbat said:
Heh, that's a tough one. I've never used an Oculus Rift before. You could try just removing the offending registry entry with regedit. Otherwise keep trolling their forums and customer support until you get an answer.
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Ugh. For the most part it's simply a monitor...it connects via hdmi+usb and shows up with your monitors in the resolution settings window. You have to switch it to portrait mode (it's simply a mobile screen inside) and select "extend desktop to this device", and it's good. For various game engines they give you a camera setup with 2 cameras positioned side by side, doubling the rendering costs. But the 3d effect is awesome. The resolution on the dk2 is about like holding your face up to an old crt monitor, but still much better than the first.

They just demo'd a 4k resolution version at their convention in LA a week ago, which they claim you cannot see any pixels, and it's smaller, so it's definitely progressing and several other companies are making different versions so it'll get much cheaper and better over the next 5 years.
 
If you want a project.

Mame cabinet:

Get a PC load it up with every oldskool retro arcadegame and console release + emulator. known to man.
Install it in an arcade cabinet.


Key components.

SLG3000 - adds scan lines to your LCD monitor. Essential for an authentic experience.
HYPERSPIN - front end.
Trawl some torrent sites and get video game artwork and intro videos.
You'll also need to know how to shell the OS.

I spent a good few months putting one of these babies together. No finer pleasure in the world than firing it up with a couple of friends and kicking the crap out of each other on street fighter 2 turbo or a Mugen.
 
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