The WickedFire Atomic Drama Bomb

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Jon

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I know a lot of members here egg on me about being sensitive or a drama queen, but it is my baby and seeing it get wounded does hurt me, online and offline. I'm trying my best to seperate myself from WickedFire by treating it more like a business and not something close to me. Its been a tough road, but I'm getting better, I promise.

I also want to say sorry for deleting Nicky's threads/posts when he claimed I was censoring him. I was. Again, I brought my personal feelings of it into something that should have been purely business. It was uncalled for and I shouldn't have acted the way I did. That doesn't go to say that he was totally right either, but if he comes to terms with it and wants to say something about it, by all means, its up to him, not me. Without warning today I decided I was fed up with the drama, so I re-instated Nicky back to being a moderator. I know he likes WickedFire a lot, and I know WF likes him. He's a great moderator as well, and I'd much rather bite the bullet, swallow my pride for a change, and apologize because its the right thing to do and the mature thing to do.

We recently settled with ClickBooth in our lawsuit (see this thread: http://www.wickedfire.com/industry-news/40514-cb-wf-settlement.html ).

Some of the major issues that we settled on were to remove some pretty famous threads here where I was definitely leading the lynch mob in trying to settle the score with ClickBooth. All of those threads have been deleted as per our settlement agreement.

What pains me most is not to see those particular threads die, but any threads that have the core values and opinions of a community, so I want YOU guys and girls, the members and contributors here to try your hardest and use WickedFire as a last resort if you feel it necessary to post about an injustice in the affiliate marketing industry. If you truly cannot settle the score by any other means, then fine, that's what we're here for. But please make an effort to try first.

People have been pretty reluctant to post on WickedFire as new members, and they bitch about it a lot at conferences because they want to contribute but are afraid of being reamed out for it. Well, to help you guys understand why the members do this is because we are all frustrated. Frustrated with people coming around asking for advice without ever having tried it or learned from their mistakes. If you have actually tried something yourself, failed time and time again and need help, chances are people here will warm up to you a lot quicker. Because we are a core brotherhood if you will of people who hate whiners and guys coming here with their hand out looking for free hand me outs. Maybe if you took the initiative and tried first, failed and then asked we wouldn't treat you like shit? Hmm.. what a concept!

Another reason we are so harsh with new members can be best compared to a fraternity hazing new pledges. As a new member here, you are bound to be poked and prodded, but thats our way of testing you to see if you really do have the caliber membership to stick around here and become one of us. If you go home and cry to mommy, we know right away you're not worthy. Plus a little hazing every now and then is just good fun. Its part of our more twisted sense of humor I suppose. That's just how we roll guys, so either take it or leave it and go elsewhere.

I love this forum. I love the cliques its created at conferences. I love the huge number of different personalities its brought out. I love hearing how much WickedFire has helped someone learn when other forums taught them nothing but failure. I love the funny shit you guys post or the photoshopped threads that grows into epic threads. I love the private jokes that we know of that no one else in the industry does. I love being the guy at the helm through good times and bad no matter how much I hate it sometimes, deep down, I truly love it. I love WickedFire. There, I said it finally. Sue me. (no, please don't for a while at least).

- Jon
 


I had someone in mind that looks even closer to being you than Mike. I was all down for another clone setup on Clickbooth but I guess it just wouldnt be as fun this time around. On the flip, swallowing pride is a hard thing to do and putting it out there in public takes some guts. Probably feels good to get the CB shit behind you even though you probably got off on fighting it a bit. Anyway, well said.
 
You deleted my post saying you would do absolutely zero damage to clickbooth and now I can't link to it to make fun of you.

"Nothing will happen from this. Will link to this post in 1 year."

Keep up the good work.
 
Hey does this mean I can sue Shady and WickedFire for turning me into "The Pedobear Guy"?
 
I'll get the WF tattoo in full color on the top of my hand if you give me a way to make a few G's a month on my own, that actually works. (I fail a lot)

No joke :P
hahaha

I love this place

...........Seriously though. o_o
 
Hey does this mean I can sue Shady and WickedFire for turning me into "The Pedobear Guy"?

It's not worth your time, he'll just settle out of court and pay you off in skittles (which are becoming more valuable than the dollar these days).

Jon, that's the best tasting piece of humble pie I've ever had a bite of. Well done, and so very right on every point. However, this is way too much emotion for me to handle. I can feel my sperm dying one by one ... off to haze a noob.
 
WickedFire is a gem. I feel it's one the few forums where most of the members 'get it'. Now that I think about it, the amount I know now compared to what I knew before I joined WF is stupendous, and I (at the very least) credit WF for putting me on the right path and helping me understand the industry, how things work, and how to approach it a hell of a lot better than I would do through another community or on my own.
 
The someone in the head came home. Welcome. This almost makes you a new guy again. Remember to not ask any retarded questions.
 
Wow Jon, that was the most humble post ever, and good move on re-instating Cakes, I sure as hell missed 'Ban Hammer Mother Fucka!'.

I also understand the whole settlement issue, and in all reality it's the correct move as much as I think we all love seeing someone or some network getting thrown under the bus.

And to all the noobies out there looking in through the window, GO FUCK YOUR SELFS! If we haven't explained why we are mean to you once, we have done it 1000 times.

And Jon you should sticky this at least for a little bit.
 
^Ooh - congrats on 2k posts - yummies?

I think ChrisS deserves a badge to moderate skittles related material.

And...Great post Jon!
 
awesome thread.

PS: I like this forum cuz it's full of hustlers and not retards like those from warriorforum
 
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