EXPELLED -How Schools Are Hiding Real Science.

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It's an aspect of science that has no practical applications. Therefore, useless.

Remember we're talking about evolution as the cause of human origin here, not the natural process of evolution (which can be observed).
Uhh, I don't want to get up in the retarded never ending flame war that has made its way from thread to thread here on WF. But how could you possibly believe that human origin has no practical application?
 


Can either of you name one practical application of saying humans evolved? I'm talking something specific (e=mc^2 resulted in nuclear power, etc), not something vague.
 
Enlighten me. You're lumping all religious people into one category.

I know plenty of religious people, and I can make a list of things they want to do too:
  • Live in peace
  • Make a living
  • Have a family
  • Enjoy life
Maybe, just maybe you're referring to the 0.1% who want to dictate the way everybody should live. Maybe you haven't ever actually met a religious person, but not everybody is like that.

EDIT: And maybe, judging by the vehemence of your post, you're just another angry Internet atheist. I suggest you actually spend some time around "religious freaks" before jumping to conclusions.

Nicely said. My mom and grandma are "religious freaks" to an extent.

I can break the entire thing down with pure logic.

They have absolutely nothing in life. They are on the poorest end of poverty, they are both handicapped from being hit by a drunk driver 20 years ago, they have horrible health, and they have made it through a good chunk of their lives just to come out with absolutely nothing now. They even share a car and home.

That being said, they turn to god. And it keeps them hoping... It may not actually change anything for them, but it is what keeps them pushing through the day, and it helps lift some of the stresses of life from their shoulders, which in their vulnerable state, could crush them.

They do "go on" about God and everything from time to time, but as annoying as it can get, the truth about it is, they are trying to help.

Me: "Im fucking broke, I can't pay my bills, my friends are dying and in prison"

Mom and Grandma: "Just give your life to god. Let him handle this stuff for you, ask him to help you and make things better"

At the time, it pisses me off... How the fuck is God going to pay my bills?

But then I realize the truth to it all... They are telling me to let it go, not worry about it, and by asking God to take care of it, I can relax a little bit and make more clear and strategic decisions and choices in life.

It really does all make sense.

It isn't about having a "being" intervene. It's about hope, and faith in your own life and decisions. Don't stress about it so much, keep your head clear and held high, and don't hate everyone around you.

That's my .02
 
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There are different types of evolution, Mrs Genius. Micro and Macro evolution. Yes I do see Micro evolution exists. We see this from the many thousands of Dog breeds today. But have you noticed they never seem to turn into a cats or horses. They always seem to stays dogs.
All I'm saying is someone had to put Code into the DNA. Believe me I got brain washed in school just like you. But then I started asking questions. It just didn't make since to me. Its funny how the missing link was never found, funny how the food chain doesn't work if the chain is missing a link, its also funny how our brains think, experience love, jealousy, greed, and how we humans have a free mind unlike the animal kingdom.

[SIZE=-1]According to Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, the definition of science is "knowledge attained through study or practice," or "knowledge covering general truths of the operation of general laws, esp. as obtained and tested through scientific method [and] concerned with the physical world." Nothing about Evolution there.[/SIZE]

You don't have to lecture me on evolution. Micro and macro evolution is just a term used by creationists and means nothing to scientists. The difference between the two is only time. If you accept "micro"evolution you also accept "macro"evolution.

Dogs don't turn into cats or horses because that's not how evolution works. Besides, if a dog would "turn" into a something similar to a cat it would take millions of years which is why you have never seen a dog "turn" into a cat.

The missing link is also part of the propaganda used by creationists that has no factual support.

And you are dead wrong. That definition is what evolution is about. Facts.
 
But then I realize the truth to it all... They are telling me to let it go, not worry about it, and by asking God to take care of it, I can relax a little bit and make more clear and strategic decisions and choices in life.

Lying to yourself to feel better solves nothing. It's like taking drugs.. you feel good for a while.. but in the end it will most likely fuck you up.

Can either of you name one practical application of saying humans evolved? I'm talking something specific (e=mc^2 resulted in nuclear power, etc), not something vague.

Since i'm a lazy fuck.. and you are too it seams.. i will just link to a text that explains it. I'm tired of being a keybord warrior for today. CA215: Practical uses of evolution.

I don't know if you think the origin of man is some kind of isolated incident? It's tied together with the rest of the theory. Antibiotics is the best example of a direct result of the understanding of evolution. It ties together everything about biology.
 
WOW. Pat J. You are a lost soul.
Darwinists are searching for the missing link. Funny how they find thousands of Dinosaur bones. But not even once found a caveman. There is no evidence you've been brain washed.
How can you say Micro and Macro cant exist without the other. You're just making statements. Back it up with facts.

Science existed before evolution, so therefore evolution is not science. Isac Newton was a christian scientist. What did he discover that effects us? He actually said his work was inspired by his Belief in GOD. Lets discredit everything he did because he was a Christian cuk. Like their doing in Universities and Schools all around the country right now. Dont you think thats putting a halt to the progression of science.
 
Since i'm a lazy fuck.. and you are too it seams.. i will just link to a text that explains it. I'm tired of being a keybord warrior for today. CA215: Practical uses of evolution.

I don't know if you think the origin of man is some kind of isolated incident? It's tied together with the rest of the theory. Antibiotics is the best example of a direct result of the understanding of evolution. It ties together everything about biology.

Again, you just provided an example of practical evolution from an observable standpoint. You're talking about evolution in general. I'm talking about evolution from the standpoint of the origin of man.

Saying that man evolved has cured no diseases, invented no new technology, and has done nothing but cause a lot of arguments.

Evolution from a genetics perspective has resulted in more efficient crops, yes, but that's not what we're talking about here.
 
WOW. Pat J. You are a lost soul.
Darwinists are searching for the missing link. Funny how they find thousands of Dinosaur bones. But not even once found a caveman. There is no evidence you've been brain washed.
How can you say Micro and Macro cant exist without the other. You're just making statements. Back it up with facts.

Science existed before evolution, so therefore evolution is not science. Isac Newton was a christian scientist. What did he discover that effects us? He actually said his work was inspired by his Belief in GOD. Lets discredit everything he did because he was a Christian cuk. Like their doing in Universities and Schools all around the country right now. Dont you think thats putting a halt to the progression of science.

1: I have no "soul".
2: "Darwinists" means a lot of things. You mean scientists who study evolution. And no, they are not looking for some "missing link". That's still just propaganda by creationists.
3: They have never found a caveman? Are you for real? How can someone be this misinformed? Every year scientists find dozens of human or humanlike skeletons dated several thousands or millions of years old.
4: Macroevolution is microevolution over a period of time. You were the one claiming that evolution can be split up.. YOU should back it up with facts.
5: That evolution isn't science because science existed before the discovery of evolution must be the most retarded thing i have ever heard.
6: Bullshit. No one is saying that the facts and theories that isaac newton discovered should be ignored because he was a christian. Haha, where do you get this from? It's hilarious.

Again, you just provided an example of practical evolution from an observable standpoint. You're talking about evolution in general. I'm talking about evolution from the standpoint of the origin of man.

Saying that man evolved has cured no diseases, invented no new technology, and has done nothing but cause a lot of arguments.

Evolution from a genetics perspective has resulted in more efficient crops, yes, but that's not what we're talking about here.

The genetics perspective has everything to do with the origin of man. There is no part about evolution that has nothing to do with any other part of it. It's also irrelevant, because creationists wants to ban everything that has to do with evolution and replace it with intelligent design. Which is unacceptable.
 
You're missing some implied points you need to think about first.

1)Show me the missing link Google it, and show me a skeleton that's not of a monkey or a modern human.

2)How are christian scientist being treated today. Imagine if Isac Newton was born today.

3)You dont understand what micro evolution is. Dont even try to argue with me.

And thats how we step away from the simple cell argument. Which has the answer no one is willing to admit.
 
You're missing some implied points you need to think about first.

1)Show me the missing link Google it, and show me a skeleton that's not of a monkey or a modern human.

2)How are christian scientist being treated today. Imagine if Isac Newton was born today.

3)You dont understand what micro evolution is. Dont even try to argue with me.

And thats how we step away from the simple cell argument. Which has the answer no one is willing to admit.

1: THERE IS NO MISSING LINK. THERE IS NOTHING TO SHOW. It is a concept made up by creationists, for creationists.

2: That depends on the scientist. If he or she does not mix his or her religious beliefs with facts then he or she is not treated in any special way.

3: ROFL!! YOU don't understand what evolution is AT ALL. You have provided no evidence that falsifies anything... as usual when you're talking to creationists. Go read a book.
 
Darwin's theory 101 of how humans become. The missing link is in the middle. Actually there is a couple of them. How are the creationist Making up the missing link, when its Darwin's theory. I hope you're not the first one on the chart there.
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You're missing some implied points you need to think about first.

1)Show me the missing link Google it, and show me a skeleton that's not of a monkey or a modern human.

2)How are christian scientist being treated today. Imagine if Isac Newton was born today.

3)You dont understand what micro evolution is. Dont even try to argue with me.

And thats how we step away from the simple cell argument. Which has the answer no one is willing to admit.

Can you tie your own shoelaces?.
 
Darwin's theory 101 of how humans become. The missing link is in the middle. Actually there is a couple of them. How are the creationist Making up the missing link, when its Darwin's theory. I hope you're not the first one on the chart there.

Seriously, go educate yourself. :D Dozens of new species and several thousands of skeletons have been found after the creation of that chart, which also is just a simplified version of the evolution tree.

Darwin lived over 100 years ago and his theory has developed so far it's not really his theory anymore. What do you expect? Us to find every single skeleton of every single lifeform that has ever lived on this planet just like that? New species are discovered all the time. All supporting evolution.
 
And NO straight answer. I want the missing link of human. (why it cant be produced is a mystery) Just admit Darwin's theory has more holes then a napkin.

and Tortuous you need to learn some class, when you try to put people down. To teenage like.
 
And NO straight answer. I want the missing link of human. (why it cant be produced is a mystery) Just admit Darwin's theory has more holes then a napkin.

and Tortuous you need to learn some class, when you try to put people down. To teenage like.

I'll learn some class when you learn some science.
 
And NO straight answer. I want the missing link of human. (why it cant be produced is a mystery) Just admit Darwin's theory has more holes then a napkin.

and Tortuous you need to learn some class, when you try to put people down. To teenage like.

No straight answer exist becuase like i said, the "missing link" is based on misconceptions.
 
Thats the problem for you. I actually did learn it. You on the other hand are a sheep, look deep to understand and question you will not. Me coming from a communist nation were Darwin was basically the corner stone of our nations schools and beliefs. Kind of gives me some incite. See you automatically discredit what I said above, even know I put lots holes in Darwin's theory.(which you choose to ignore maybe unconsciously) But thats the way you're conditioned to think. I didnt even say anything about the bible or religion. (you brought that up) I just proposed another idea. The idea is that intelligent design; made possible and programed our complex DNA to function. Heck it could have been brought here by other life forms(Nobel Prize winners Francis Cricks Theory) He was an atheist who discovered the structure of DNA and won a Nobel price. After he realized the complexity, he come up with a theory the life got here on a rock or a space ship.
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Obituary: Francis Crick
 
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