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Hpwandrew said:
Have any evidence that "we" (humans? america? russia? whos we?) did, Vaccines do work, and 9/11 was not an inside job? Or at least some sort of data that we can look over to help our decisions lean towards what you believe? Please supply some information to help us make an informed decision about whats really going on.

Im guessing there are a lot of things you believe that are far from true and you have no idea thats the case.

Hey, Just a guess!
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We is America in 1969 you fucking ignorant prick, and check out the Lunar laser ranging at the McDonald Observatory for proof we landed on the moon.

It's amazing that people believe this shit, they love to jump on any 'conspiracy' bandwagon because they think it's 'cool'. Take any official point of view and oppose it, whoopiefuckingdo.
 


I'm going to check this out just because of that Einstein post...
@BlueeJammm - if you don't like something someone posts, why not ignore it?

Just a thought....
 
BluuueJammm said:
We is America in 1969 you fucking ignorant prick, and check out the Lunar laser ranging at the McDonald Observatory for proof we landed on the moon.

It's amazing that people believe this shit, they love to jump on any 'conspiracy' bandwagon because they think it's 'cool'. Take any official point of view and oppose it, whoopiefuckingdo.
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Im sorry the way you communicated your view point was a little unclear. You're located in england but consider yourself an american?

There is nothing "cool" about thinking outside of the information provided off the bat, its just...intelligent.

Its amazing that you believe the first handful of garbage thats given to you just because YOU believe its true.

Whats an "official point of view" and whats so wrong with opposing it?

Whenever a debater resorts to vulgar insults to back his point of view it usually means they have no clue what they are talking about.

Someday you'll understand.
 
BluuueJammm said:
Because if no one opposes things like this then they eventually become accepted.
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Well then post your opposing evidence please?

and lets examine this conspiracy theorist title...

Definition-

con·spir·a·cy (kn-spîr-s)
n. pl. con·spir·a·cies
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
2. A group of conspirators.
3. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design: a conspiracy of wind and tide that devastated coastal areas.

Anyone that is a conspiracy theorist is someone who thinks two or more people might have commited a crime? like a judge, detective or anyone else set out to find evidence of people joining together to accomplish something illegal?
 
Hpwandrew said:
Whenever a debater resorts to vulgar insults to back his point of view it usually means they have no clue what they are talking about. Someday you'll understand.
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^^^Quoted for truth

Just let BluuueJammm keep his eyes closed, it's quite obvious he has not done any of his own research into this stuff.

Unfortunately it's very hard to wake up ignorant people up, trust me i'm trying and it aint easy.

Why don't you eatch the video bluuue and then come back with an opinion instead of voicing shit you know nothing about?
 
In regards to landing on the moon . . .

Hpwandrew said:
Have any evidence that "we" (humans? america? russia? whos we?) did
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Landing on the moon did happen. Why do you think otherwise? I hate to hear about these idiot conspiracy theories about not landing on the moon. The following may not be "evidence" but this is an issue I feel a close connection to:

  • I met Alan Shepherd and talked with him in person about his experiences as an astronaut
  • My wife met Wally Schirra and talked with him at a corporate dinner where he was the guest speaker
  • When I was the host of a call-in program on public radio in Florida we interviewed administrators from NASA
  • Yes, Apollo 13 is one of my favorite movies
What purpose does it serve to say the United States did not land on the moon? Tell us more about your primary and secondary research methods to backup your points.
 
I'm not quite sure how a thread about 7/7 got derailed into whether or not we landed on the moon? Oh wait some idiot tried to lump them together that's why.

Because if no one opposes things like this then they eventually become accepted.
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And if you do not dispute the "official storys" ... I mean "official fables" ... they too will become accepted as truth.

Some people are afraid of what they will find when they go through the rabbit hole. Probably more than anything they don't want to admit that the government is possible of doing something like 9/11 or 7/7 especially if they know someone in law enforcement, fire fighters, emts, military, ect...

It's OK, ignorance is bliss and I don't blame you.
 
about the landing on the moon stuff, i think humans went to the moon, but i dont think that we know everything... i think there might have been some "studio footage", there are alot of people who say that nasa filters everything that the public sees, they edit stuff alot, so we dont see things... like UFOs...

My roomate is very intense on this stuff, and well, im a bit skeptic but apparently, the reason why we didnt go back to the moon is because we were told not to go back... or there would be consequences...

And about the whole conspiracy thing... history repeats itself, there has been tons of fables, myths propaganda created by governments , i say chances are that there are some going on right now that some are aware of and some more that we arent aware of... These are method of control of the population... we are sheeps, governments are sheperds, but unlike 2000 years ago the government has gained in experience, their new "dogs" are breeded by science, technology ... no matter what we have the military has better... how many satelites are there over earth watching everything... were a bunch of slaves...

bah... i hate thinking about this stuff... i was very into finding the truth aswell but, so many things to read so many documentaries and its crazy the shit that goes on in this world...

anyways im gonna stop rambling now, as someone said, dont start going too deep into this stuff as you will stop making money ;)
 
awesometbn said:
In regards to landing on the moon . . .



Landing on the moon did happen. Why do you think otherwise? I hate to hear about these idiot conspiracy theories about not landing on the moon. The following may not be "evidence" but this is an issue I feel a close connection to:

  • I met Alan Shepherd and talked with him in person about his experiences as an astronaut
  • My wife met Wally Schirra and talked with him at a corporate dinner where he was the guest speaker
  • When I was the host of a call-in program on public radio in Florida we interviewed administrators from NASA
  • Yes, Apollo 13 is one of my favorite movies
What purpose does it serve to say the United States did not land on the moon? Tell us more about your primary and secondary research methods to backup your points.
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One of my best friends committed murder. I asked him about it and he said he didnt do it and continues to claim he didnt do it. Who do I believe?

Im not saying that america DIDNT go to the moon. Im just saying just because nasa and everyone that works with/for them said they did doesnt mean they really did.

Just because the majority believes one thing it doesnt automatically rule out the minorities beliefs.
 
BluuueJammm said:
Take any official point of view and oppose it, whoopiefuckingdo.
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The official view means jack. Just because the majority believe it is so does not mean it is true.

“An error does not become truth by reason of
multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error
because nobody will see it”
~ Mahatma Gandhi
 
BluuueJammm said:
It also doesn't mean that it isn't true.
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No it doesn't yet it can't be accepted as the truth by basing it as the majority official point of view. It therefore follows that one must do their research and get informed to see the clear picture. It also follows that alternative information should not be dismissed on the basis that it is not in line with the official view.
 
BluuueJammm said:
It also doesn't mean that it isn't true.
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It's called argumentum ad populum. In debate, it is a logical fallacy.

In 1776, most people believed blacks were an inferior race. They also believed women had no right to vote.

In Nazi Germany, most people believed the Jews should be put to death with genocide.

In WWII, thousands of Japanese and Italian Americans were rounded up and put in internment camps.

Many people believed in 2002 that Saddam had WMDs. Today, very few believe that.

What people believe is totally separated from the validity of a position. At one time, everyone in Greece believed Zeus lived on Olympus. I have a feeling 200 years from now, people will look back at us, and think

"man, those people were really stupid and foolish"

I don't know if the US government put men on the moon. They faked entry into Iraq and Vietnam, tested syphilis on black men, and the CIA gave LSD to unsuspecting hospital patients without their permission.

I wouldn't put much past them.
 
BluuueJammm said:
We is America in 1969 you fucking ignorant prick, and check out the Lunar laser ranging at the McDonald Observatory for proof we landed on the moon.

It's amazing that people believe this shit, they love to jump on any 'conspiracy' bandwagon because they think it's 'cool'. Take any official point of view and oppose it, whoopiefuckingdo.
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It's nice that you call people ignorant pricks. Notice how the "conspiracy nuts" dont use such harsh words usually, and are more open to discussion?

As for the McDonald Laser sighting that is not exactly proof. It would be like having a dead body and stating that is proof that so and so happened. Its not the same thing. And for example I state that there was interest in placing laser reflectors on the moon before the Apollo program and after it.

From the official McDonald Site: "Two French-built retroreflector packages were soft-landed on the lunar surface by Soviet landers [Barker et al., 1975]."

And I really don't care about astronomy but neither the French nor the Soviets were ever there to my knowledge. Not once. But apparently it quite easy to do. We did it the first attempt. And that was 40 years ago.... No one else went....

And I don't completely think we were never there. I just think the official story and a lot of the pictures are fake. One reason is because I have worked in Studios and with lighting. Those are some of the most amazing photos ever and they were done by a couple of amateurs with no lighting and no reflectors. Well except for their McDonald laser reflectors of course.

Maybe they have magical powers to soften, aim, and disperse the incredibly blinding suns Rays in a non-atmospheric condition?
 
I just watched all of that video. To me the biggest question is if it was all planned and executed by the government why did they just follow the exercise from panaroma?
 
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