Time to get un-fat

Deliguy said:
Some truths about dieting:
1) it's worthless without exercise.
2) losing weight doesn't mean you lost fat.
3) if you're eating less you're doing it wrong (proper dieting is about raising your metabolism not trying to stay below it).
4) if you're cutting out entire food groups you're doing it wrong.
5) the most powerful & effective dietary supplement in the world is water
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1) That just not true. Infact some studies have shown that because your metabolism increases your appetite increases right along with it and there by either causing a plateau or even weight gain.
2) True but even if you lose muscle with fat it's still better than nothing at all.
3) Eating less is always going to work better than NOT eating less. Although if you pair it with exercise (and manage not to fall into the higher metabolism/eating more cycle) then that would be optimal.
4)I agree
5)I'm not sure what this means, exactly, but I would probably agree as water is pretty damn essential.

@OP Eli's right though, this is just a gimmick, all your really doing is cutting calories. Even if you eat a big juicy steak your still cutting out the bread, fries, potatoes that go with it and all the other simple carbs you eat throughout the day that is usually just empty calories.
 


I did Atkins a few times. The first time was spectacular results. The latter times, not so much.

I just finished two 10 day and a 21 day master cleanse since the spring. I've completely changed my diet. I sleep better, my skin is better, my mood is better, and life is just a lot more consistent.

I disagree with Eli about metabolism. Some studies show that exercise is overrated when it comes to weight loss.

Exercise? A fat lot of good that is for weight loss - Times Online

What makes a difference is not crash diets, supplements or insane workouts. It's about changing your life and committing to health. Eating less meat and processed food, and finding delicious alternatives like middle eastern and Mediterranean style diets heavy with raw vegetables.

Something most people don't consider is that while we put food in for its nutritional value (or caloric impact) we don't assess the cost to actually digest it. Meat in large amounts, especially red meat can be brutal on your digestive tract, which triggers so much of your body's processes, including resistance to disease, and tissue regeneration.

A good start is to eat very light breakfasts (break fast, get it?), and to make sure you don't eat 3 hours before you sleep. Your body needs a break from eating, to digest, to handle waste etc. As important as what you eat, is when you eat and how much.

/soapbox
 
papajohn56 said:
I'm not eliminating carbs completely, it's just limited for the first 14 days to 15-20g per day.
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When is more important than how many, within reason. Seriously, do some reading on the krebs cycle, learning how your body operates on the electrochemical level is interesting shit.

Good luck, congrats for taking action!
 
4) if you're cutting out entire food groups you're doing it wrong.
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Unless you're cutting the soda or ice cream food group.

Also, fuck cardio. It's masturbation. Lift weights, build muscle, and raise your testosterone. Cutting bad cards is a good idea but don't get stupid and cut out fruits/vegetables.

Evolutionary/Primal Fitness is the shit: Mark's Daily Apple
 
how much do you way there fatty? I weight about a fat-shit 218 right now. 6 feet tall.

if I could just cut out the copious amounts of beer, which lead to pizza and other shiz, I'd be under a deuce in no time
 
I did something similar it was a keto diet made by a bodybuilder (forgot his name). Not sure if it's the same thing but I would eat no carbs (maybe <10 a day). Then do the normal workout routine. Finally at the end of the week I would do a carb up eating about 500 calories more than normal and about 70% or so of my calories were carbs. It was really difficult and I wasn't able to go past 2 weeks.

Anyways before that I was doing a regular diet (40% prot/40% carbs/20% fats) and ate a strict diet 500 calories below maintence with cardio (3x a week) and a workout routine (3x a week) and i lost fat just fine. I'd say unless you're hit a plateau in your weight loss then just stick to the normal routine 0 carb diets are just too hard, and offered really no added benefit when I did it.
 
dude just take forcemax. i read this blog that you can get ripped in like 4 weeks nomatter your weight. u dont even have to exercise much either
 
not much of the advice in this thread is relevant without knowing more about the op. what is your natural build? how old are you? what kind of shape are you in? weight and bf%? what do you want to look like/what are your goals? build muscle? just lose some weight?

tough to give any decent advice without some background.
 
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Deliguy said:
I'm kind of shocked to see an IM falling for a diet gimmick especially atkins. Pm me for some acai berries, colon cleanse and an ab circle.

Some truths about dieting:
1) it's worthless without exercise.
2) losing weight doesn't mean you lost fat.
3) if you're eating less you're doing it wrong (proper dieting is about raising your metabolism not trying to stay below it).
4) if you're cutting out entire food groups you're doing it wrong.
5) the most powerful & effective dietary supplement in the world is water
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Yup.

I lost 40 pounds on Atkins about seven years ago but the only long-term effect was high cholesterol. It's impossible to maintain the weight loss unless you never eat carbs again.

I heard this thing once about eating less and exercising more, but I misplaced the bookmark.
 
You can keep the weight off, you just gain back your glycogen/water weight as it's depleted while you eat no carbs (from what I've read).
 
certified fitness asshole here..

Here is how you lose weight, maintain, or gain weight:


1. Find your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate). There are calculations out there, google it. Your BMR is how many calories your body burns per day in and of itself through the various involuntary functions that occur. (Heart beating, brain functions, digestive functions etc..)

2. Once you know your "rough" BMR, you have your starting point for whatever your goal is. Let's say for example your BMR is 2,200 calories and you want to lose fat.

It's calories in vs. calories out (it always is regardless of goal)

Calories out:
BMR (2,200 Calories)
Voluntary physical action (up to you, the more active like through exercise, the more calories). Let's say you're mostly sedentary behind the computer but you work your ass off in the gym with resistance training and cardio training, and burn 600 calories.

Total daily caloric expenditure = 2,800 Calories Out

Calories in:
The food you consume. This is again up to you. Let's say your goal is to lose 2 lbs a week. Since there are 3,500 calories in 1 lb of fat, you need 7,000 calories LESS per week to lose 2 lbs. So, we take 7,000 divide it by 7 Days (1,000 calories LESS than the 2,800 calories you burned).

You need to consume 1,800 calories for your diet assuming your BMR is 2.2k and you burn 600 calories in order to lose 2 lbs a week.

It's simple math. If you want to gain weight, you consume MORE than 2,800 calories.


Now most people don't need to bother with the specifics like BMR, but the above example is how it all works. And of course there are little tricks here n' there to play around with those numbers and influence goals..

For instance, doing resistance training (freeweights/machine resistance) will increase your BMR because it builds muscle, and muscle requires more calories than to operate/maintain/function. This helps you burn fat through a higher BMR.

Eating more frequently also raises your BMR. 5-6 smaller portioned meals makes your digestive system work more throughout the day, which raises your BMR, thus resulting in fat loss.


Bottom line is, is just stay away from foods that you know are bad most of the time. Drink a lot of water. Workout on a regular basis with both resistance training and cardio training. Do those few things consistently, and you'll reach your goal(s).
 
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