Chinese Lawyer Condemns Communist Government, Gets Tortured And Killed

Absolutely not. I've already stated so in a previous post.
No society will EVER be perfect, EVER.

But to compare the US to China and their policies is ABSOLUTELY CRAZY. The only way someone can rationally do so is to have extreme anti American bias running through their veins.

It's a waste of time trying to show the light to drones. Once they're infected with their anti-American bias, it's incredibly hard for them to see nuance. Like you said, to compare what China does to what the U.S. does is sheer lunacy, but that's nothing new with these guys. Good job reppin the truth, though.
 


That they don't openly do it to their own people inside their own borders is a moot point. Torture is torture. Murder is murder.

That isn't a mute point. It is a very important point. I agree with you that hellblazer of all people being appalled by torture is very hypocritical.

Governments have a responsibility to their own people. When a government no longer even answers to its own people that is a fascist state.

And I agree that the way things are going, and thanks to idiots who think governments should have the power to torture, the US may end up like that. But it is still currently far, far from a fascist state.
 
how are you going to compare the torture of war time enemies to the torture of a countries own citizen?? IT is two entirely different situations.

Wether the war were fighting right now is just or not we are fighting enemies using extreme guerrilla tactics how else do you expect the U.S. government to gather information?

You should be glad you have the right to talk the amount of shit you have about the united states without any risk of repercussion (if you even live in the U.S). The point of this thread is demonstrating that if you lived in China and spoke out against your country like you have so far you could end up getting tortured and murdered.
 
It's a waste of time trying to show the light to drones. Once they're infected with their anti-American bias, it's incredibly hard for them to see nuance. Like you said, to compare what China does to what the U.S. does is sheer lunacy, but that's nothing new with these guys. Good job reppin the truth, though.

OK, at this point I can't help but feel I'm being trolled. It's either that or you're all too stupid to read the words that are in front of your face. You like to selectively pick and choose the points which you answer to. You don't ever actually address all the things I've said.

"Nuance"? Is that what we are talking about? Subtle nuance? Fuck you.

Once again; your state tortures and murders innocent people. Therefore you have no right to criticize others that do the same. Inside, outside, your people, their people... it doesn't matter. You torture and murder innocent people.
 
OK, at this point I can't help but feel I'm being trolled. It's either that or you're all too stupid to read the words that are in front of your face. You like to selectively pick and choose the points which you answer to. You don't ever actually address all the things I've said.

"Nuance"? Is that what we are talking about? Subtle nuance? Fuck you.

Once again; your state tortures and murders innocent people. Therefore you have no right to criticize others that do the same. Inside, outside, your people, their people... it doesn't matter. You torture and murder innocent people.

The foreigners are always hating until they get invaded and then guess who they call on? Ignorant bastards! Don't worry friend, I am still in the reserves, Even though you and your kind are anti-American, I'll come save your sorry ass anyways, if I am called to do so.
 
how are you going to compare the torture of war time enemies to the torture of a countries own citizen?? IT is two entirely different situations.

Wether the war were fighting right now is just or not we are fighting enemies using extreme guerrilla tactics how else do you expect the U.S. government to gather information?

You should be glad you have the right to talk the amount of shit you have about the united states without any risk of repercussion (if you even live in the U.S). The point of this thread is demonstrating that if you lived in China and spoke out against your country like you have so far you could end up getting tortured and murdered.

Dude, you aren't fighting a war... you are engaged in multiple occupations. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. There never were any "weapons of mass destruction". It was all a lie.

100,000+ dead Iraqis weren't "war time enemies". The majority of them were innocent civilians, and the death toll continues to climb.

If an occupying force came to America claiming you had weapons of mass destruction (which you do) and that you were a threat to them (which you do, which you are to every country in the world), would you not expect your people to stand up to your invaders?

And, once again, I'm not talking "shit" about the United States. There's a lot of shit in this world. What the Chinese do is despicable. So is what the US is engaged in.
 
The foreigners are always hating until they get invaded and then guess who they call on? Ignorant bastards! Don't worry friend, I am still in the reserves, I'll come save your sorry ass if I am called to do so.

See now here's the thing... my family used to own a weekend place in Washington state. I spent every weekend for 10+ years of my life in the good ol' US of A. I hung out with the kids from Mount Baker High School, shot guns, blew shit up, went river rafting... and a whole bunch of other stuff. I tried to join the US Army in 91 because that's what all my buddies were doing (with my best friend in the 101st) and it seemed like a good idea at the time. I've spent every 4th of July I could at my friend's place in Bellingham. I have a great affection for the country and the people and the values which it tries to represent.

What I can't stand are hypocrites, which you and the OP are.

I appreciate the fact that you will come to my aid if called upon to do so. Will you also torture and murder innocent people if your commander orders you to?
 
Hellblazer do you even do affiliate marketing?

All you seem to do is post shit about how other countries are trash.

You know these arguments never come to a conclusion so why do even start these threads? No one needs to know how much you hate other countries.

PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP
 
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God, the stupidity of some of the people in this thread is just straight disappointing.

Yeah, China is just like America, retards. :rolleyes:

I'm not a moral crusader so I'd love to see some of you guys tortured and raped, it would make me happy. Unfortunately the U.S. government won't do it! However I implore you libtards to take a trip to China and spout off some of your thoughts to them, just so I can see you motherfuckers feel the pain of the electric baton and the boot-heel of our Chinese brothers. I would hope it would build some character in you, but that's asking a bit much knowing some of the spineless, pathetic pussies, aka the people we're dealing with in this thread.

This coming from a former Russian citizen.

PS:
hellbat, specifically, I hope your house gets hit by a Patriot Missile with a bible verse tattooed on it, because based on what I've seen you write here you deserve it moreso than any terrorist ever will, and no I won't buy your shitty WEB-PRINT-IDENTITY >>>>> services.
 
Grammar has nothing to do with intelligence. I am not properly government educated and would eat your squared off .gov brain for lunch. Who educated you and made you the intelligent grammar policeman you are today, the government, right? Nuff said. And yes, I just wrote Nuff you educated moron.


I myself, get sick of having to educate close-minded illiterates like yourself. You must learn to use proper spelling, grammar, punctuation, and rhetoric when attempting to persuade or even prove a point. It is evident that you did not receive a proper education in your youth, and you will continue to suffer by writing in this form. I suggest you to invest in the institution of Hooked on Phonics at your earliest convenience simply because it will improve yourself as a person.

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And here ya go:

Protests erupt across Pakistan over torture victim?s frame-up
Unclaimed Territory - by Glenn Greenwald: The Bush administration's torture of U.S. citizen Jose Padilla
US torture of John Walker Lindh exposed as frame-up continues
 
I myself, get sick of having to educate close-minded illiterates like yourself. You must learn to use proper spelling, grammar, punctuation, and rhetoric when attempting to persuade or even prove a point. It is evident that you did not receive a proper education in your youth, and you will continue to suffer by writing in this form. I suggest you to invest in the institution of Hooked on Phonics at your earliest convenience simply because it will improve yourself as a person.

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And here ya go:

Protests erupt across Pakistan over torture victim?s frame-up
Unclaimed Territory - by Glenn Greenwald: The Bush administration's torture of U.S. citizen Jose Padilla
US torture of John Walker Lindh exposed as frame-up continues

LOL..your pointing to a free blog on blogger.com for your facts? Sorry if someone has some real information concerning the US government tourturing it's citizens then they will shell out the $10 for a domain name. Hell a .info is only .99!

Second, the blogger.com shit is concerning jose padilla aka Abdullah al-Muhajir. He is a terrorist with ties to al-qaeda. If he was picked up 50 years ago for being a terrorist, he would already have been hung.

The terrorist started this shit by killing innocents. They and whoever is affiliated with them should be tourtured (not any of this pansy ass waterboarding shit) gleamed of information and shot in the head.

You would think different if your child, mother, father etc. was in the World Trade Towers on Sept. 11th 2001. Post like yours just go to show that being book smarts doesn't mean a person has common sense.
 
God, the stupidity of some of the people in this thread is just straight disappointing.

Yeah, China is just like America, retards. :rolleyes:

Another one with serious reading comprehension problems. No where did anyone say that America was "just like" China.

I'm not a moral crusader so I'd love to see some of you guys tortured and raped, it would make me happy. Unfortunately the U.S. government won't do it! However I implore you libtards to take a trip to China and spout off some of your thoughts to them, just so I can see you motherfuckers feel the pain of the electric baton and the boot-heel of our Chinese brothers. I would hope it would build some character in you, but that's asking a bit much knowing some of the spineless, pathetic pussies, aka the people we're dealing with in this thread.

Wow, what a classy guy. Can't actually make a valid argument so instead you wish horrific violence on those you don't agree with. Nice one.

This coming from a former Russian citizen.

That's great.

PS:
hellbat, specifically, I hope your house gets hit by a Patriot Missile with a bible verse tattooed on it, because based on what I've seen you write here you deserve it moreso than any terrorist ever will, and no I won't buy your shitty WEB-PRINT-IDENTITY >>>>> services.

Sweet, more wishes of violence and death. I deserve this more than a terrorist? Really? That's some incredible logic there.

BTW, the Patriot Missile system is specifically a surface to air anti missile system made to shoot down other missiles. I suppose an errant one that had missed its target could hit my house, but a JDAM or other laser guided munition would be better suited for bombing me.

Terrible shame you won't be using my design services, but fact is I have more work than I can handle servicing the many clients I already look after. Thanks anyways.
 
Another one with serious reading comprehension problems. No where did anyone say that America was "just like" China.



Wow, what a classy guy. Can't actually make a valid argument so instead you wish horrific violence on those you don't agree with. Nice one.



That's great.



Sweet, more wishes of violence and death. I deserve this more than a terrorist? Really? That's some incredible logic there.

BTW, the Patriot Missile system is specifically a surface to air anti missile system made to shoot down other missiles. I suppose an errant one that had missed its target could hit my house, but a JDAM or other laser guided munition would be better suited for bombing me.

Terrible shame you won't be using my design services, but fact is I have more work than I can handle servicing the many clients I already look after. Thanks anyways.


Look fuckbat, I think you missed the point. And please forgive me for my threats of violence, it was my 21st birthday last night I think I'm still drunk.

But anyway, back to the point.

Morally corrupt, pathetic leeches like you will get theirs in due time. And I'm sorry for not knowing the finer nuances of what a Patriot Missile is, but unfortunately Wickedfire doesn't allow retroactive edits of posts.

And yeah, you do deserve more than a terrorist. Because in all honesty, without you.. and people like you, the world will be a better place. Whereas a terrorist works through isolated and rare instances of horrific violence (largely motivated by their socio-economic status of extreme poverty and general shittyness), you (and people like you) do the world a great disservice rather nefariously while at the same time having more than you can appreciate.. and do far more damage.
 
FATBAT - tell me bout it, what happened to make you that way?? were you eaten at birth????

This is from the Seoul Times

Here are some more sources you can check and verify yourself. My understanding is that this is kept very secret and China sensors any reporters, websites and any photos within the country. So it is very difficult for this story to be further reported on by human rights activists.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/feb/08020109.html
“New macabre manifestations of this conscienceless abortion mentality include the recent opening of five restaurants in the region of X, which began serving ‘fetal soup’ at the price of 300 Yuan (approximately $40) a bowl!
Recent medical publications have praised the exceptional health benefits for the consuming of ‘fetal remains’ (this jargon allows them to overlook what this really is-unborn baby bodies).
Therefore, local entrepreneurs jumped on the opportunity to distribute this new health breakthrough to the chosen few who could afford the price. So evil and scandalous is this fetal soup trade that the Government shut down the Web sites advertising the restaurants, in fear that they would scandalize the reputation of the People’s Republic to outside countries and businesses.
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-3-29/53482.html

The following is the text of an article which originally appeared in the Hong Kong Eastern Express on April 12, 1995. For more information, contact Bruce Gilley at The Eastern Express in Hong Kong, telephone 011-852-27071111, or fax 011-852-27071122.
No one could accuse The Chinese of being squeamish about the things they eat – monkeys’ brains, owls’ eyes, bears’ paws and deep fried scorpions are all items on The menu. But most dishes revered as national favorites sound as harmless as boiled rice when compared to the latest pint de jour allegedly gaining favor in Shenzhen – human fetus.
Rumors that dead embryos were being used as dietary supplements started to spread early last year with reports that some doctors in Shenzhen hospitals were eating dead fetuses after carrying out abortions. The doctors allegedly defended their actions by saying the embryos were good for their skin and general health.
A trend was set and soon reports circulated that doctors in the city were promoting fetuses as a human tonic. Hospital cleaning women were seen fighting each other to take the treasured human remains home. Last month, reporters from EastWeek – a sister publication of Eastern Express – went to Shenzhen to see if the rumors could be substantiated. On March 7, a reporter entered the state-run Shenzhen Heath Center for Women and Children feigning illness and asked a female doctor for a fetus. The doctor said the department was out of stock but to come again.
The next day the reporter returned at lunch time. The doctor eventually emerged from the operating theatre holding a fist size glass bottle stuffed with thumbsized fetuses.
She said: “There are 10 fetuses here, all aborted this morning. You can take them. We are a state hospital and don’t charge anything.

“Normally, we doctors take them home to eat – all free. Since you don’t look well, you can take them.”
Not every state hospital is as generous with its dead embryos as the Health Center for Women and Children. At the Shenzhen People’s Hospital, for example, the reporter was in for a surprise.
Are you disgusted yet?
The question us Americans should be asking is “Should the US be doing any business with this notoriously evil and communist country that violates human rights daily. A country where humans are treated worse than animals here in the states. A country that controls the people and eats dead babies?”
You might want to think about this kind of stuff the next time you purchase an item “Made in China” from your local WalMart. Just a thought…
Source: Seoul Times

More Fact Links and Info For Those That Just Cannot Believe This: (maybe you need to eat some to get this in your thick skull that this is real, I don’t know?)

Holy fuck some people are gullible... snopes.com: Fetus Eaten by Asians
 
Blastyourass, that sounds like a lot of bullshit. I really wouldn't believe the Epoch Times, who are known for making up anti-Chinese propaganda

But the Communist Red Guards on the other hand did get into a bit of Cannibalism:

A Tale of Red Guards and Cannibals - NYTimes.com

At some high schools, students killed their principals in the school courtyard and then cooked and ate the bodies to celebrate a triumph over "counterrevolutionaries," the documents report. Government-run cafeterias are said to have displayed bodies dangling on meat hooks and to have served human flesh to employees.


Instead, the actions appeared to be ideological: the cannibalism, which the documents say took place in public, was often organized by local Communist Party officials, and people apparently took part together to prove their revolutionary ardor.

Some of those reportedly involved in the cannibalism received minor punishments when the Cultural Revolution ended after Mao's death in 1976. Wuxuan County expelled 91 people from the Communist Party for having eaten human flesh, and it demoted or cut the wages of 39 non-members of the party, but apparently no one faced criminal prosecution.

On the other hand, here's one Fatbat will enjoy: a Chinese article claimed that it is in America that people are eating foetuses, after Reagan's NeoConservative Revolution:
Subject: Higher food prices - AmeriKKKans begin to eat Fresh human Placenta - australia_legal(237415)

What would make people do such a thing without any fear of condemnation?
Since Reagan's NeoConservative Revolution, a complete lack of morality and
respect for human life has become the norm in America. Over time, domination
by the American NeoConservative regime has led to inhuman behavior and human
rights violations resulting in abnormal practices such as cannibalism and
torture.
 
FATBAT - tell me bout it, what happened to make you that way??

What way am I exactly? You're getting all pissy because I called out the OP for his hypocrisy? He's just pissed because he doesn't like communists and because they're persecuting and torturing Christians. If it were Muslims being persecuted and tortured he wouldn't give a shit.

I'm not going to address a well known urban myth any further.

On the other hand, here's one Fatbat will enjoy:

Why would I enjoy that exactly? I'm not anti American. I don't get my jollies from crap like that. I don't like propaganda, lies, and bullshit from any source.