How I Lost $4,600 through COPEAC

I wish you would dedicate that long of a post to the Opes thread, which is 100x more of a big deal than this pathetic attempt to draw attention away from the real issue.


I am sure you do. Do you even run Opes offers?
 


Like i said before i am sure my team fought to save some of the money generated, however the advertiser is sticking to the fact that the leads were bs and the publisher was doing something shady (admitted by the OP's lawyer profitaddiction)

Even if what he was doing was legit for the first 2-3 weeks it doesnt matter, he got shady and paid the price. I am not going to fight your cause, if we were paid he would have been paid but since we arent getting paid and since your "buddy" decided to bend the rules and got caught i am not going to waste my time fighting for this.

Anyone agreeing with he should be paid for something is part of the problems in the affiliate space, do something shady hope you dont get caught and if you do claim it was only one lead out of thousands. This is why big advertiser/brand names are afraid of affiliate marketing.

Instead you get scammy offers who pay half of what a brand advertiser pays, did you know an eye glass company pays $5 for someone to download a coupon? To bad those campaigns will never make their way to the affiliates because of people like the OP who think its OK to be shady so long as youre not caught and if caught go on WF and say it wasnt the entire time.

Even if its true its not going to be believed, its like a room full of people, 1 million in cash on the floor the lights go out, moneys gone and one person went to jail in the past for robbing a bank, would you think the butler did it? what if the bank robber suddenly had a $100 bill sticking out his back pocket? He says he only took $500, the rest someone else must have taken! Believe him?

Would you even bother questioning the rest of the room?

At this point you can all respond back and forth on your opinion dont expect me to spend anymore time on this.


OP: get your money back+more by suing copeac for defamation.

They obviously were given no proof, and hypothetical assumptions about the iframe does not give them the right to call you a shady marketer and hurt your reputation with other affiliate companies.
 
I think this is where networks drop the ball big time. I dont have a solution for this but...

What stops me from making up a bogus offer, signing up to Copeac as an advertiser, maybe prepay 5-10k and then having their affiliates running it nonstop to the tune of $50k and then saying.. sorry Mike the leads didnt back out for us so we are not paying and just walk away? This is the ultimate ROI for someone for sure with getting almost free traffic.

To me that just fucking sounds shady as fuck. There may be more to it, but no one has bothered to say so. If there is no checks and balances, then I can totally see why fraud is so out of control with affiliate marketing.
 
I think this is where networks drop the ball big time. I dont have a solution for this but...

What stops me from making up a bogus offer, signing up to Copeac as an advertiser, maybe prepay 5-10k and then having their affiliates running it nonstop to the tune of $50k and then saying.. sorry Mike the leads didnt back out for us so we are not paying and just walk away? This is the ultimate ROI for someone for sure with getting almost free traffic.

To me that just fucking sounds shady as fuck. There may be more to it, but no one has bothered to say so. If there is no checks and balances, then I can totally see why fraud is so out of control with affiliate marketing.

Exactly, thank you.

I'm done with this thread too. Just be careful who you work with and have proof of everything.
 
OP: get your money back+more by suing copeac for defamation.

They obviously were given no proof, and hypothetical assumptions about the iframe does not give them the right to call you a shady marketer and hurt your reputation with other affiliate companies.

lol you retarded bro?

defamation lol
 
M. Krongel has been very vocal about criticizing me (while asking for our business at the same time, go figure.) That being said, I have to support him in this 100%. As an affiliate network he has every right to refuse payment based on fraud, or suspected fraud. Most networks actually have in there contracts that they are no more than brokers, and will not pay if they are not paid.

Krongel is 100% correct in what he says, period. While we often pay out publishers when we aren't paid to save relationships, I understand that some networks can not afford this financially, and I will support their decision to do so.

That being said, I think its really stupid for ANYONE to discuss their legal issues over a message board. People need to learn to STFU!
 
Krongel is 100% correct in what he says, period. While we often pay out publishers when we aren't paid to save relationships, I understand that some networks can not afford this financially, and I will support their decision to do so.

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If COPEAC isn't paid, I'd ask them the info of the advertiser and sue them with COPEAC's permission. Obviously if the guy went out of business, there is an issue.
 
If COPEAC isn't paid, I'd ask them the info of the advertiser and sue them with COPEAC's permission. Obviously if the guy went out of business, there is an issue.

Wouldn't that bring more scrutiny to methods of promotion, be it blog or article presells? Pretty much connect us to what our websites are online? Curious to know if the legal path is available without other negative repercussions in an unrelated case where I was scammed for a bit over $30,000. Haven't gone public about it here.