Affiliate Marketing for 2010. How come nobody will tell the truth?



xTrav said:
I don't understand why people won't share the money making secrets?
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Mate, I'm as frustrated as you, failed with everything I tried so far. But learned a lot meantime.

There are areas with bigger money than internet marketing - like stock market. Some of the guys earn millions there. Now, try to go to one of them and ask him to share his secrets. Then borrow 10000$ from bank and do whatever he tells you. Soon you gonna be reach. The problem is stock-market-guru will not share his secrets like top guys here. So I don't know why people think online marketing gurus will... I don't know the area where people who "made it" will share their knowledge...

I believe in some time you will be one of this top guys (wish you this) and then you will see yourself if you're ready to give away your secrets. And if answer will be yes I will follow you :)
 
You have some really great advice in these posts. I'm fairly new to this game but I'll tell you how I got started.

I was shopping at amazon one day and stumbled upon their affiliate link, did some goggle searching on how it worked and found that people actually made money off it. I immediately got an adwords account, made an ad and pointed it directly at my amazon delivered harry potter pre-sale page. I was paying like .30 a click. Needless to say I lost a bundle (only like 2 people bought), but I learned an important lesson.

Next I got an affiliate link to one of those extreme t-shirt websites and took out ads on facebook targeting the college crowd, which again failed miserably. It did poorly but I learned some more lessons.

I let a year go by and then decided I'd give it another try. This time I did my research though. I found this site as well as some really good blogs. I lurked around the forums for a good couple months and spent at least 100 hours reading up and then decided to just go for it. I signed up with an agency and picked out an email submit that paid $2 per sign up. This time I actually created a landing page, created several different ads, got tracking software and spent a lot of time tweaking and analyzing. Guess what? I started making 30 - 40 bucks a day. The program ended after about a month but I actually made some money. It took a lot of work but now I can see how someone can actually make money doing this.

I've had a really busy year and haven't started up another campaign but I still research at least a few hours a month. I plan on starting up another one in the next month or so and I know that I will spend a lot of time getting it right. Actually I plan on spending a ridiculous amount of time on it now that I know that I have so much to learn to succeed in this business.

I may be a newb but so far the secret looks like a little risk taking and a lot of hard work.
 
well they wont just share it to avoid congestion of the niche or what. It is but for us to find our own way and our own strategies. Thank you to those who are generous enough to share their methods and gives out advices.
 
sinack said:
Let's take a look at you. You want(ed) to believe that you can buy a book/program that is going to hold your hand and make you money. So, you spent your own money on an affiliate program that made other people money. You bought the sizzle, but not the steak. Apply your own interests to your marketing.
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No sir. I do not want anyone to hold my hand to make any easy money. I am one of the hardest workers you have ever seen. I promise you, once I figure this shit out I will outwork any one of you lazy fucks who could be making 10 times what you are making now. I don't care for the John Chow lazy mentality. Im looking for Shawn Hogan type money but only by doing it legally.

Second of all, when you are curious about a subject and want to know more, you typically buy a book or course to teach you everything that you need to know. Let's take cooking for example. I buy a recipe book, and it will tell me exactly how to cook the perfect enchiladas. But if I just sit there and keep staring at the page will I be able to actually taste the Enchiladas? Nope. So I must DO WORK SON! I will have to actually get off my ass and goto the grocery store and buy the ingredients and then come home and prepare the food. All of that takes time and energy. I am willing to put in the time and energy if someone will just give me a straight answer.

Lastly, I think it's total bullshit that people are selling programs and E-books on affiliate marketing and they have no clue WTF they are talking about or they just copied and pasted or re-worded someone elses content. They claim you can make money off things like dogs or cats or kayaks or whatever, but the truth is that the person who put together that course already tried making money from all those things and they failed. So that person decided to sell a course on making money and thats when they finally started to make money.

Im not looking for any free handouts. I just want the truth. I wasted a lot of money on buying info books on the subject of affiliate marketing and they taught me nothing. That is what I am mad about.
 
Hey OP:

I'm also a stupid newbie in this industry (literally 1 month in), so maybe we're in the same boat. I've been absorbing everything and here are my lessons learned thus far:

1) How many blogs are you reading? STOP FUCKING READING BLOGS AND GET BACK TO WORK

2) There is no "magic formula" for making money online. That $2,000 "blueprint" IM course you're looking at? It's a fucking scam. Don't expect anything to be handed to you on a silver platter.

3) The best way to learn is to try. If you fail the first few times, so what? If you're depressed about losing a couple of hundred bucks you're probably not cut out for this.

4) Stay the fuck off of Warrior Forums and DP

5) Pick something to begin with and stick with it. Are you doing a niche blog for adsense earnings? CPA with PPC or PPV? Don't hop around from one thing to the next.

Yeah, things might have changed since 2005. But you have a brain and a set of eyes, so you can learn. There's no use in whining about entering the game late. Everyone has to start at some point.

What skills have you been developing to help yourself make money? Copywriting? PHP? Photoshop?

I noticed you're looking for examples of affiliate sites. Affiliate sites are EVERYWHERE. Just go to Google, MSN, or Yahoo and click the ads. I can find them with my eyes closed at this point.

I've launched online startups in the past. Some failed, some succeeded. From the successes, I learned that it takes lots of hard work to create anything worthwhile. From the failures, I've learned many valuable lessons and picked up skills along the way.

I know that AM will be no different, and I also know that whining about why people won't give away their money making "secrets" will get you absolutely nowhere ;)
 
Man, I'm actually surprised that people gave you this much information. Newbies who ask such questions here are usually sent to another version of WickedFire. You're lucky to have been spared, because that's something that you never forget lol

Aug 15th should be declared the official Help A Newbie Day lol
 
xTrav said:
But the real question is how the fuck do I do it?

No sir. I do not want anyone to hold my hand to make any easy money.
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Sorry that I misunderstood, the way I read your original post was that you wanted to be hand held.
 
xTrav said:
But I am a decent person and I don't like to cheat or scam people.
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It's marketing. It is process (dare I say, science), by which to make money. I'd be willing to bet that cheating and scamming isn't on the to-do list for most marketers. If the market is continually buying something, that something is fulfilling a need. Just because you view something as scammy, doesn't mean everyone else does.

On that note, find a need, fulfill it, strategically pump some time/a few bucks/backlinks into it and you'll be successful. Choose a a single niche with little competition and you are bound to make some cheddar.

Most importantly, figure out a process of your own through trial and error. It sounds like you have the basic knowledge down, so apply what you have learned in the best way possible. Figure out what works and use that method to identify and sell things to the 'needs' of the market. You can find all of the info you need to get started on WF. IE, read the stickies, then read them again...and again.

People will not share their exact methods with you, plain and simple. They've spent their own time and money developing a successful system and if they let the cat out of the bag, it's bound to not work as well. Sure, the basic concepts are all the same (good content, backlinks, etc.), but I guarantee nearly everyone executes the process in a different way.

Hate to break it to you, but it isn't all champagne and yachts for everyone in internet marketing. You have to be a whiz or get lucky to strike it big. I'm not saying that to discourage you, but to let you know that it's hard work, so don't set your bar too high. Almost everyone has lost money in IM before they have made it.

Just my $.02
 
Well said!

CoolHandLuke said:
It's marketing. It is process (dare I say, science), by which to make money. I'd be willing to bet that cheating and scamming isn't on the to-do list for most marketers. If the market is continually buying something, that something is fulfilling a need. Just because you view something as scammy, doesn't mean everyone else does.

On that note, find a need, fulfill it, strategically pump some time/a few bucks/backlinks into it and you'll be successful. Choose a a single niche with little competition and you are bound to make some cheddar.

Most importantly, figure out a process of your own through trial and error. It sounds like you have the basic knowledge down, so apply what you have learned in the best way possible. Figure out what works and use that method to identify and sell things to the 'needs' of the market. You can find all of the info you need to get started on WF. IE, read the stickies, then read them again...and again.

People will not share their exact methods with you, plain and simple. They've spent their own time and money developing a successful system and if they let the cat out of the bag, it's bound to not work as well. Sure, the basic concepts are all the same (good content, backlinks, etc.), but I guarantee nearly everyone executes the process in a different way.

Hate to break it to you, but it isn't all champagne and yachts for everyone in internet marketing. You have to be a whiz or get lucky to strike it big. I'm not saying that to discourage you, but to let you know that it's hard work, so don't set your bar too high. Almost everyone has lost money in IM before they have made it.

Just my $.02
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Hey, I think your hat is on sideways. Do you pull one leg up on your sweat pants? Or is that out of style?
 
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