Al Gore Admits Global Warming is a Hoax

Bring on the hormones in beef and genetically altered crops! Maybe it's the reason we are superior to ALL other fucked nations in athletics.
 


mattfca said:
The US is superior?
lolz.
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OK...I'll give long distance running to the Africans (cause they can't afford cars and have to run everywhere they go) and soccer (not football) to the Eurofags

OH and you can have cricket but who gives a fuck about that?
 
writtenstyle said:
Yup! Not to mention the fact that the genetically modified crops are cross pollinating with nearby regular crops, causing them to also become genetically modified.

What is the danger in that?

Genetically modified seeds CANNOT reproduce! So guess what? Every season we lose more and more unmodified crops. You want to talk about big oil? Their are only two or three places where you can buy genetically altered seeds.

So forget the energy supply, the world is heading to a place where the only place we can ever get seeds to grow, is from a handful of corporations that create those modified seeds. (Again, these seeds do not reproduce on their own.

That is scary.
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Have you ever been by a corn field in real life?

We use modified seeds in my area, and I can personally attest that there is TONS of voluenteer crops that come up 1 and 2 years after previous harvest (due to no gleaning of fields). So yes, genetically modified crops do reproduce ,regardless of what Alex Jones tells you.
 
popeye said:
OK...I'll give long distance running to the Africans (cause they can't afford cars and have to run everywhere they go) and soccer (not football) to the Eurofags

OH and you can have cricket but who gives a fuck about that?
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I'm Canadian, only thing we have is hockey and lacrosse :P
 
Am I the only one seriously disappointed by the lack of a real video there?

popeye said:
OK...I'll give long distance running to the Africans (cause they can't afford cars and have to run everywhere they go) and soccer (not football) to the Eurofags

OH and you can have cricket but who gives a fuck about that?
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Grid Iron - armour = Rugby... who's superior now?
Also, we kick your arse in swimming... An essential skill once the see levels rise :P
 
schockergd said:
Have you ever been by a corn field in real life?

We use modified seeds in my area, and I can personally attest that there is TONS of voluenteer crops that come up 1 and 2 years after previous harvest (due to no gleaning of fields). So yes, genetically modified crops do reproduce ,regardless of what Alex Jones tells you.
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I too live in an agriculture area. We grow mostly cotton and soybeans. I dont know who Alex Jones is, or who you are, but you can not get growable seed from genetically altered crops.

We also grow ALOT of watermelon around here. Ever heard of seedless watermelon?
 
writtenstyle said:
I too live in an agriculture area. We grow mostly cotton and soybeans. I dont know who Alex Jones is, or who you are, but you can not get growable seed from genetically altered crops.

We also grow ALOT of watermelon around here. Ever heard of seedless watermelon?
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Well... someone never heard of reproduction by parthenogenesis.

Also seedless watermelons are not seedless, they simply contain far fewer seeds, and the ones that remain are usually soft and pale, so they tend not to be noticed.
 
writtenstyle said:
I too live in an agriculture area. We grow mostly cotton and soybeans. I dont know who Alex Jones is, or who you are, but you can not get growable seed from genetically altered crops.

We also grow ALOT of watermelon around here. Ever heard of seedless watermelon?
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In my area we grow corn and soy, and pretty much all the seeds are these modified ones that are supposed to not reproduce.

This year a large gas pipeline went through, and in order to do so they had to tear up quite a few fields, causing farmers not to plant in quite a few fields due to potential contamination ,ect.

Were the fields barren with weeds growing? Hardly, it *almost* looked like they had gone through and planted a normal crop , but all of the growth was volunteer corn from the year prior.
 
schockergd said:
In my area we grow corn and soy, and pretty much all the seeds are these modified ones that are supposed to not reproduce.

This year a large gas pipeline went through, and in order to do so they had to tear up quite a few fields, causing farmers not to plant in quite a few fields due to potential contamination ,ect.

Were the fields barren with weeds growing? Hardly, it *almost* looked like they had gone through and planted a normal crop , but all of the growth was volunteer corn from the year prior.
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That is pretty cool. Did the crops produce edible corn, or did they just produce the plants?
 
writtenstyle said:
That is pretty cool. Did the crops produce edible corn, or did they just produce the plants?
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Yeah , the ears were a little bit smaller though, which I imagine is due to the fact they didn't use any pesticides/herbicides/fertilizer on crops the entire season. If memory serves me right, I talked to a few people who ate the corn and said it wasn't too bad.
 
Take this into consideration though:

Vandana Shiva vs. Monsanto

Let us consider a widely circulated story about Indian farmers who committed suicide. This story comes from Dr. Vandana Shiva. The Monsanto company is supposed to have lured these farmers into borrowing heavily to grow genetic engineered cotton. When their crop failed, they were unable to repay their debts and hundreds committed suicide.

Actually, India had not yet licensed transgenic cotton, but there were some sites where transgenic cotton was grown in test plots, to determine scientifically whether the variety under test would be successful and whether any problems might be detected. The farmers who tended these test plots were not paid for the cotton, which was meant to be destroyed. They took no risk. But the truth is much worse. Although the suicides are a complete fiction, Dr. Shiva is correct when she says that the cotton crop failed. It failed because nearby Indian farmers were incited to raid the fields and burn up the young cotton plants.

Now why would they have done that? It was because they were told that the test plots were growing a variety of cotton with the terminator seed technology. This was a lie.
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Now course comments like "Genetically modified crops can't reproduce" would generally stem from the type of hype above. While it is true that an actual agricultural company has patentended the Terminator Protection system, meaning the second generations of seeds were supposed to be worthless, as a way of protecting the seed producers from loss sales due to reselling of the generated crop's own seeds.

But no genetically modified seeds on the market are currently made sterile intentionally, its just that some products become sterile as a side effect, such as removing a component of rice that prevents the human body of absorbing iron, but the same component is used in the breeding process of rice, but said side affects depend on the food type and the modification done to it, and is certainly not true of all produce.
 
schockergd said:
Yeah , the ears were a little bit smaller though, which I imagine is due to the fact they didn't use any pesticides/herbicides/fertilizer on crops the entire season. If memory serves me right, I talked to a few people who ate the corn and said it wasn't too bad.
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Now that is pretty cool.

kblessinggr said:
Take this into consideration though:

Now course comments like "Genetically modified crops can't reproduce" would generally stem from the type of hype above. While it is true that an actual agricultural company has patentended the Terminator Protection system, meaning the second generations of seeds were supposed to be worthless, as a way of protecting the seed producers from loss sales due to reselling of the generated crop's own seeds.

But no genetically modified seeds on the market are currently made sterile intentionally, its just that some products become sterile as a side effect, such as removing a component of rice that prevents the human body of absorbing iron, but the same component is used in the breeding process of rice, but said side affects depend on the food type and the modification done to it, and is certainly not true of all produce.
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Who cares if it is intentional or not? If it happens, and cross pollinates with other nearby crops, those crops become "unintentionally" able to reproduce also.

I'm just sayin' sometimes it is best to leave nature alone.
 
writtenstyle said:
Who cares if it is intentional or not? If it happens, and cross pollinates with other nearby crops, those crops become "unintentionally" able to reproduce also.

I'm just sayin' sometimes it is best to leave nature alone.
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You're missing the point, your point would be perfectly valid, if all varieties of genetically modified seeds were known to produce sterile crop, when the reality is, only a handful of the thousands of varieties are known to do this.

Course if you want a pretty cool agriculture conspiracy theory, you should have saw that one episode of CSI: Maimi producing poisonous corn due to the modification. :D

Also one of the reasons companies are looking to heavy modifications of certain produce, is simply because 'leaving nature alone' might cause a good number of us to starve or at the very least skyrocket the produce prices.
 
writtenstyle said:
Now that is pretty cool.



Who cares if it is intentional or not? If it happens, and cross pollinates with other nearby crops, those crops become "unintentionally" able to reproduce also.

I'm just sayin' sometimes it is best to leave nature alone.
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You need to realize, that corn when first started the cultivation (Which is Hybridization) by the Mayans/Incans (or whoever they were) the average "Ear" of corn was about 1 inch long, and was just about the size of a human thumb.

By the time Columbus came to the new world, Indians had cultivated it to the point it was about 1/2 the size of a current ear, and contained uneven spacing, and generally provided 1/4th of the total grain a current ear of corn does.

In the 60s-70s , companies/groups started modifying corn and created super hybrids. Most of the farmers I've talked to in my area who were farming back then have stated to me the average corn yield was around 50 bushels per acre. The average nationwide is now currently 130 bushels per acre, and some test farms in Iowa are getting around 400 bushels per acre (with 200-250 being the median due to Iowa's good soil).

Had the hybridization and engineering of corn NOT took place in the 60s-70s, the US would have significantly less food, and much higher grain/meat costs.
 
schockergd said:
You need to realize, that corn when first started the cultivation (Which is Hybridization) by the Mayans/Incans (or whoever they were) the average "Ear" of corn was about 1 inch long, and was just about the size of a human thumb.

By the time Columbus came to the new world, Indians had cultivated it to the point it was about 1/2 the size of a current ear, and contained uneven spacing, and generally provided 1/4th of the total grain a current ear of corn does.

In the 60s-70s , companies/groups started modifying corn and created super hybrids. Most of the farmers I've talked to in my area who were farming back then have stated to me the average corn yield was around 50 bushels per acre. The average nationwide is now currently 130 bushels per acre, and some test farms in Iowa are getting around 400 bushels per acre (with 200-250 being the median due to Iowa's good soil).

Had the hybridization and engineering of corn NOT took place in the 60s-70s, the US would have significantly less food, and much higher grain/meat costs.
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Also corn, naturally grown and 'left' alone, had little to no usable nutrients.

And Botonist have been genetically modifying plants for centuries thru selective breeding.
 
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