Anyone sick of scrubs? We are.



I dont give a fuck about "freebie whores" or whatever.

I send a legit lead - pay me. Simple.

Like Slightly Shady says - if the advertiser cannot afford the payout do not offer it as a carrot to get a load of pubs on board.

I would much rather run a biz op at $25 on the understanding that I was not going to get fucked two days into the campaign.
 
biz opps too..

I dont give a fuck about "freebie whores" or whatever.

I send a legit lead - pay me. Simple.

Like Slightly Shady says - if the advertiser cannot afford the payout do not offer it as a carrot to get a load of pubs on board.

I would much rather run a biz op at $25 on the understanding that I was not going to get fucked two days into the campaign.

Media- thats just the thing---the biz opps, at least with MY experience are also getting scrubbed. No not all of course, but a red colored one..or maybe tracking was just down that day we sent 650 clicks...:338:

Its one thing to do CPL, another to do CPA and get BF'd on those as well, hence, a shittay week.
Im not ranting about email subs scrubbing..that will ALWAYS happen. When it starts getting to the CPA side, thats when I start saying WTF..
 
12 hours...?

That's entirely fiction. I think everyone here as seen scrubs kick in long before there was time to gauge the traffic quality.
If you can't afford the payout, don't offer it.

End of business day #1 to offer, 10pm: convo rate above 22%
Starting at 7am next day: 1-2%, and continued thru the day.

XMCP is right.
 
We really need a new wave of advertisers that can actually remain scrubless, and simply pay less. As someone has mentioned, I would be fine on getting paid less if I knew that I won't have 50-70% fluctuations. Fucks me up so badly.
 
i'm getting very disappointing results this weekend on health related rebills. it's a joke compared to last week.

conversion rates have been extremely volatile from one day to the next over here as well. it's frustrating but overall i'm trying not to let it get to me as long as things pan out in the long term.
 
Not suprised this post came out the scrubs this week have been BAD.
Timing has a lot to do with it, slow period for AM & always has been. So Advertisers---> Networks--->Affiliates= Shit rolls downhill.
 
this is 2009

why would it be so hard to just pay out variable CPA amounts based on the advertisers' ROI? Recalculate it hourly, daily, whatever you want.

You could have more transparency and everyone maintains their ROI.
 
JYFI 11 clicks and 2 leads could have been a fluke.. nowhere significant enough to be based on.

For the redirect, that was probably what was best out of what was left. They wouldn't redirect it to shit for shits an giggles. Networks make money when we make money.
 
They are verifying the submitted data for correctness and most likely to prevent duplicates. You can't take one extreme or the other and expect the CPA model to work. The advertiser has to pay out reasonably on conversions while the publisher has to understand that there are such things as fraud, duplicate data and "free trial" whores who affect the performance of a particular offer.

And how is that my fucking problem?

If shit my end doesn't 'back out' (ie. isn't profitable) I don't expect the merchant to compensate me so - it's not hius problem. Why should it work the other way around?
 
I dont give a fuck about "freebie whores" or whatever.

I send a legit lead - pay me. Simple.

Like Slightly Shady says - if the advertiser cannot afford the payout do not offer it as a carrot to get a load of pubs on board.

I would much rather run a biz op at $25 on the understanding that I was not going to get fucked two days into the campaign.

It's hardly that simple, because if your leads are crap they are not worth the payout. Get over yourself dude...the advertisers are in business to make a profit, not get 100 crap leads from your splogs or whatever other misleading tactics you may be employing to inflate your earnings (and then cry when they get wiped for being the garbage they are). Affiliates that share your attitude ruin it for the rest of us who are actually providing quality traffic and not just trying to milk an offer and make a quick buck.

We really need a new wave of advertisers that can actually remain scrubless, and simply pay less. As someone has mentioned, I would be fine on getting paid less if I knew that I won't have 50-70% fluctuations. Fucks me up so badly.

As soon as we get a new wave of affiliates that don't flood offers with crap leads/customers by using questionable tactics...i.e. making fake news pages. lol It works but what do you expect when you basically lie from the get-go? It will come back to bite you in the wallet...faster than you think.

And how is that my fucking problem?

If shit my end doesn't 'back out' (ie. isn't profitable) I don't expect the merchant to compensate me so - it's not hius problem. Why should it work the other way around?

It is your fucking problem because THEY ARE PAYING YOU FOR A SERVICE and you are failing to provide that service if the leads you provide are dupes/fakes or if your customers turn out to be fraudsters/scammers who have no genuine interest in the product.

You can promote your offers however you see fit and it will have some cost attached to it, but you should not expect to be compensated for mediocrity, so if you are spending your money or wasting your time conning people into completing the offer (and not actually SELLING them on the product/service) you can expect to be scrubbed and wiped out of most of your earnings. QQ moar!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
And how is that my fucking problem?

If shit my end doesn't 'back out' (ie. isn't profitable) I don't expect the merchant to compensate me so - it's not hius problem. Why should it work the other way around?

its your problem because they hold the power over you, and they use it
 
I dont give a fuck about "freebie whores" or whatever.

I send a legit lead - pay me. Simple.

Like Slightly Shady says - if the advertiser cannot afford the payout do not offer it as a carrot to get a load of pubs on board.

I would much rather run a biz op at $25 on the understanding that I was not going to get fucked two days into the campaign.

Wait, so you mean your leads are incentive?
 
It is your fucking problem because THEY ARE PAYING YOU FOR A SERVICE and you are failing to provide that service if the leads you provide are dupes/fakes or if your customers turn out to be fraudsters/scammers who have no genuine interest in the product.

You can promote your offers however you see fit and it will have some cost attached to it, but you should not expect to be compensated for mediocrity, so if you are spending your money or wasting your time conning people into completing the offer (and not actually SELLING them on the product/service) you can expect to be scrubbed and wiped out of most of your earnings. QQ moar!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY ARE PAYING ME FOR A LEAD

The agreement I have with th affiliate network is that if someone signs up, I get $40. If I send fraudulent leads, my contract can be terminated and no money paid for those leads. It says nothing about the quality of the lead or if the lead will back out for the merchant.

QQ? Fuck off back to Warcraft...