Bible In Urine: No Violence - Mohammed Cartoon: Mass Murders - Who's The Extremists?

hellblazer said:
2nd ad hominem, cmon let's go for a third! What kind of a troll would you be if you couldn't fit at least 3 in a thread?? Don't let us down!
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And I'll go all day long.

Burning books is for simple minded retards. Literally. I'd say the same thing if they were burning the Bible, the dictionary, Hellblazer Blows a Goat on Christmas Eve...

Your "hero" is just trolling your ass. You should join in with him, since it's so cool and everything. Go burn a book! Post the video on youtube!
 


I grew up in a christian home and my religion is christianity but the truth is most of the fucks who claim Islam and the Quran (no matter how you spell it) is evil, never read a fucking word of one of it's pages.

We live in a crazy fucking world. All these crazies like that "pastor" you are commending Hellblazer, never look at things objectively, they never see the bigger picture. Where was that little Florida man when people were killed and shit if they didn't adopt christian ways back in the day?

No matter how much you love the "draw mohammed" or "burn a koran" day the reality of the situation what Obama, Petraeus and others who are against it say, is fucking true. Troops will for a fact face un-necessary violence when those scum extremists say "look what the Americans have done...blah blah blah" to create another set of jihadists.

When does the cycle of hatred end? Yes we can say muslims are pussies and whatnot, after all they burn the American flag too. But when does it stop? We gain another 9/11, we declare war again.

My opinion is that little prick from Florida who calls himself a reverend and uses religion to misguide people can go suck a fucking nut. That's from a guy who believes in Christianity. He doesn't deserve all the news fame they have given him.
 
nvanprooyen said:
The point is, how the radical segment of the Muslim population reacts to bullshit like this. Up for debate how much of a percentage that segment is.
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Bingo. The burning itself is largely a symbolic move. Two provocations, one religion's adherents react peacefully, the other's react violently.

Now who's the extremists?
 
nvanprooyen said:
I don't think that's the point at all. Of course this is a bad idea. Of course it's in bad taste and disrespectful. Of course it's being done for no other reason than to rile up Muslims. That all is pretty clear to any rational thinking person.

The point is, how the radical segment of the Muslim population reacts to bullshit like this. Up for debate how much of a percentage that segment is.
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It doesn't take much to rile them up. What was it, for the past two years they've killed people for making a cartoon of Mohammad and they've sent death threats to the South Park artists for just creating satire?

The point is, every time someone backs down because they threaten to kill people, it only makes it clear to the radicals that they are gaining more and more control over us. This is why they've gotten such a strong foothold in controlling our government too.

Being afraid of expressing your opinion for fear of death is no way to live, and is certainly not freedom.
 
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The USA has depicted and executed the methods to show it does not FEAR any threats whether domestic or foreign.

So I don't see the point of that argument Rex...it just attributes to more bloodshed on either side.
 
Its his country given right, just like building a mosque near ground zero. Fuck your morals and what you think is wrong.
 
anoko said:
The USA has depicted and executed the methods to show it does not FEAR any threats whether domestic or foreign.

So I don't see the point of that argument Rex...it just attributes to more bloodshed on either side.
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No? Without getting into a lot of conspiracy theories, Glenn Beck (when he's not foaming at the mouth) has listed numerous connections between Muslim leaders and the Federal Government, and what types of laws or power moves have come about because of it.

While I take what he says with a grain of salt, if you follow the paper trail, it's pretty obvious that it is happening. I really didn't care at all until I noticed a Mosque being built next to a primary school just a few miles from my house.

While everyone has the right for their religion, I found it funny that the city had zoning laws preventing a religious building being built within that area, but oddly enough - once people from Atlanta started moving up north to my area, some city officials were "persuaded" to let them build there.

It does happen, and it's happening more and more. No, I'm not a conspiracy nut, but I do have problems with people not seeing that there is an effort to slowly kill this country off from the inside out.
 
jacky8 said:
The act could result in loss of a lot of lives, really. It could cause more outrage against Americans. Why do it then?
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The same reason you don't give in to terrorist demands. You can't alter your actions because your afraid of what the muslims might do to you in return. Giving in to their threats just emboldens thier violence. The progressives might live that way but I don't.

Fuck Muslims...the only moderate muslim is one that doesn't practice Islam...kinda like the Catholic that only goes to church on Easter and Christmas.
 
Not even gonna read.

Just know if you disagree with the mosque being built but agree with the books being burned you're a hypocrite.

And vice versa if you disagree with the books being burned but agree with the mosque being built you are also a hypocrite.

True freedom which is what the U.S. guarantees to it's citizens = mosque can be built, quran can be burned and it's not your fucking business either way so butt out.

STOP SNITCHIN
 
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hellblazer said:
When they wanted to build a mosque at Ground Zero, Obama bent over backwards to assert their right to build it under freedom of religion. All we heard from the dumbfuck libs here was "It's their right!!! ZOMGG!!!"
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Ignoring the fact that no one wanted to "build a mosque at Ground zero" for now...

By "libs" I assume that refers to "liberals" in the modern political sense, rather than a libertarian or philosophical liberal, or whatever.

I am not a political liberal, but I find it interesting when "liberals" are the ones supporting rights, especially property rights.

I'm curious what "conservatives" stand for these days? I know they give lip-service to property rights, but that's obviously not the case.

Modern conservatives appear to be "anti-" a lot of things, especially anti-individual, anti-Constitution ( except when occasionally convenient), anti-property rights, anti-small business.. while embracing big government statism, perpetual wars on multiple fronts ( mostly against US citizens on US soil).

Fuck, "liberals" are terrible, but at least they seem pretty upfront about it and a little more consistent.

The correct "conservative' approach to the "mosque", of course, would be to let the property owner develop the property as he/she/it sees fit and conduct business there how they want and associate with whomever they please.

Of course that would also be the correct "liberal" approach because it is the correct human/"American" approach.

Frankly, I'm about fucking sick of all the anti-American conservatives and fascists masquerading as conservative patriots.
 
Of course the guy can burn all the books he wants to if he feels like it. It's his right.

At the same time don't claim that Christians are not violent. I see a lot of Christians using or attempting to use force ( state violence) to achieve political/religious ends.
 
Let's start here:

1. You get to do whatever you want as long as you don't mess with somebody's property.

Land, money, holy books, your body, whatever. If you own it or have title to it, go for it. Just don't touch the property of others. Wanna burn the "koran?" Have at it. Wanna take a leak on the American flag? Go for it. Wanna take a dump on the bible? Fine. Just leave everyone else's stuff alone.

2. You blame criminal activity on the criminal, not a group.

If an extremist tries to kill the South Park guys, you don't blame it on muslims, islamists, or even extremists. You blame the idiot who tried it. Then, you go after him. If a Christian bombs an abortion clinic, go after the guy, but lay off other Christians who had nothing to do with it.

Lumping people into groups is simpleminded. No wonder guerilla has bailed from these discussions. There's no point to them because everyone gravitates back to their own comfort zones.

Respect property. Respect natural rights. Recognize the individual.
 
popeye said:
You can't alter your actions because your afraid of what the muslims might do to you in return.
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JakeStratham said:
Pure drama.
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jorarulit said:
don't give in. make monies online.
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kingofsp said:
Srsly.
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Well, considering that General Petraeus said this is a really bad idea and might lead to loss of life and undermining of military efforts, I'm really glad you are behind it, since you obviously know more than he does.

Every day people take you less seriously and your immaturity shows to a greater degree. Why do you hate America and our troops?

If you are so bent on having a holy war, how about you go fight it, pussy.
 
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