Blogger and 5 Star Afilliate Programs Bashing WF members

[DaveNL]

Getting payback because someone try to robe you is one thing, putting a kid out of school is something else , and then bragging about it years later on your blog to show what kind of tough mofo you are to you newbie affiliates makes me want to puke in your face.

 

[jerxs]

I personally would NEVER get a kid banned from college, I might break his legs, but getting him kicked out of college that’s pretty fucking low, though I also know being ripped off myself, its a shitty feeling and at that time I was willing to do anything for revenge, yes anything! If you rip me off and push me to far I am really capable of doing anything out of anger without thinking...

Im not supporting Shawn or the other guy, its just one of those things, NO ONE KNOWS, you were not there, you were not involved, it’s a personal thing, its just to bad Shawn had to bring this shit out in the open I personally would of kept it hush, hush and went after him myself for fucking me, but then again if I were that college kid I would have probably showed up on Shawn’s door step. So who the fuck knows and who the fuck really cares, I don’t, you don’t, so do yourself a favor and quit wasting your time.

 

[Deliguy]

So a semester off from school is worse than a criminal record?

I was under the impression you went to college Shawn. Excusing the fact that he didn't actually commit a crime; Yes absolutely, a semester off from school can and is worse than a criminal record.

Most full drop outs happen because the student took a semester off. That aside, having a suspension mark on your student records is a very big deal. It makes it quite a bit harder to not only get your diploma(state universities have defacto student blacklists....oh yes they fuckin do). It makes it nearly impossible to get any good internships especially if you were a computer science major around 2001(you said he went to a technical institute), and it makes it more difficult to compete in the pregraduation job search. So yes a criminal record only hurts you if you get caught again, a student record has lasting consequences.

I think any current college students will probably agree with me on that. When i was in college I once did something stupid and got arrested. It wasn't too big of a deal but you can guess what my number one concern was...not letting my school find out.

I'm a firm believer that even the most hardened of criminals should at least have the opportunity to do something with their lives and make advancements in their own lives and education. Why would you blatantly try to destroy that opportunity for someone just because they did a little bit of torrent packaging? It just doesn't make a damn bit of sense.

 

[Shawn Collins]

I was under the impression you went to college Shawn. Excusing the fact that he didn't actually commit a crime...

Yes, I went to college - the bearing here?

How did you deduce that he didn't commit a crime? True, he wasn't charged with a crime - that doesn't mean he didn't commit a crime.

The reality is that you have no idea about the details here. In ten years managing affiliate programs, I've never had an issue of this magnitude with another affiliate.

Let's just say he wasn't a choir boy.

Why would you blatantly try to destroy that opportunity for someone just because they did a little bit of torrent packaging? It just doesn't make a damn bit of sense.

You got me - he was just an innocent lamb that got railroaded. He didn't know it was wrong to attempt to steal tens of thousands of dollars.

And then to compound it by making threats to me and my family.

He's not responsibile at all for his fate. He was a good boy.

When you say "It just doesn't make a damn bit of sense," you are correct. Only knowing a fragment of the facts has a way of warping a story.

 

[pocketrockets]

Haha, oh the drama... it just never ends around here does it? 'Blastyourass' reminds me of an Entourage character (season #3) where the guys get a surprise visit from an obnoxious childhood friend who just got out of prison. This guy is loud, in your face with lots of "I don't give a fuck" attitude... anyone watch that episode?

Anyway, this thread is mis-labeled and never had anything to do with WF members but Blast spun it that way to get WF people behind him.

Jesus, some here act like Shawn ruined this kids life.... the stupid kid did it to himself! He used school property to commit fraud. For those that think Shawn should have contacted the police instead of contacting the school...... who do you think the police would have ended up contacting anyway??

The kid is lucky to only get a short-term suspension. That is NOT worse than having a criminal record.

 

[Deliguy]

Keep your details. If he actually committed a crime I'm sure you wouldn't of failed to mention it.

Do we need a checklist?
Distributing torrent file isn't a crime.
password protecting a zip file within that torrent isn't a crime.
Telling people to fill out an offer before getting the password, not a crime.
Producing a low to no value lead to an advertiser is not a crime.
Talking shit to you isn't a crime.
Breaking your TOS is not a crime.

Where is this fucking crime you speak of?

Secondly, whether or not the kid was wrong for what he did isn't even the issue we're having. Of course he was wrong. He shouldn't of done that. Hell he even deserved some major pay back. Its the payback you dished out is what I'm having a problem with. You can read back through the other posts in this thread to get the specifics of it, but the point is you were wrong for what you did. It was low. It was despicable. Your parents should be the ones ashamed.

 

[Concept]

Deliguy: 1
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[Shawn Collins]

Keep your details. If he actually committed a crime I'm sure you wouldn't of failed to mention it.

IANAL, but here's a definition of fraud from Wikipedia (Fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia):

In criminal law, fraud is the crime or offense of deliberately deceiving another in order to damage them – usually, to obtain property or services unjustly. [1] Fraud can be accomplished through the aid of forged objects. In the criminal law of common law jurisdictions it may be called "theft by deception," "larceny by trick," "larceny by fraud and deception" or something similar.

 

[Deliguy]

IANAL, but here's a definition of fraud from Wikipedia (Fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia):

In criminal law, fraud is the crime or offense of deliberately deceiving another in order to damage them – usually, to obtain property or services unjustly. [1] Fraud can be accomplished through the aid of forged objects. In the criminal law of common law jurisdictions it may be called "theft by deception," "larceny by trick," "larceny by fraud and deception" or something similar.

Check your GPS. You're now out in left field buddy. Come back and join society where we miss you and know what constitutes as fraud in court.

 

[ScottDaMan]

I've seen less drama on Jerry Springer!

You people have way too much fucking time on your hands.

 

[MyOwnDemon]

Time to get my sig in here

Hahaha. That was the best thing I've read in this thread so far. :rasta:

From what I understand, this incident happened back in 2001. So, the scammer kid got kicked out of college... but, fuck. That was six years ago. Hell, for all we know, he is a doctor by now.

I'm sure you guys would be pretty fuckin pissed off if someone scammed you for $50k. Then again, you'd also be pissed off if you got kicked out of college. There is no winning side here. No one is right and no one is wrong.

I think the kid AND Shawn are both fucking douchebags in their own way. But, overall, I think Jon should simply lock this thread.

The whole fucking thread reeks of a Catch-22.

 

[Deliguy]

I think the kid AND Shawn are both fucking douchebags in their own way. But, overall, I think Jon should simply lock this thread.

Thats the first sensible and logical statement I've heard in this thread.

I'm locking it, unless shawn has one last thing to add?