drove into a ditch tonight, cops came, had gun on me..

ly2 from WF said:
It doesn't really make sense to me to even possibly put my life in danger because of a law that says I can't carry a gun. The same way it never made sense to me that I wouldn't smoke weed because there was some "law" made up by some group of worthless fucks for an idiotic reason that says I wasn't allowed to. If I want to smoke weed, I am going to smoke weed. I'm not a slave and I have no master.

I don't really respect many laws because I don't respect the people who create them. The same way I wouldn't listen to my plumber if he told me I am no longer allowed to use the word "fuck". A plumber telling me I'm not allowed to do something has about as much weight as a politician telling me I'm not allowed to do something. With the exception of the IRS, I have always pretty much done exactly what I want.

Speed limit is 50mph? I'll go 50mph if that's what feels safe to me. But if 80mph feels safe, then that's what I'm going to do. I'm not going to do 150mph because I wouldn't feel safe doing it.

If they made murder legal tomorrow, I'm not going to go kill anyone because I'm not a fucking lunatic. On the other hand, if I was a lunatic and wanted to kill someone, I sure as fuck wouldn't be stopped by some silly imaginary rules that says I can't.

You guys may enjoy taking orders from old white men who dictate how you run your lives, I however, do not.

Has this mentality caused me problems? Fuck yea it has, but to me it's worth it. I'd rather live my own life how I want than to take orders from a bunch of politicians and cops whom I have no respect for.
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(1) "I'm not a slave and I have no master." ... You might rethink that one if you find yourself sitting in prison one day.

(2) Should everyone abide by *your* ethical and moral standards then? Or can everybody just say screw the law, I'm doing what I want. Should murderers and rapists who have the same mantra as you (i.e. "I'll to what I want and follow my own code of ethics...") be able to do what they want? Or at a certain point would you say "enough is enough" and create a system of laws to stop them from killing and raping? If you are picking and choosing what laws you agree with and what laws you do not agree with, then you should have no problem with OTHER people doing the same exact thing (even if their morals/ethics are totally fucked up and different than yours). If you DO have a problem with OTHER people doing the same thing (like a guy who feels he is entitled to rape women), then essentially you are no better than those "old white men" creating laws for you to follow, because you expect THEM to follow YOUR rules.
 


Why do you think it's smart to admit that you're a convicted felon illegally carrying a firearm on a public forum? Stop being a fucking idiot and get that felony expunged. Like schockergd said, it's expensive, but I am sure a baller like you can afford it.

Or perhaps you're just making this entire story up for attention.
 
lschmidt said:
(2) Should everyone abide by *your* ethical and moral standards then?
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Why should he adhere to yours?

Carrying a firearm for self-protection isn't on the same level as murder and rape. It's people like you, with your hyperbolic nonsense that makes society unlivable for decent, normal people who want to be left alone.

Save your judgments for someone who gives a shit.
 
ly2 from WF said:
With the exception of the IRS, I have always pretty much done exactly what I want.

Speed limit is 50mph? I'll go 50mph if that's what feels safe to me. But if 80mph feels safe, then that's what I'm going to do. I'm not going to do 150mph because I wouldn't feel safe doing it.
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84MdfAox0Y]The Simpsons - Do What You Feel - YouTube[/ame]
 
guerilla said:
Why should he adhere to yours?

Carrying a firearm for self-protection isn't on the same level as murder and rape. It's people like you, with your hyperbolic nonsense that makes society unlivable for decent, normal people who want to be left alone.

Save your judgments for someone who gives a shit.
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(1) People should not adhere to mine. I never said they should.
(2) "Carrying a firearm for self-protection isn't on the same level as murder and rape." -- I agree. Not sure what your point is though.
(3) "It's people like you, with your hyperbolic nonsense that makes society unlivable for decent, normal people who want to be left alone." -- What the fuck does this even mean?
(4) "Save your judgments for someone who gives a shit." -- You give a shit or you wouldn't have responded. Also try reading my post again, then read your response. You are the one passing judgements, not me.
 
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ly2 from WF said:
https://www.google.com/search?q=cap...aByAGS1ICYAw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1014&bih=669

These are legal for me to own?
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These are what i'm talking about.

Colt 1851 Navy Revolver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are many companies that make reproduction cap & ball revolvers. They're not actually considered firearms on the federal level, and because of that they're legal for anyone to own. Even in some states where firearms are nearly illegal, these are just fine to own. Heck, in most states it's legal to mail these back and forth without even declaring they are a firearm.

There are many types/calibers, but all are generally similar to modern firearms in terms of performance.

Some states (NY is one) does not permit these types of firearms to be owned by felons, but more states allow felons to own these than states that ban them. Talk to a attorney or do some research.
 
ly2 from WF said:
my car is a bit fucked up though, not too bad, maybe $2,000-$3,000 worth of damage.
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Did you pay the policemen, the firemen, the grader driver and the tow truck driver? Our statist society is quite convenient and nice sometimes when you need it, isn't it?
 
schockergd said:
Word of advice.


#1 - get that felony expunged, or otherwise ask for your right to own firearms back (Yes, this can be done, but it is expensive).

#2 - Get rid of the glock & buy a cap & ball BP revolver. These are legal for you as a felon to own, and will provide more than enough personal protection.
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Seriously? Weird, so you can own one of those, yet you can't have body armour? (Not passing any judgement on this particular situation, I have zero problems with anyone owning firearms when they're not a peasant - in Guerilla's sense of the word)
Kiopa_Matt said:
Then what? You're going to somehow pull out your hand gun, take the safety off, aim it properly, and shoot him, all while he's clawing and biting the shit out of you? Not likely.-
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No need to take the safety off if it's a Glock.
 
-joe- said:
Seriously? Weird, so you can own one of those, yet you can't have body armour? (Not passing any judgement on this particular situation, I have zero problems with anyone owning firearms when they're not a peasant - in Guerilla's sense of the word)

No need to take the safety off if it's a Glock.
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You can own body armor in the US. However many muncipalities have all sorts of rules and regulations about how it can be used.

Some states allow you to wear it, but no weapons. With a quick google, it seems that felons are not allowed to own or posses armor.

bluechinagroup said:
A revolver that fires a lead ball instead of a bullet that goes down a rifled barrel would be the perfect kind of firearm for a guy like ly2.
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They're quite decent weapons. Unfortunately a friend of my family's ended up on the wrong end of a 1850s colt revolver and was killed by a felon (Which is how I found out about the legalities about them).

I know many are making fun of Ly2 , but in reality bears, wolves, coyotes and cougars are a pretty decent threat in the United States. While grizzlies aren't common here in the 48, every police station in Alaska is armed to fight off all sorts of animals. Heck, they had a custom contract with Glock to supply them handguns that would be capable of killing grizzlies (Glock 20s) and most chose their firearms not based on lethality to humans, but to animals over 1,000 pounds.
 
schockergd said:
You can own body armor in the US. However many muncipalities have all sorts of rules and regulations about how it can be used.

Some states allow you to wear it, but no weapons. With a quick google, it seems that felons are not allowed to own or posses armor.
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Not with a felony, though, can you? I may be wrong.
 
johnmatrix said:
Did you pay the policemen, the firemen, the grader driver and the tow truck driver? Our statist society is quite convenient and nice sometimes when you need it, isn't it?
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I was going to leave the car there until the next day and the cop wouldn't allow me, actually. He forced me to wait for grader and have it towed the same night.

Furthermore, what are you getting at?

"Our statist society is quite convenient and nice sometimes when you need it, isn't it?"

They steal money from me every year, I guess that's kind of convenient for them, isn't it?

So yea, get your fucking asses out here and grade the road and take care of my situation. That's the LEAST they can do for me considering I'm one of the 50% of people who actually give and don't take form this piece of shit system.
 
"You might rethink that one if you find yourself sitting in prison one day."
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What did I say? It has caused me problems in the past and it may very well cause more in the future. But guess what? I don't really care. I'd rather live my life how I want and take the risk rather than live like a fucking faggot by some other mans rules, just to avoid maybe getting into trouble. Do you think a lion in a zoo would rather be in a zoo or out fucking female lions and killing shit on an African grassland? Sure, he can live twice as long in a captivity, but at what price? I'd rather live my life free and how I want, than to live it following some other idiots rules, just so I stay in line and out of trouble. If I lived my life like 90% of people in this country, I'd be miserable and depressed as fuck.

There are different kinds of people. Some people are happy to stay in line and follow rules that are given to them by people they have never met and never will meet. Some people say to themselves "Who the fuck is this guy and why in the hell should I follow his silly rules?". You want your life to be controlled by someone else and their rules, great, have at it.



"(2) Should everyone abide by *your* ethical and moral standards then? Or can everybody just say screw the law, I'm doing what I want. Should murderers and rapists who have the same mantra as you (i.e. "I'll to what I want and follow my own code of ethics...") be able to do what they want? Or at a certain point would you say "enough is enough" and create a system of laws to stop them from killing and raping? If you are picking and choosing what laws you agree with and what laws you do not agree with, then you should have no problem with OTHER people doing the same exact thing (even if their morals/ethics are totally fucked up and different than yours). If you DO have a problem with OTHER people doing the same thing (like a guy who feels he is entitled to rape women), then essentially you are no better than those "old white men" creating laws for you to follow, because you expect THEM to follow YOUR rules."
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I never said anyone should follow my ethics. I don't give a fuck who follows them or who agrees with them, I'm not asking for acceptance from anyone. I do me, and that's that. People can do their own shit. If someone wants to go rape bitches, then they're probably going to go rape some bitches. A law isn't going to stop the rape from happening just like the law isn't going to stop me from smoking weed or speeding. If you're sick enough to rape, then you're probably not going to give a fuck about some law that says you can't rape.

Like I said before about murder, if they made rape legal tomorrow, guess what? I ain't gonna be out raping bitches, because I'm not a sick maniac. Maybe you need those laws in place because otherwise you wouldn't be able to control yourself? I have no idea, nor do I really care.

Anyway, point is, I live my life for me. I don't live it to please you, the government, or anyone else. If anyone has a problem with the way I live my life then that's their fucking problem, not mine. If nanny government catches me doing something that I shouldn't be doing, then maybe I'll end up in jail. Won't be the first time and probably won't be the last. Regardless, I will be able to look at my face in the jail mirror and be OK with myself knowing that I didn't bend and conform to some idiotic rule that I don't agree with.

At the end of the day, I'm more interested in having respect for myself than I am having respect from a politician or law enforcement officer.
 
schockergd said:
I know many are making fun of Ly2 , but in reality bears, wolves, coyotes and cougars are a pretty decent threat in the United States. While grizzlies aren't common here in the 48, every police station in Alaska is armed to fight off all sorts of animals. Heck, they had a custom contract with Glock to supply them handguns that would be capable of killing grizzlies (Glock 20s) and most chose their firearms not based on lethality to humans, but to animals over 1,000 pounds.
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My girlfriend watches those stupid "i shouldn't be alive" shows. There is usually at least one story on each episode of someone who gets mauled by some wild animal while walking their dog or taking the trash out or hiking or whatever. I'd rather not risk it, last fucking thing I need is to get my face eaten off by a god damned bear or something.

And I highly doubt an animal is going to take .40 shots to the body or face and just keep attacking me. We aren't dealing with fucking elephants or hippos over here. And if we were, then I'd probably be driving around with a god damn rocket launcher instead of a .40.
 
ly2 from WF said:
Regardless, I will be able to look at my face in the jail mirror and be OK with myself knowing that I didn't bend and conform to some idiotic rule that I don't agree with.
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In prison I hear pretty white boys like you bend and conform all day. You'll be living by Bubba's rules at that point!

I'd rather follow the goverment's rules than bubba's butt sex rules.
 
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