F*ckin Arab Terrorists
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He wanted the press to hear about it.
Thanks avatar for providing the link.
My main argument is still:
While it is clad in religious gowns, a lot of the motivation is financial and pressure. Suicide bombers are recruited from the poorest of the poor. They are promised hope for their families in form of support and money from the organization. And they are threatened that if they FAIL to blow themselves up, they will be tortured and mutilated. (Yes, a lot of them do want to get out of it before the deed).
A lot of this has to do with the way the hereditary system works in these countries - the first born son gets everything. This leads to a load of young men without property, money or a way to make any (as the economy is often nonexistent), and thus not even a way to marry or find a woman - easy pickings for Al Quaida or any other organization.
This is also why laws of inheritance are important in a modern society.
It used to be the same in ancient Greece - they utilized these young men brutally to expand their state. Young men were pressed into service with the promise that they could - keep the land they conquered and keep the women.
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Thanks avatar for providing the link.
My main argument is still:
- Secularize the state (Turkey, for example is doing much better now - not great, they still have human rights violations and I would not want to live in a rural village as a woman, but it is getting better)
- Education, education, education - Somehow it seems that a lot of Americans don't get out of their country and / or their comfort zone. Staying in your hotel != travel. I was amazed when talking to people in Tadjikistan and Tunisia. Amazed at how friendly they are, how interested in world events and how brainwashed and uneducated they can be. Think NOT BEING ABLE TO READ. Literacy alone would lift a few countries some notches out of poverty. Remember the Christian reformation? People got a translated version of the bible and the mass in their language, not Latin - REVOLUTION!
While it is clad in religious gowns, a lot of the motivation is financial and pressure. Suicide bombers are recruited from the poorest of the poor. They are promised hope for their families in form of support and money from the organization. And they are threatened that if they FAIL to blow themselves up, they will be tortured and mutilated. (Yes, a lot of them do want to get out of it before the deed).
A lot of this has to do with the way the hereditary system works in these countries - the first born son gets everything. This leads to a load of young men without property, money or a way to make any (as the economy is often nonexistent), and thus not even a way to marry or find a woman - easy pickings for Al Quaida or any other organization.
This is also why laws of inheritance are important in a modern society.
It used to be the same in ancient Greece - they utilized these young men brutally to expand their state. Young men were pressed into service with the promise that they could - keep the land they conquered and keep the women.
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Yo... I was raised Jewish... And I will say.... That some definitely fit the hard-core Jew stereotype. others you don't even know they're Jewish and the state how you.
For the ones that fit the stereotype... I can't handle being around them ( even though they are part of my family ). they're unbelievably condescending and think they're better than everyone. It's an embarrassment ( see attached photo )
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you know I wouldn't have a problem with Muslims/Islam... If I had not personally witnessed them celebrating in my city after the attacks on 9/11.
Seriously a cop friend of mine I was hanging out with ( not that I really want to admit that I hang out with the cop but he was my friend before he became a cop ). we're just hanging around watching the TV over and over again the towers going down. He gets a call for some backup at the local university here.
When we get on campus to one of the main parking lots... We find hundreds of people celebrating and sharing... And of course it was all Arab looking people. Until that moment I had never had a problem with any race or religion. But for these bastards to celebrate death of anyone was absolutely criminal.
Seriously they were dancing around singing songs and burning the flag. A few of the big ass fraternities had come up and beat the fuck out of them. and that's why my friend was called for backup.
There were also celebrations around the world in Islamic countries ( as far as we know according to the media ). so it's like how do you tell the difference between who's a terrorist/extremist... And who is just caught in the middle having had nothing to do with it... And being as disgusted with it as I was.
Ultimately, I don't think it's appropriate for them to constantly hide behind statements such as "oh it's just the extremists "... well get with your extremist buddies and let them know that you're making us all look bad. They are making Islam look very bad for the rest of them. I guess they kind of need to police their own people.
Seriously, when you take a look at the world's religions... Islam ( or what we have been led to be Islam by the media ) is one of the only religions that openly commit acts of terrorism.
Yes we have our own problems here but you don't see Christians or Jews or any other religion regularly taking on acts of mass violence.
Even more contradictory is that Muslims kill other Muslims because they are Shia or Sunni. They actually burn each other in the streets alive... I saw live pictures of this on CNN. No other religion exhibits this scale of violence.
Shit... didn't mean for this to get so long I guess I've got a big opinion about it sorry.
Seriously a cop friend of mine I was hanging out with ( not that I really want to admit that I hang out with the cop but he was my friend before he became a cop ). we're just hanging around watching the TV over and over again the towers going down. He gets a call for some backup at the local university here.
When we get on campus to one of the main parking lots... We find hundreds of people celebrating and sharing... And of course it was all Arab looking people. Until that moment I had never had a problem with any race or religion. But for these bastards to celebrate death of anyone was absolutely criminal.
Seriously they were dancing around singing songs and burning the flag. A few of the big ass fraternities had come up and beat the fuck out of them. and that's why my friend was called for backup.
There were also celebrations around the world in Islamic countries ( as far as we know according to the media ). so it's like how do you tell the difference between who's a terrorist/extremist... And who is just caught in the middle having had nothing to do with it... And being as disgusted with it as I was.
Ultimately, I don't think it's appropriate for them to constantly hide behind statements such as "oh it's just the extremists "... well get with your extremist buddies and let them know that you're making us all look bad. They are making Islam look very bad for the rest of them. I guess they kind of need to police their own people.
Seriously, when you take a look at the world's religions... Islam ( or what we have been led to be Islam by the media ) is one of the only religions that openly commit acts of terrorism.
Yes we have our own problems here but you don't see Christians or Jews or any other religion regularly taking on acts of mass violence.
Even more contradictory is that Muslims kill other Muslims because they are Shia or Sunni. They actually burn each other in the streets alive... I saw live pictures of this on CNN. No other religion exhibits this scale of violence.
Shit... didn't mean for this to get so long I guess I've got a big opinion about it sorry.
^Where was that Celebration? I would think that if it happened on US soil there would be a firing squad involved. (Or should have been.)
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I agree with you for the most part. However, most of the 9/11 bombers came from well-to-do families. Also, the Times Square bomber came from a wealthy and well educated family. He had a decent job as well.
Outside US, mostly poor people become suicide bombers. Education and financial security will be enough to deter a vast majority of them, as you said.
Inside US, people do not turn to terrorism because of lack of money or lack of education. At least, that is what it seems to be, from the limited data we have so far.
Nobody does what the Koran says. They interpret the Koran.
If they can find a way to justify the interpretation as "kill the infidels today", they will do so.
Otherwise, they will interpret it as "A rule that was appropriate in its time, but now, we're doing too well to commit murder."
Then they should shove that god damned book on a shelf and stop reading it!
-I haven't read a Cassette Tape players' instructions since 19-fuckin-80. How long has their instruction manual been out of date???
They could at least come up with a new instruction manual that makes some sort of sense.
It's like using the instructions for a horse-drawn buggy for their new Audi. -Replace that shit!
It's like using the instructions for a horse-drawn buggy for their new Audi. -Replace that shit!