FED AUDIT: $16,000,000,000,000.00 (TRILLION) AID REPORT

Oh, this party isn't over yet.

Are you some sort of global economic wizard, or do you just watch CNBC? Yes, the U.S. is going to see some sort of double-dip recession, the EURO is going to see a significant recession, and China's economy is seeing a major slowdown. But I don't expect to see bread and soup lines cropping up anytime soon.
 


I'm not sure how that makes everything ok. Of course none of the toxic assets like TARP (included in this doc) and the creative llc shenanigans are accounted for on you two's version of a balance sheet.

TARP was a treasury program... why would it be part of an audit of the Fed?

And, as far as TARP goes, the CBO as of last year has the estimated cost at just $25 billion.


Seriously guys, take off the blinders, you're rooting for the wrong team

Personally, I'm not rooting for any teams... more just trying understand things a bit better, and maybe help others do the same. It's fun to get the pitchforks out and get all riled up over $16,000,000,000,000 (look at all the zeros!) in free monies to those greedy bankers, but really, is that useful? To get all pissed off over things that are clearly being misunderstood or misrepresented?

I'm not saying I know better, but just a cursory read of the audit report shows the OP to be full of bogus claims that seem designed just to get people angry and fuel support for the anti-government narrative that is so popular around here. Not that I'm hugely pro-state (it has its uses), but IMO it doesn't help anything to promote ignorant attitudes based on wrong information. The OP is either being intentionally misleading, or just ignorant.
 
TARP was a treasury program... why would it be part of an audit of the Fed?

And, as far as TARP goes, the CBO as of last year has the estimated cost at just $25 billion.

TARP money has to come from somewhere, and it happened during the time period the audit was limited to.

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TARP got quite a few pages attributing it

audit said:
The program (tarp) was closed to new investments on December 31, 2009, and, in total, Treasury invested $205 billion in 707 financial institutions over the life of the program.

The OP is either being intentionally misleading, or just ignorant.

As "creative" as the title description is and 30 day worth of 1 loan = 30 loans ... this is all creative accounting stuff.

The truth is, this same creative accounting is the basis for our society. Wool over sheep's eyes. It's easy to leave something like 30x1 loans as low hanging fruit to show how "it really isn't that bad" .... the truth is much worse as hellblazer will soon be showing.

but really, is that useful? To get all pissed off over things that are clearly being misunderstood or misrepresented?
The other option is that I stay quiet and FED = knight in shining armour for /saving/ us from ourselves and the doom we created because we're just stupid peasants. How does that feces taste?
 
The other option is that I stay quiet and FED = knight in shining armour for /saving/ us from ourselves and the doom we created because we're just stupid peasants. How does that feces taste?

I'll put it this way: if your message is full of outrage based on easily debunked information, you damage your credibility and the credibility of your message. You want people to listen, don't base your message on bullshit.
 
Here is a better question..............

Why does a bank need to borrow and pay back 10 billion every day? Point?
 
Here is a better question..............

Why does a bank need to borrow and pay back 10 billion every day? Point?

This is a fairly common practice in the Repo-Markets. Basically, it's how banks can get short-term loan of cash by offering securities as collateral. The banks then agree to re-purchase the securities at a later data, usually 1-7 days later.

The conditions in the repo-market deteriorated during 2008, so the Federal Reserve stepped in as the buyer of these repurchase agreements. That's how we got the PDFC, which is what shows up in this document as 1-day loans of, let's say 10 bill.
 
I think the overnight market wiki entry explained it pretty well. Basically, banks estimate how much money they'll need throughout the day to service their clients' liquidity needs, and if they predict they'll need more they get an overnight loan. If they've got a surplus, they put it on the overnight market and make a small % off it.
 
I'll put it this way: if your message is full of outrage based on easily debunked information, you damage your credibility and the credibility of your message. You want people to listen, don't base your message on bullshit.

the only thing "easily debunked" that was stated in this thread were disclosed, exactly as stated, in the audit on the fed presented ... If there was accounting magic that happened behind a portion of these dollar figures, that's not discrediting my side of the argument.

Rage ... check
debunk ... uncheck
 
Unemployment from the '29 stock crash increased from mid 5s to mid 9s. Smoot Hawley increased the Mid 9s to low 20s.
Right. A lot of people talk about the Depression, but they rely on what they learned in school, or civic myths about cause and effect.

Real unemployment in the US by the same measuring stick used in the Depression is at Depression levels. That's stone cold fact.

This is not a recession. Recessions have an end. They are the necessary correction phase for a period of unsustainable credit expansion.

The regulatory and debt environment in the US is such a long term drag on growth, that even once credit is destroyed, as much as it can be with the FED protecting bad debt, where are the jobs supposed to come from?

New businesses create almost all of the new net jobs. Businesses over 5 years old typically do not change their employment structure significantly as they have figured out an overhead model that works for them.

Personally, I think everything the FED does is malfeasance. There is no need for central economic planning with regards to interest rates comrades.

As Mises once wrote (paraphrasing), "Every intervention leads to the next crisis." And that is the history of central banking in the 20th and 21st centuries.
 
"I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt."

-Thomas Jefferson
 
THE TEN MEMBER BANKS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE
All owned by the Rothschilds
Rothschild Bank of London
Warburg Bank of Hamburg
Rothschild Bank of Berlin
Lehman Brothers of New York
Lazard Brothers of Paris
Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
Goldman, Sachs of New York
Warburg Bank of Amsterdam
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

source:http://www.scionofzion.com/federalreserve.htm
 
This is how I see it.

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#OccupyWallStreet anyone?