Fluoride thread

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lukep

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We haven't had a good fluoride thread here since well before my time, and it's a shame because most of you poor bastards are drinking that shit, which is still added to every city's water supply in the 1st world... Except Alberquerque, NM... They aren't having it anymore starting last year.

(I think living so near Roswell made those folks a bit more suspicious than most.)

Anyway, a new study was done by the NIH recently that shows a extremely high correlation between fluoridated water and kids with brain damage & low IQs.

Here's the crux of it:
Findings from our meta-analyses of 27 studies published over 22 years suggest an inverse association between high fluoride exposure and children's intelligence ... The results suggest that fluoride may be a developmental neurotoxicant that affects brain development at exposures much below those that can cause toxicity in adults.
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It's not a consensus yet, but there are tons of studies out there showing a link between fluoride and mental retardation of some kind... So many that it's starting to look suspicious, as if it has always been some some sort of NWO decree to fluoridate everywhere, in order to keep the sheeple stupid.

Anyway, Huffpo did an article on this that you don't need to bother reading, but here's the infographic they published and it's a pretty damning case against the future prospects of fluoride in your kids' water supply:

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Keep in mind that fluoridation only started in Grand Rapids, Michigan, first test in January 25, 1945. I wouldn't claim that the dentist who came up with the idea was in on any kind of conspiracy, but surely in the following half century enough tests would have shown the top politicians of the day that people were being made more stupid from it.

So whaddayougais think? Did some evil bastards want a dumbed-down populace and conspire to keep these results down until now? Or was it just all an honest mistake?
 


skype chat from earlier today:

lukep: Cam?
g1c9: Yes, lukep?
lukep: Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
g1c9: Well, I can't say I have, lukep.
lukep: Vodka, that's what they drink, isn't it? Never water?
g1c9: Well, I-I believe that's what they drink, lukep, yes.
lukep: On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.
g1c9: Oh, eh, yes. I, uhm, can't quite see what you're getting at, lukep.
lukep: Water, that's what I'm getting at, water. Cam, water is the source of all life. Seven-tenths of this Earth's surface is water. Why, do you realize that 70 percent of you is water?
g1c9: Good Lord!
lukep: And as human beings, you and I need fresh, pure water to replenish our precious bodily fluids.
g1c9: Yes.
lukep: Are you beginning to understand?
g1c9: Yes.
lukep: Cam, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure-grain alcohol?
g1c9: Well, it did occur to me, lukep, yes.
lukep: Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation. Fluoridation of water?
g1c9: Uh? Yes, I-I have heard of that, lukep, yes. Yes.
lukep: Well, do you know what it is?
g1c9: No, no I don't know what it is, no.
lukep: Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?
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moar:

lukep: Cam, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Cam, children's ice cream.
g1c9: Lord, lukep.
lukep: You know when fluoridation first began?
g1c9: I... no, no. I don't, lukep.
lukep: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. 1946, Cam. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
g1c9: Uh, lukep, lukep, listen... tell me, tell me, lukep. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?
lukep: Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Cam, during the physical act of love.
g1c9: Hmm.
lukep: Yes, a uh, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I... I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.
g1c9: Hmm.
lukep: I can assure you it has not recurred, Cam. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Cam.
g1c9: No.
lukep: But I... I do deny them my essence.
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........... Fact: The National Socialists used to put Fluoride in the water in the camps. Why you ask? Because it made the juice easier to control. Since they are now the victors and control both our government and media, they are returning the favor.

The jokes on them though, my shit either comes from a well or is vapor distilled.

And no, it didnt start 1/25/45.

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It's kinda hard to get kids to drink water these days, especially tap water:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P43VjgwjK4]VOSS Water PPL in movie - YouTube[/ame]

Some places go heavy on the chlorine, so the tap water is about the same as pool water. Unfortunately, it's either pool water, or you're drinking someone's raw piss.
 
Glad to see a few knowledgeable & conscious people on here who are wide awake about some of the extremely corrupt issues happening here on Planet Earth & it's inhabitants. Sad, how the general masses of sheep don't notice. There is a real _____ & hidden / silent agenda of deliberately dumbing down of people to enslave humanity & keep them passive. A real diversion from the bigger issues & bigger picture. One way is putting in dangerous & harmful chemicals in everyday products. Ingredients & Corrupt stuff include :



- High fructose corn syrup, Aspertame, Arsenic, etc (unbelievable how big evil corporations get away with this & their products to the masses, plus it's also disguised under many other names), UCLA Study : Check out this interesting 2012 experiment done on rats & the shocking results.

- Monosodium Glutamate (Fun fact : Not only in chinese food but a lot more common than people think. Chick Fil A is suppose to be super religious christian company who does only good, but they poison the masses with MSG, an excitoxin, and has Anti-foaming chemicals, high fructose corn syrup, etc). KFC does it too. Google it for proof & evidence. The truth is scary alright. They too, are big offenders along with the rest of the big, evil corporate fast food chains adding harmful additives to the food for the sake of making $ and trying to keep customers coming back for more.

- Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs) & Monsanto. (Fun fact : One of Whole Foods, the suppose mostly organic grocery store, has GMO's and the place isn't as healthy as it seems. Only thing Monsanto cares about is $$$ & PROFIT. Sad, they have a lot of power, funding, and stopped Prop 37 from passing, easily) (Fun fact #2 : Chipotle's beans are only 40% organic and contain GMO. If you wanted an pure 100% organic burrito at Chipotle, it'd probably be over $10-$15! Their food isn't even as healthy as people think and has ridiculous high amounts of sodium.)

- Vaccines. A lot more bad ones then good ones out there. Contains ingredients like Aluminum, Antibiotics, Formaldehyde, Monosodium Glutamate (MSG), Thimerosal, Mercury, etc. Doctors say it's good for you and not to worry ! /sarcasm. Known to cause damage in the long run. Autism rates have skyrocketed over the recent years. Doctors, psychiatrists, big pharma, etc pushes them hard because they want to make sales and extract lots of $$$ from people.

- Prescription drugs - A doctor or psychiatrist will rarely ever say no. The goal is to always write a script, and makes sales. Sometimes includes lying & misdiagnosing. Prescription drugs : The ultimate residual passive income :p & monthly repeat, loyal customers. What evil geniuses ! Everybody knows Medical marijuana cards are a piece of cake to get. Can lie & make up great excuses like backpain & insomnia. Pretty insane how wildy popular Oxycontin, Antidepressants, & ADHD drugs are too. I personally enjoy amphetamines & Vyvanse once in rare while, in moderation, for studying / work purposes.

- Etc. The list goes on. No conspiracy theories here, just all shocking FACTS. Proof & Evidence is just researches away. Books, internet, & search engines. Stay awake, be educated, and informed.



Drifting off. Back on the fluoride topic : Known all this fluoride stuff already for awhile. Plus It's general knowledge, Adolf Hitler put fluoride into the water supply to control the jews, to keep them weak, toxic sedated, passive, and easily controllable. Lukep, do you use a water purifer machine that gets helps get rid of most or all fluoride. What do you recommend? I want to buy one eventually, but they're crazy expensive. Huge health enthusiast, vitamins / supplements, organic, and juicer person here.
 
So much shit in tap water, my whole family drinks distilled water. Once you get used to distilled water you don't wanna go back to tap or filtered water. Got some of my friends on distilled water too. Also we only use non fluoride toothpaste.
 
Distilled water only drinker checking in. Now, to find a solution for my shower water...
 
Surferjock87 said:
Glad to see a few knowledgeable & conscious people on here who are wide awake about some of the extremely corrupt issues happening here on Planet Earth & it's inhabitants. Sad, how the general masses of sheep don't notice. There is a real _____ & hidden / silent agenda of deliberately dumbing down of people to enslave humanity & keep them passive. A real diversion from the bigger issues & bigger picture. One way is putting in dangerous & harmful chemicals in everyday products. Ingredients & Corrupt stuff include :


[...]

- Etc. The list goes on. No conspiracy theories here, just all shocking FACTS. Proof & Evidence is just researches away. Books, internet, & search engines. Stay awake, be educated, and informed.



Drifting off. Back on the fluoride topic : Known all this fluoride stuff already for awhile. Plus It's general knowledge, Adolf Hitler put fluoride into the water supply to control the jews, to keep them weak, toxic sedated, passive, and easily controllable. Lukep, do you use a water purifer machine that gets helps get rid of most or all fluoride. What do you recommend? I want to buy one eventually, but they're crazy expensive. Huge health enthusiast, vitamins / supplements, organic, and juicer person here.
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Damn dude, you make some decent points in the [...] part, but you fuck it all up with your first and last paragraphs.

Not everything fucked up in the world has to be caused by some highly-coordinated mass conspiracy, you even write about it yourself- companies put chemicals in the foods to get better profits. All foods are perishable at some point. They know if they can do something to keep the product on the shelf a few more days, they can sell more. Some ingredients are expensive, which is why these companies search out cheaper and possibly less healthy alternatives. It is why the good stuff costs more.

Show me how the Hitler stuff is "general knowledge" . You can keep people "weak, toxic sedated, passive, and easily controllable" by fucking starving them.
 
mattseh said:
I have had a revelation. There is literally nothing to gain by arguing with conspiracy theorists.
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SGROH Chapter 7

Achievements in Public Health, 1900-1999: Fluoridation of Drinking Water to Prevent Dental Caries

Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium, Phosphorus, Magnesium, Vitamin D, and Fluoride

Systematic & Evidence-Based Reviews - Safety - Community Water Fluoridation - Oral Health

People that are drinking distilled water incidentally are stupid. There's tons of minerals you get from drinking water that are important. At least if you're going to boycott tap water, do yourself a favour and drink bottled water.

Although saying that, bottled water contains estrogen like compounds anyway, so you're still fucked (or at least your sperm count is).

Some of these threads, I don't even... Do you even chemistry?

The studies showing a high link between fluoride and brain damage are all about fluoride in excess, miles beyond what you get in drinking water.

The risk to kids of fluoride exposure ends at age 8, and is most important ages 1-4.

You do know that most kids that have problems with fluoride exposure are the ones swallowing toothpaste, right? That's because the levels in toothpaste are many, many times higher than drinking water, to the extent the drinking water becomes irrelevant.

Of course, fluoride is the main active ingredient in toothpaste, and studies have been done that show toothpaste is effectively useless without it.

If we didn't have fluoride in our water and toothpaste, we'd all have seriously fucked up teeth by the age of 30.

If you want to stop your kids getting brain damaged by fluoride, don't stop their exposure altogether potentially screwing up their dental health for life, but educate them. Teach them it's important not to swallow their toothpaste, like most good parents do.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11683551 said:
Fluoride, particularly in toothpastes, is a very important preventive agent against dental caries. Toothbrushing without fluorides has little effect on caries. As additional fluoride to that currently available in toothpaste does not appear to be benefiting the teeth of the majority of people, the main strategy to further reduce the levels of caries, is reducing the frequency of sugars intakes in the diet.
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Although, perhaps Obama has infiltrated University College London, and they're all in on the conspiracy and just re-distributing propaganda for him in exchange for kickbacks.
 
Surferjock87 said:
Known to cause damage in the long run.
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How so? Even according to biased article you linked to :

"What's the cumulative effect of all these vaccines, plus the mercury from dental fillings and dietary sources?

Scientists don't know that answer because such studies have never been conducted."



Autism rates have skyrocketed over the recent years.
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Correlation is not necessarily causation, yada yada.. Not too many years ago, nobody used the word "autism." You had kids that were obviously mentally retarded, and anyone else with an issue was just thought of as weird or whatever. Teachers and medical people eventually became more and more informed about autism, ADD, depression, etc. They are now way more aggresive than ever before about diagnosing kids with those type of things.
 
mituozo said:
SGROH Chapter 7

Achievements in Public Health, 1900-1999: Fluoridation of Drinking Water to Prevent Dental Caries

Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium, Phosphorus, Magnesium, Vitamin D, and Fluoride

Systematic & Evidence-Based Reviews - Safety - Community Water Fluoridation - Oral Health

People that are drinking distilled water incidentally are stupid. There's tons of minerals you get from drinking water that are important. At least if you're going to boycott tap water, do yourself a favour and drink bottled water.

Although saying that, bottled water contains estrogen like compounds anyway, so you're still fucked (or at least your sperm count is).

Some of these threads, I don't even... Do you even chemistry?

The studies showing a high link between fluoride and brain damage are all about fluoride in excess, miles beyond what you get in drinking water.

The risk to kids of fluoride exposure ends at age 8, and is most important ages 1-4.

You do know that most kids that have problems with fluoride exposure are the ones swallowing toothpaste, right? That's because the levels in toothpaste are many, many times higher than drinking water, to the extent the drinking water becomes irrelevant.

Of course, fluoride is the main active ingredient in toothpaste, and studies have been done that show toothpaste is effectively useless without it.

If we didn't have fluoride in our water and toothpaste, we'd all have seriously fucked up teeth by the age of 30.

If you want to stop your kids getting brain damaged by fluoride, don't stop their exposure altogether potentially screwing up their dental health for life, but educate them. Teach them it's important not to swallow their toothpaste, like most good parents do.



Although, perhaps Obama has infiltrated University College London, and they're all in on the conspiracy and just re-distributing propaganda for him in exchange for kickbacks.
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Are you really trying to convince me that 99.9% pure distilled water is somehow bad for me? You only get about 2% of your minerals from drinking water, most of it comes from food. How dumb and misinformed are you?

Explain why people that don't brush their teeth never get cavities if having fluoride is the only reason your teeth don't turn black and fall out. You're hilarious dude.

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Let me guess, you're fine with drinking Chlorine too?
 
lcver said:
The chemical is still absorbed through the pores of the skin.
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I used to have a filter on my shower but it slowed the strength of the water loads. Ended up taking it off. I still have a filter on for my kids in the other bathroom though.
 
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