Friend getting mixed up in the quixtar pyramid scheme

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You need to be at the top of the food chain to make real money.
Most times you gottta hawk overpriced shit products to your family and friends or buy the shit yourself.

You gotta recruit new people into the "opportunity".

You figure that you can simply recruit people and they'll do all the selling.
The problem is that everybody you recruit figures the same thing.



There are wayyy easier ways to make money in this world..
 


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johnmatrix said:
I have a friend who has joined 2 MLM schemes... first one was some phone company endorsed by donald trump called ACN, second is 'my berry tree'. The guy just wont learn!!
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Ya I had a friend try to get me into this. The sold video phones or some shit lol. Of course I nor anyone else have ever seen their products.

My friend was making ok bank. He got a car out of it and some other shit. But again he was pretty far up the pyramid in our area apparently.
 
kimboslice said:
You need to be at the top of the food chain to make real money.
Most times you gottta hawk overpriced shit products to your family and friends or buy the shit yourself.

You gotta recruit new people into the "opportunity".

You figure that you can simply recruit people and they'll do all the selling.
The problem is that everybody you recruit figures the same thing.

There are wayyy easier ways to make money in this world..
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The alleged Monavie Scam ? works well because they defer the cost, the spin they use is, oh well, you don't *have* to buy any product and you can still sign people up to your tree. Only buy the product when you want to cash out your commissions (although I think you have to buy at least once, so some cash bubbles up the pyramid).

Alleged Scams like Monavie can be particularly evil in that they rely on people also passing this onto family and friends.

I think people draw comparisons to affiliate marketing because of the get rick quick type scams that are lumped in with AM. The reality of course is very different.

I don't expect two of my three friends to make any money and in the end it'll cost them.

These things pray on the worst traits of human personalities, the desired for the easier life and the quick fix.
 
My experience with MLM's.

Quixtar - Had someone come into the office looking for a consultation on their "website" and it was just a shitty quixtar presentation ... fucking laptop was all ghetto with a crack in it... they were definitely on the bottom rung.

ACN - Friend dropped $500 on their bullshit, and immediately got another friend to drop $500 on it. The rest of us had a great laugh at their expense.

Vector Marketing - Cutco Sat through one of their bullshit marketing seminars, and at the time didn't really know what was going on. Funny as shit cause in the middle some old man just yelled out "THEY SELL KNIVES" and left.

Up until that point it was all "hype" speech and someone said "we don't sell knives" when that happened. Uh, no asshole, you do sell knives.

I guess Vector marketing isn't so much of an MLM as it is a shitty was to sell products... by preying the pity of your friends and family.



Arbonne and Mary Kay are MLM's too
 
Back in the mid 90's a friend dragged me to an Amway type product demo at his house. The guy doing the demo was trying to get us to sign up by showing us some cleaning liquid that was supposed to clean stains from all surfaces. So he squirted some ketchup on the freshly painted white wall and tried to clean it. Of course it didn't work. It was friggin hilarious! The stain just got bigger and bigger as he tried to get it off. Still makes me laugh.
 
Rascagua said:
theres some lame shit called Monavie that is similar. anyone heard of it?
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yea, that shit is whack! A chick who used to work in my office tried to hawk that shit to all of us, she just asked if we wanted to try it and then spewed out all these great benefits so we all decied to try it. Once she showed up with it, she told us that it was $45 a bottle. Fuck that! I hate pyramids and things of the like
 
Lickity_Split said:
yea, that shit is whack! A chick who used to work in my office tried to hawk that shit to all of us, she just asked if we wanted to try it and then spewed out all these great benefits so we all decied to try it. Once she showed up with it, she told us that it was $45 a bottle. Fuck that! I hate pyramids and things of the like
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That's awesome, yeah the monavie pyramid requires each person in the pyramid to be "active" which requires them to purchase the monavie @ $160 per month, the company keeps 50% and the remainder is distributed through the pyramid.

It's quite a scheme the monavie scam people have going, not that it's been proven a "scam" yet, just a regular pyramid scheme.

I'm suprised the feds don't crack down on this shit. I hate seeing my friends suckered by this.
 
Lickity_Split said:
yea, that shit is whack! A chick who used to work in my office tried to hawk that shit to all of us, she just asked if we wanted to try it and then spewed out all these great benefits so we all decied to try it. Once she showed up with it, she told us that it was $45 a bottle. Fuck that! I hate pyramids and things of the like
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LOL @ $45 for a bottle of grape juice
 
My roommate in college joined a Dojo that was apparently struggling financially. So the sensei joined up with one of those multi-vitamin scams and convinced his students to come to a meeting.

Friend asked me to come along to support the sensei after I argued with him for a couple hours. His argument was that it was no less evil or unsustainable than any other business. How can you argue with someone who actually believes that?

At the meeting they had some blue-light they wanted to shine on everyone's hand to determine the "mineral content" or whatever. Beforehand they had you fill out a questionaire on whether or not you work out, take vitamins, etc. At the time I was in b-school, so I drank too much, never did cardio, smoked, ate irregularly, etc. Got the lowest questionaire score at the meeting.

When they put the blue light on me I got the highest "reading" of anyone. I kept exclaiming loudly that it was amazing that someone who did so little for their health would be so far ahead of even the average person taking the pills. I think i said something like, "It's almost like the little machine is just generating random numbers or something!"

Friend had to get me out of there so that his sensei wouldn't be mad at him. Finally when we got back to the house he said something like, "yeah, i guess it is kind of a scam."
 
I guess his ninja intuition really let him down :(

They are still doing gay little tests and stuff nowadays. They had one of the guys take a shot of regular water, and then did some balance and flexibility test. Then they had him take a shot of super duper oxygenated perfect water and did it again.

Later on that night I found a pdf of what they give to the guys running the meeting and how to make the test seem real. Sent it to my friend and never heard back.
 
Thankfully the monavie scam doesn't seem to have filtered down under yet... But we've still got some going, and I've got plenty of friends who've fallen for them.
Hell, even my dad fell for Emu farms back in '95.

I do have one friend that's not doing too badly in this, but she's an Avon Lady... which actually seems fairly legit.
Also, being really hot, she manages to sell cosmetics pretty easily (she's gone for the metrosexual market).

But I can see why people would go in for MLM... The concept of being able to work less because you're getting a commission off other people's back. Sounds just like being an affiliate manager *cough*

Deliguy: They did that one at my highschool too. Was even weirder seeing as how it was an all guy's school. Whilst it was definitely a scam, the guy doing it was at least a decent photographer, so some of the guys DID have nice folios at the end of it, even if they paid about 10x the going rate for folio photography.
But no, none of them ever got work, and only one ever got a job... it was a K-mart clothing model.
 
Here's another one: Primerica

I had some dickhead I used to work with try to sign me up for this.

Read some of the testimonials about them on rip off report.com they are hilarious.

"people screaming hallelujah in meetings" "Some of them were crying" LOL
 
I've been reading the Rich Dad books (which are great books btw) but anyway they keep suggesting everyone start up in a network marketing/MLM marketing business which is rather annoying. Otherwise the books are great except he repeats the same concepts over and over, but that can be good to make sure you get them.

Otherwise I haven't had any contact with a MLM company but they sound pretty lame. I suppose if you wanted to learn to sell things and AM wasn't around...
 
LotsOfZeros said:
Is that why I see all those damn 'I Love Alpacas' commercials on late night TV? I was wondering what the hell those were on TV for. Guess it's the same song and dance with a different partner.
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Haven't seen anything on the alpacas on TV - heck, I don't even get the emu reference... guess I'll be googling that too. But I was reading about alpacas a few months ago on wikipedia and i remembered a line that said the alpaca market was a speculative bubble. It's since been removed from the wiki! Funny.

Here's a NYT article about them. Spend around $20k for an annual return of $80 - HA! Pump and dump!!!
 
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kingfish said:
I've been reading the Rich Dad books (which are great books btw) but anyway they keep suggesting everyone start up in a network marketing/MLM marketing business which is rather annoying. Otherwise the books are great except he repeats the same concepts over and over, but that can be good to make sure you get them.

Otherwise I haven't had any contact with a MLM company but they sound pretty lame. I suppose if you wanted to learn to sell things and AM wasn't around...
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You serious, they're recommending potential monavie scam type stuff ? When I read one of those books it didn't seem like that at all, which one were you reading, the original ? The only thing I seem to recall was real-estate and of course the whole pay yourself first deal (and form a corporation to bring down your taxes and so on).

Still, things like monavie are very dangerous for the stupid, I just can't believe they would outright recommend pyramid schemes.
 
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