Friend getting mixed up in the quixtar pyramid scheme

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Yeah recently my girlfriend has been talking about signing up with some company called Beauti Control. Similar to the Mary Kary business I guess, except they do "spa parties" and sell spa type accessories to all the girls at the spa party. The catch is, they are super duper expensive, but if they sign up as consultants they get big discounts. I haven't heard too much about them but I know they put a promotional video on YouTube with girls rapping a song with the following hook: "Cars, Money, Friendship, Bling and Travel!"

...They removed it after it got torn apart in the comments. Luckily, someone else captured it before they deleted it and then re-uploaded it to YouTube. Enjoy.

YouTube - "Cars, Money, Friendship, Bling and Travel!"
 


I hate pyramids, but the people at the top do get paid well.

I have an aunt and uncle that have done Amway for as long as I can remember. They are still not rich. My parents let their friends convince them to try some stupid Excel long distance phone service pyramid many years ago also.

This is the home of a guy that owns multiple pyramids.....

http://www.humphreyestate.com
 
Barman: Yeahhhhh... and that's why I have no respect for him (It's not a one off, he just keeps doing dumb shit like that)

sniperryan:You'd be amazed at how much crap on the Simpson's is for real. That big can of Foster's in the Australian episode, you used to be able to get those. Although we don't call bullfrogs "Chuzzwazzah's"... And we've had electricity longer than 30 years... It's been more like 38...

radio: The concept was that you bought an emu egg for a couple of hundred bucks, they'd raise it etc etc ,and in the end you'd end up with an emu worth about $8k-$12k that you could sell off on the international market OR you could keep it alive, and sell the eggs to your friends, with the farm taking a cut of the sale.
The thing is that it takes emus a while to reach maturity, they don't breed all that fast, and... oh yeah... there were no fucking eggs!!! No one went out to check for them either, because who in their right mind would drive into the middle of some of the most inhospitable land on the planet to check that a long term investment actually existed?
 
HarveyJ said:
But I can see why people would go in for MLM... The concept of being able to work less because you're getting a commission off other people's back. Sounds just like being an affiliate manager *cough*
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I think the funniest part of this whole deal is how close this is to what most of us actually do. For some reason people just can't connect those last couple dots to figure it out. I guess it's because someone is holding their hand down the long winding road of promises.
 
I have a friend in ACN and the stupid shit is that of course all offerings in that category are available through free affiliate programs ( that I even helped set him up with) that pay much better and are better quality and value.

Why would I pay $500 to be able to sell a product that i'm actually forbidden to sell to anyone I don't know and get like a 50 cent commission when I can sell the same offer to millions of strangers and get paid 100 times as much.

It's ALL about the recruiting and scamming people out of 500 bucks.

There are a couple MLM companies or companies that had MLM roots that are decent but 99% of the shit is a scam and should definitely fail the product test.
 
Priority_Mail90 said:
You serious, they're recommending potential monavie scam type stuff ? When I read one of those books it didn't seem like that at all, which one were you reading, the original ? The only thing I seem to recall was real-estate and of course the whole pay yourself first deal (and form a corporation to bring down your taxes and so on).

Still, things like monavie are very dangerous for the stupid, I just can't believe they would outright recommend pyramid schemes.
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Yeah I've read like 5 of them. Most all but the one for kids or to teach kids.
 
The Rich Dad guy got rich from Amway selling his book. So it's not surprising he likes MLM. And his forums are filled with MLM idiots.
 
It's so funny how I stumbled across this post. My sister just got involved in this whole quixstar crap. I tried to explain to her that she could make money online on her own with affiliate marketing, but she wouldn't listen.

Then she gave my number to her quixstar mentor, who won't stop fucking calling me. This guy was ready to drive from New York to Pennsylvania to meet up with me and tell me all about Quixstar.

I guess she's going to have to learn the hard way.
 
Maybe she say one of their ads. I've noticed Quixstar is running a national campaign on TV and in USA Today. Smart on their part given the current economic confitions and the job losses - I feel sorry for the suckers who get caught up in that mess.
 
Like any other business, I think it just depends on when you enter the market. Amway just opened up in Russia last year, and the people at the top are making big bucks.........


SO -

The morale of the story is - If you want to start your high-flying career as an AMWAY salesperson, you should move to Russia ! :D
 
Sawya said:
How does reverse funnel work?
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It's been awhile since I looked it up(it's a bitch to find real info on it) but here's the basics.
The grand marketing scheme is pitched on the landing page I'm sure we've all seen about the "beach bum" the person pays like $20 or $30 to learn how to market their marvelous "product" (a subscription to a hotel club kind of thing). This is generally accompanied by the person who got the signup helping them and hyping the product itself, and how well it sells. So anyways, if you actually want to SELL the product it's $2000 or $3000(I forget which) to be able to do it. And with that comes the "perk" of being a member at the hotel club thing yourself. But in reality, all that happened is you're paying for the product itself that you wanted to sell. So getting people to sign up under you is the easiest way to sell it, and with that there is yet another affiliate. I think you get a cut of their "sales" too, as well as one from them signing up.

It's pretty ingenious in a way. It has all the traits of a pyramid scheme, but it has a "product" which legally makes it not one. But selling the product pretty much requires creating more people under you.

Oh yeah. And the only reason the $20-30 is required in the beginning to learn the methods(but not sell the product) is so that it creates a sense of obligation. Either admit you tossed away $20-30, or take a gamble and get the full thing. Too many people are too proud to get out when they're only $20-30 down.
At least that's how I understand it. There's so many fanatical nutjobs dirtying up the search results(and even ripoffreport) for it that it's hard as shit to figure out what's actually going on or to find negative information on it. Even though it's utterly bullshit.

In the end, nearly everyone fails at making sales on it, but they've already purchased it and padded "Ty"'s wallet, so no one gives a rip.
 
yeah, I was in Minneapolis last week and the daytime talk radio stations were running ads for the BeachBumRadioAd.com site - I swear it's impossible to figure out WHAT the hell they are selling.
 
xmcp123 said:
It's been awhile since I looked it up(it's a bitch to find real info on it) but here's the basics.
The grand marketing scheme is pitched on the landing page I'm sure we've all seen about the "beach bum" the person pays like $20 or $30 to learn how to market their marvelous "product" (a subscription to a hotel club kind of thing). This is generally accompanied by the person who got the signup helping them and hyping the product itself, and how well it sells. So anyways, if you actually want to SELL the product it's $2000 or $3000(I forget which) to be able to do it. And with that comes the "perk" of being a member at the hotel club thing yourself. But in reality, all that happened is you're paying for the product itself that you wanted to sell. So getting people to sign up under you is the easiest way to sell it, and with that there is yet another affiliate. I think you get a cut of their "sales" too, as well as one from them signing up.

It's pretty ingenious in a way. It has all the traits of a pyramid scheme, but it has a "product" which legally makes it not one. But selling the product pretty much requires creating more people under you.

Oh yeah. And the only reason the $20-30 is required in the beginning to learn the methods(but not sell the product) is so that it creates a sense of obligation. Either admit you tossed away $20-30, or take a gamble and get the full thing. Too many people are too proud to get out when they're only $20-30 down.
At least that's how I understand it. There's so many fanatical nutjobs dirtying up the search results(and even ripoffreport) for it that it's hard as shit to figure out what's actually going on or to find negative information on it. Even though it's utterly bullshit.

In the end, nearly everyone fails at making sales on it, but they've already purchased it and padded "Ty"'s wallet, so no one gives a rip.
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That's exactly how the Monavie Scam works. To get the pay out, each affiliate in the pyramid has to buy the product monthly, only the company keeps 50% of every sale and the remainder gets distributed up the pyramid.

Basically the house always wins.
 
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