Global Warming now officially bullshit

Oh, nm then. I was going to point out that the major religions are much bigger conspiracies than several thousand scientists promoting their own self interest with bad science, or 10s of thousands of nazis committing genocide against the Jews, or millions of Chinese committing genocide against Tibetans etc.
 


Greetings,

To all people in the house in the next 20 yrs the earth is entering a colder cooling phase look up " sun cycles " within Google and you'll see for the last 2 yrs the sun has had less and less sun spots which result in cooling effects.

We will see colder winters and more snow across the globe.

Message to AL GORE :321:


Lol good weekend to all :) Peace
 
"The evidence" in science is peer-reviewed research from those in that particular field of study. Gravity still hasn't been scientifically proven, either. Science is about odds and probabilities. A petition or a talk radio guy screaming into a microphone isn't go to change the actual numbers that have already been recorded. If you are so concerned with proof, then there is a whole lot less evidence available to prove that 1,000s of climate change scientists are part of what would be one of the biggest conspiracies in history.


No, evidence of fact in science is based off of accurate results from a tested hypothesis. Gravity is an accepted theory which is considered a law of science. There is no question that the force we have dubbed gravity exists. It does. We simply do not understand it fully.

If we are talking numbers here, then there are far more scientists who call bullshit on global warming than those who support it. This isn't an opinion, it has been the consensus since this nonsense hit the mainstream in the 70's.

The formula here is as follows:

Purchase the opinions of renowned scientists with a similar agenda, gather a collective of politicians with the same motives, use mainstream media outlets to push that agenda, and then you have something called Global Warming.

100 thousand scientists screaming at the top of their lungs can not compete with that. You hear the stories that you are meant to hear, as well as the evidence, facts, and repetition of those opinions.

As it was pointed out by others recently, many other scientific reasons explain current climate changes; such as celestial and natural global changes.

We been taking accurate daily temperature (and such data) measurements of the earth for what? less than 150 years. The earth is how old? The earth has been through fire, ice, tropical, and current climates swings for billions of years- WITHOUT our "polluting" it; according to the same science using the sediment of the earth as a measure.

More oil leaks naturally into the sea by an exponent of what we have spilled. Natural wildfires have scorched more of the forests than we have ever chopped down. The list goes on and on, as it has been the natural cycles of the earth since it was formed.

There is nothing wrong with being conscious of how we treat the earth and nature, or by recycling our waste. These practices are of merit. However, doing so because we believe that we are going to kill the planet is ridiculous at best.

There is no solid evidence that we have ever influenced the climate of earth in any way.
 
If we are talking numbers here, then there are far more scientists who call bullshit on global warming than those who support it. This isn't an opinion, it has been the consensus since this nonsense hit the mainstream in the 70's.

Wow, where are you getting this garbage from?

Purchase the opinions of renowned scientists with a similar agenda, gather a collective of politicians with the same motives, use mainstream media outlets to push that agenda, and then you have something called Global Warming.
This is a conspiracy theory with little to no proof. You're the one who thinks it's "arrogant bullshit" for people to buy into things that you consider to have little evidence, remember?

100 thousand scientists screaming at the top of their lungs can not compete with that.
Where are all the scientists screaming about journals refusing to look at their work? The MIT guy and his partner were at least able to get this one thing published.

There is no solid evidence that we have ever influenced the climate of earth in any way.
If you're already convinced the climatologists are liars, then there will never be anything they can offer up that you would consider evidence.
 
I sincerely hope this goes viral:

ClimateGate - Climate center's server hacked revealing documents and emails

Britain’s Hadley Climate Research Unit, University of East Anglia, suffered a data breach in recent days when a hacker apparently broke into their system and made away with thousands of emails and documents. The stolen data was then posted to a Russian server and has quickly made the rounds among climate skeptics. The documents within the archive, if proven to be authentic, would at best be embarrassing for many prominent climate researchers and at worst, damning.
The emails contain an array of discussions including what appear to be concerted efforts to withhold data. Just as troubling is conversations that allude to potentially manipulating climate data to “hide the decline” of temperatures seen in the last decade.
Apparently this is the department that the IPCC based most of its findings on.
 
I hope this destroys those con artists. From one of the hacked emails...

]there have been a number of dishonest presentations of model results by individual authors and by IPCC
 
anybody actually watched this one?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]
 
anybody actually watched this one?

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

His logic makes no sense. Make up a ridiculous scenario, and then implement draconian legislation in order to avoid the ridiculous scenario. And two million people watched this drivel? And somebody else said they loved his 'logic'?

Quick! We're all gonna die! Giant dinosaurs are going to come here on spaceships and eat us - unless you give me money to bribe them off! Which scenario would you want? Can you poke holes in my 'logic'? Can you?
 
His logic makes no sense. Make up a ridiculous scenario, and then implement draconian legislation in order to avoid the ridiculous scenario.

It's not like he pulled it out of thin air or something. As he said,this is the worst case scenario. Even if the effect of global warming is only one tenth as bad as many believe, consequences will still be huge.
 
Going by that logic I could prove that I shouldn't walk on the street because a brick might fall on my head.

You can use that logic on anything bad to prove that you should look out for it.

On a sidenote, did anyone else notice that on both sides of his logic there is a terrible scenario, plus a scenario with a smily face, except one of them also has a $$ cost.

In other words, we might as well just accept the bad consequences if they happen, but if not, at least we avoid the $$ cost. In other words, don't pay attention to gloval warming.
 
Going by that logic I could prove that I shouldn't walk on the street because a brick might fall on my head.

You can use that logic on anything bad to prove that you should look out for it.

On a sidenote, did anyone else notice that on both sides of his logic there is a terrible scenario, plus a scenario with a smily face, except one of them also has a $$ cost.

In other words, we might as well just accept the bad consequences if they happen, but if not, at least we avoid the $$ cost. In other words, don't pay attention to gloval warming.

If the stage were different, you would absolutely see the logic in that. Think of it as managing your own business. You built it from scratch. You are successful. It's your baby.

You're directly responsible for the future of your business. There is a threat targeting your business. You have to decide whether to buy that expensice insurance package that protects you from almost every bad thing that could happen to your company, and takes care of it in almost every instance. If you don't get the insurance package, you are at the mercy of the threatening party and everybody else who comes along and might want to harm you and your company. If you get the insurance package, your accountant tells you that you can write it off.

Being the great mind, leader, and responsible business owner that you are, you make a risk analysis based on what you currently know about your business and the market. You outline the outcome in a matrix.

In this scenario: which option do you choose? Remember you are a business owner, it's your company, and are acting on your own immediate future's behalf. If you don't do it, nobody will and your business is just sitting there waiting to get picked apart to its bones by the vultures.

If there is even the slightest possibility for a disaster (as in: everything blows up), you have to take every step necessary to make sure this scenario never comes true. Once you realize that it's you, in person, who is affected, and not just such impalable things as "the world" or "everybody else" or "humanity", you'll notice a shift in perspective and you'll see that there is no other option.

"The globle vs. global warming" directly translates to "you vs. your own slow death". Just try to think bigger for once.
 
By definition individualists don't need changes in the state and collection of individuals to facilitate them. However reality does not comport. Individualists do need changes in state and society to facilitate sustained individualism.

If you want to make sense of your individualism you start by defining the extent of your individualism. We know it is dependent, but to what extent. And when you determine how dependent it is, does it remain individualism any longer?

The point to take home here is that theories catch fire upon entering the atmosphere. By the time you practically implement them in a sustainable system, they are drastically different thanks to one single variable: Human nature.

Human nature fucks all textbook theories beyond recognition as soon as they enter the real world.

Voluntaryism faces the same problem.

None of these theories addresses human nature because they were written up by political scientists and economists, and as long as they won't, they will fail.

Do you think a voluntaryistic(?) system will be thoroughly self regulating and require no intervention? How will the system deal with crime?

I'm not flaming here, I really am curious how you will reconcile crime with a voluntaryistic value system.

Guess Mr Economic Theory disappeared.

You know what they say, when the going gets tough, the tough get......
 
Unlike most of the people hanging out in STS not making money, I am working double-time to bank right now.

So while I would like to chit chat with some random posters on the net, taking care of my customers and continuing to acquire currency come first.

If I get time tonight, after writing a blog post, answering support requests, moving 30 sites to a new server and helping another WFer setup a working macro, I will respond to your comment.

In the meantime, keep lurking here for a response. It's real productive.
 
Unlike most of the people hanging out in STS not making money, I am working double-time to bank right now.

So while I would like to chit chat with some random posters on the net, taking care of my customers and continuing to acquire currency come first.

If I get time tonight, after writing a blog post, answering support requests, moving 30 sites to a new server and helping another WFer setup a working macro, I will respond to your comment.

In the meantime, keep lurking here for a response. It's real productive.

Take a chill pill homie. You were posting on all cylinders, full of theories before I came along. I check once a week, but my expectations aren't real high. I know I can't expect much from you.

In fact, at this point you better not reply. Just think twice before spewing your economic theory bullshit, and everything will be alright.