Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

nickster said:
I guess I need to make things a little simpler for you to understand so I'll give an example.

This is an example a little bit closer to my home.

During the 80s the IRA (Irish Republican Army) were committing terrorist attacks against british targets, killing a lot of innocent people. It may come as a surprise to you (if you are American it certainly will) that the VAST majority of Irish people did not support the IRA. That didn't stop a large number of the British public from labelling Irish people terrorist scum. Now, among those normal people there were (and are) a large proportion who believe that the north of Ireland shouldn't be under british rule. The difference is that they weren't blowing people up and were not supporting the actions of the IRA.

Before you jump all over me and make an illogical connection in the above example I AM NOT saying that the IRA and the "Irish Problem" is the same as the current terrorist problem. I am just showing an example of how your flow of logic would justify the british demonising the Irish, even though that is ridiculous.
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Fascinating. And which verses from the New Testament were they shouting out as their bombs went off?
 


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nickster said:
Ironic coming from someone who doesn't understand sets.



Also a pity you don't know how ironic that question actually is.
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You are saying you should not lump all Muslims together, but then are lumping in all religions together. :(

I am sorry, but I cannot follow any of this logic.
 
>the comedian will stand trial for "condoning terrorism."

>Prosecutors had opened the case against him on Monday after he wrote “Tonight, as far as I’m concerned, I feel like Charlie Coulibaly”

>Authorities said 54 people had been arrested for hate speech and defending terrorism since terror attacks killed 20 people in Paris last week

>The comic wrote an open letter to France's interior minister. "You are looking for a pretext to forbid me. You consider me like Amedy Coulibaly when I am not any different from Charlie," he wrote.

>Like many European countries, France has strong laws against hate speech, especially anti-Semitism in the wake of the Holocaust.

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Charlie Hebdo edition sells out immediately; France tightening anti-Semitism, hate speech laws
 
So France plans to execute this guy in cold blood, right? I mean you're making comparisons here right? :2gunsfiring_v1:

And ya everyone knows free speech is limited in different ways in different countries. But in only a few backward shitholes are you executed for saying the wrong thing.

In EU you just can't talk much racism or anti-Semite stuff (especially Germany) cause they went through WW2 and are oversensitive to it, but they wont kill you if you do.
In the US you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or threaten to kill the president, but they still wont kill you if you do.
 
The point is that he was one of the top French comedians for years and ended up getting banned from all TV stations and major theatres for making jokes about the holocaust. At the beginning of his career he also made jokes about Islam, Christianity, Blacks, Whites, Indians, but it's when he started making jokes about Jews and the Holocaust that he got in serious trouble. He's still banned an dealing with multiple lawsuits today.

That and let's not even talk about Maurice Sinet, a cartoonist who was employed by Charlie Hebdo and ended up getting fired for making a joke about Sarkozy's son converting to judaism for "financial reasons".

So yeah, freedom of speech in western countries is encouraged when it comes to bashing Muslims and Blacks... tolerated when it comes to bashing Catholics... but when it comes to your Jewish overlords, pas touche mon ami!
 
WickedJoe said:
So France plans to execute this guy in cold blood, right? I mean you're making comparisons here right? :2gunsfiring_v1:

And ya everyone knows free speech is limited in different ways in different countries. But in only a few backward shitholes are you executed for saying the wrong thing.

In EU you just can't talk much racism or anti-Semite stuff (especially Germany) cause they went through WW2 and are oversensitive to it, but they wont kill you if you do.
In the US you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or threaten to kill the president, but they still wont kill you if you do.
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is yelling fire in a theater or a threat to kill the president comparable to posting “Tonight, as far as I’m concerned, I feel like Charlie Coulibaly” on your facebook?

(not sure what punishment he faces so I wont compare it to Raif Badawi) but I say it's more comparable to the egyptian boy getting sentenced to 3 years for saying he's athiest on facebook.

I would say printing pictures of Mohammadmax engaging in gay shit is comparable to "Charlie Hebdo fired anti semitic cartoonist for ridiculing Judiasm"

I would compare ww2 to all the other ethnic groups who have been slaughtered in Eur's history, and in greater numbers than the Jews.

"France plans to execute this guy in cold blood, right?"
I would not compare what two individuals did to what the government does. Comparing France to Saudi Arabia would be more on the same level (not saying France is as bad as Saudi whatsoever,, ok so maybe France to China is better comparison)

I would compare the killing at Charlie Hebdo to the innocent 711 employees who were shot and killed by americans after the 911 attack. (although there are differences ie they both were not over a cartoon,, but more comparable than the government vs 2 individuals)

>"But in only a few backward shitholes are you executed for saying the wrong thing." I agree with you here, but the hypocrisy I compare is the censorship vs them marching for freedom of speech, not so much the death sentence.

>"or threaten to kill the president" could this be comparable to making a movie about assassinating the president? ... i'm not sure ,maybe, though one could be taken serious and the other as just comedy (depends on perspective I guess) but still food for thought.

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just read that link posted above by avatar33 .... apparently sine (pictured above) wasn't just fired, but is also going to trial on charges of anti-semitism.

> "Maurice Sinet, 80, who works under the pen name Sine, faces charges of "inciting racial hatred" for a column he wrote last July in the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo."

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, , that is some bullshit right there, dam.. Let's get "JE SUIS SINE" trending ,cant even find 1 pic on images

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Fatbat said:
If you've got a point to make, then make it.
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Seeing as you disliked the post I assumed you got my point, either that or you just disliked it because............. you didn't understand it?!?!?

Either way I am done with you. Have a nice day (although its pretty cloudy) :)
 
nickster said:
Seeing as you disliked the post I assumed you got my point, either that or you just disliked it because............. you didn't understand it?!?!?

Either way I am done with you. Have a nice day (although its pretty cloudy) :)
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LoL, giving up like a little bitch? You got owned repeatedly in this thread by multiple people because you you talk in circles and contradict yourself. You don't know what to think or how you feel and you can't express yourself clearly, which says you're confused about these issues. Posting some mathematical mumbo jumbo about set theory doesn't disguise that.

You're right........................ I don't understand your point??!!!!?!?!!!!!?!! (sadly I'm not a mathematician)

So leave like a little bitch if you want to, taking your cop out mathematical superiority complex with you, or make your fucking point like a man.

The weather is lovely here today BTW.
 
WickedJoe said:
In EU you just can't talk much racism or anti-Semite stuff (especially Germany) cause they went through WW2 and are oversensitive to it, but they wont kill you if you do.
In the US you can't yell fire in a crowded theater or threaten to kill the president, but they still wont kill you if you do.
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It is entirely possible they will if you try to defend yourself when they come for you.
 
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