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trigatch4 said:
Mixed feelings.

Let the existing "premium members" decide who is worthy of the "inner circle". You'll basically need people to "vouch" for you... ie eliminating the bullshit. If a newb wants to "get in" then perhaps they can pay their way in but at the same time, what is to stop Google or Facebook or anyone from ante-ing up $200/year to get the lowdown on the showdown... the "dirt" so to speak?
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I thought we outgrew elitist popularity contests in high school. :error:

No offense, Trigatch, and I see a valid point in your suggestion, but that will only encourage competitors to badmouth each other or [insert various prejudices here].

While capping the subscribers at a certain number is okay, having too limited a forum can also be self-destructive as talent leaves, moves on or stops sharing ideas and a vacuum emerges where rising talent should be.

Everyone was a noob at some point. Few are talented, it's true, but those few will never matriculate if everyone keeps throwing up barriers and catch-22s like:

-- you need a shitload of money to buy into a club to make money (I'm not saying I can't pay $25, I'm saying prices significantly higher than that are steep for forums)

-- you need to know people to meet people who can 'know you'

etc. Just saying. Some of us are just starting to see returns on little-cost investments and still learning programming as we go. I don't mind paying, and I told Jon so -- but we'd better be getting really good info in a paid forum.
 


PR is page ratio. It's the ratio of how many links there are to your page versus all the links to all the pages on the internet.
 
SleepyStarling said:
No offense, Trigatch, and I see a valid point in your suggestion, but that will only encourage competitors to badmouth each other or [insert various prejudices here].
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Point taken... but I explained that every solution has positives/negatives. The "vouching" policy serves to eliminate the threat of unwanted prying eyes AND newbs. A paying system eliminates people with little/no disposable income which are probably mostly newbs.

Whatever I'll just wait and see what is implemented and decide what to do from there. I'm done with this thread until Jon imposes his new rules of membership... then everything will sort itself out.
 
At first I was fucking pissed about this shit. But this placed has helped me earn a lot of bank, so I figure its worth it. Yea I don't have a job, and all of the money I make goes back into trying to make more money, but I'm sure I can scrape a few bucks together to get in. You said we can bargain, correct?
 
Well if Toolhen's little spamming episode that just happened a few moments ago (i think the poor mod is still cleaning it all up) didn't just drive this thread home I don't know what will.


What a fucking Git and a half.:ugone2far:
 
turbolapp said:
Well if Toolhen's little spamming episode that just happened a few moments ago (i think the poor mod is still cleaning it all up) didn't just drive this thread home I don't know what will.
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Yah, and the touchpad on my 11.1 inch laptop doesn't make it very easy to delete them all very fast... :error:
 
turbolapp said:
Well if Toolhen's little spamming episode that just happened a few moments ago (i think the poor mod is still cleaning it all up) didn't just drive this thread home I don't know what will.


What a fucking Git and a half.:ugone2far:
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Point taken. I always thought he was a dickwad, though, not just after today.
 
Not sure I see the connection between high monthly fee and seriousness/professionalism. You're probably just going to get really angry "noobs" who pay the high price and don't know how to apply the info.
 
Well, count me out.

Forums are about content. You get my content, and in turn I get access to forum members. Advertising at the top. Pretty straightforward.

I feel like I'm a pretty reasonable contributor to the site, but if it's pay to play, I guess I'll go somewhere else.
 
If the goal is to bring in revenue to replace the banners with paid-member ads, etc., a monthly fee is a great idea.

If it's a matter of keeping newbs out, a monthly fee isn't going to stop the newbs from desecrating the space (as m0rtal said above). After all, there are plenty of newbs with money to burn. $25 a month isn't going to keep them out.

Ironically, one danger is that "playuhs" may be willing to leave rather than pay up, whether based on principle or price. Some may say, "Well, fuck 'em then. Let 'em leave..." but I can think of a few members where it'd be a real loss if they bailed.

Then, there's the issue of identifying newbs. How the fuck do you do that?!

If someone has 3 posts to their name (which is a shitload more than me at the moment), that obviously doesn't mean they're idiots or unwilling to help. They might know their shit and be right on the cusp of jumping in to beat on people with kick-ass tactics. Then, there are some knuckleheads with 1,000 posts who don't know much but sure want to share it all with everyone every chance they get.

How about implementing a paid system and a timed test. In other words, yeah... someone can whip out a credit card but, as soon as they're about to pony up the $25 or whatever for access, their IP is logged and a timed test starts. It's timed so that they can't look around for the answers. They either know their shit or they don't (whether it's SEO, PPC, mailing, media buys, etc.). If they score well, they get access plus perks. If they don't, they get to give you money, but...

But, shit... what do I know? I only have 1 post so far.
 
Jon said:
Lame newbies trying to get something for nothing.

I want to be able to segregate the newbies who are retards from the newbies who may actually become valuable.

I'm tired of spending my time on the newbies, or answering questions, or worse, explaining the rules.
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So why not lock and delete the cause of most of the n00bs coming here:

http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-marketing/10491-free-ebook-download-section.html

It's like a fucking wasteland of retards in that thread... :error:
 
i think you should keep it free, but make it a private forum and show ads. I get sick of all the new people, it makes me not want to post anything. I used to be more involved, but lately quality has been a little poor, so i just read blogs instead.
But you have this site to make money so do what you need to do.
 
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