How does the government create jobs?

The government absolutely creates jobs... By fucking the private sector:

Step 1. Take a job that can be done by a private company and "federalize" it.
Step 2. Hire people to work in new positions in this new government department.
Step 3. New employees join labor union which donates money back into the politicians who created this new government department.
Step 4. US government borrows more money to pay for the government employees.
Step 5. Pay employees higher-than-normal wages, but who cares - the government can print money.

Want to see all the jobs the government has available? It'll make you fucking SICK how huge the government is.

Do a search without a keyword - just type in Los Angeles, CA or another major city and see all the jobs that come up.

USAJOBS - The Federal Government's Official Jobs Site
 


USPS vs UPS vs FEDEX

Which operate with profits?
Which provide a better faster service?

Government just doesn't have a good track record vs the private sector.



If the government would get out of the way. Private funds will flow into making businesses and jobs. We dont need money from government going into debt or raising taxes. Private money is just scared to go play, because of government.
 
Total fallacy to believe that regulations, compliance, etc. are too much for the average business. I have a good friend that did just open a hot dog stand. He's a pretty smart guy, BTW, but not a rocket scientist. Took him about a month, from getting the license to the inspection, to opening the doors. Doing pretty well, actually. Funny part of it all is that he started the business because of a government program that allowed him, as a retiree, to attend a tech school for free. So he took some food prep, culinary, and business classes and opened the hotdog stand. He's in the black after just a few months of running the business. Bam! Job created by a government program.

On a larger scale, infrastructure spending is the easiest, fastest, and best way to create jobs. Despite what many will tell you, the private sector cannot, and will not, fund infrastructure. As Andrew Sullivan said the other day, paraphrasing, "We have no supply shortages for materials, construction wages are at all time lows, but infrastructure is so bad here, only because the government lacks the political balls to fund infrastructure." If the government was interested in creating jobs, they'd fund infrastructure improvements that have been delayed and canned by both parties for years. It seems that the generation retiring now has taken advantage of the largess of their parents' generation and not paid the tab, re: highways, bridges, etc. It's time to pay up.

Finally, if you think you don't take advantage of government programs, at least in the US, you're probably very wrong: Half of US social program recipients believe they “have not used a government social program”
 
Lilluda_5 said:
I'm not here to convince anybody, but I believe there is a happy medium in between the two ideologies. Good day sir.
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I never understand how people can say there is a happy medium when someone is being stolen from.

Also, your attempt to engage in a tu quoque with Will is just poor argumentation.
 
Technically, the government can create "jobs". But at the end of the day, it's not about jobs, it's about production. The government can't produce shit and that's what ultimately counts.

Otherwise, we could just run up the printing press to "stimulate the economy", hire half the country to dig holes and the other half to fill them back up. Everyone would have a job, but there would be no net production.
 
negro2k said:
u mean like the acai market
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Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't it VISA/MC/Amex and merchant account providers that pulled the plug on (most of) this fiasco? That's the free market at work - not government intervention.

Customers complained, businesses reacted, problem was (mostly) solved.
 
Dossey02 said:
Total fallacy to believe that regulations, compliance, etc. are too much for the average business.
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Total fallacy to claim they aren't. The question is set up such that it cannot be answered.

Dossey02 said:
Took him about a month, from getting the license to the inspection, to opening the doors.
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He lost an entire months revenue having to wait.

Dossey02 said:
Funny part of it all is that he started the business because of a government program that allowed him, as a retiree, to attend a tech school for free.
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It was free for him, it wasn't free to the taxpayer.

Dossey02 said:
Job created by a government program.
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Uhm, no. No more than a mugger who pays for his brother in law to go to college with the money he steals from little old ladies.

Dossey02 said:
On a larger scale, infrastructure spending is the easiest, fastest, and best way to create jobs.
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The communists also believe in infrastructure development to create jobs. It's why communist economies are so successful...

On a more serious note, people don't need jobs. Humans don't want jobs, they want purchasing power. They are not the same thing. All of us would rather work less than work more, all things being equal.

So why do people demand jobs? Because they are regulated and educated out of entrepreneurship and have no choice but to become wage employees in order to have the purchasing power to enjoy a modest life.
 
Government can only hinder true job creation -- it's a zero sum gain, at Best, when they try.

Obama (*ostensibly) believes government is the answer. To everything, the bigger the better.

* Quite frankly I believe he hates the American Dream and all it stands for. I also believe he is undermining our still great nation knowingly and with malice of forethought.

Why? Who knows what a person's true ulterior motives are. The why's are not important: his actions shout louder than any words could.

That mother fucker's gotta go! Me I'm voting for anyone else -- even if its a talking parrot.
 
Thank you, so no one so far has been able to provide evidence that government can promote private sector jobs. You are seriously drinking the cool-aide if you believe that shit.
 
Obama Cranked this economy with bilions of jobs, remember the Shovel Ready Jobs in his economic stimulation plan?

There's a brilliant example right there..

Think about that. Vote Obama in 2012 if you like this shovel-ready economy!
 
BlokBlok said:
From what I see personally, it seems as though the economy has weeded out the shittiest employees in the workforce and no one wants to hire them now. Everyone I know personally that I regard as intelligent and someone I would want to hire or work with has some type of employment.
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But they (the weeds in your metaphor) still have to live.
 
The gov't doesn't create jobs. Only when it gets the f'k out of the way are jobs created. That's what is happening when they claim to have created jobs by setting up a free trade zone or such thing - they got the f'k out of the way and let the market work.
 
Some of you guys have strayed too far off the path, and have been in IM for too long. If economies flourish with the least amount of government intervention, then why aren't countries like Somalia booming? I mean, there's not much government interference there, so free market dictates their economy should be booming, right?

Yet, strictly regulated & controlled economies such as those in Singapore and Hong Kong are absolutely flourishing. Government itself is needed, and isn't the problem. The problem is HOW the government is run.
 
I'm Canadian, but according to about 50% of the bullshit I heard during your recent 'debt ceiling crisis' the government doesn't create jobs.

Only people making >$200,000 a year are 'job creators'. As a matter of fact, about 50% of the American politicians I hear speak seem to think that every single person that makes above this figure is a job creator.
 
Kiopa_Matt said:
Some of you guys have strayed too far off the path, and have been in IM for too long. If economies flourish with the least amount of government intervention, then why aren't countries like Somalia booming? I mean, there's not much government interference there, so free market dictates their economy should be booming, right?
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Somalia is a barren wasteland, they have very little exports, they product almost nothing. Not very easy to farm in a shitty desert with low soil nutrition.

When civilization doesn't produce anything, it becomes poor.
 
tangy said:
I'm Canadian, but according to about 50% of the bullshit I heard during your recent 'debt ceiling crisis' the government doesn't create jobs.

Only people making >$200,000 a year are 'job creators'. As a matter of fact, about 50% of the American politicians I hear speak seem to think that every single person that makes above this figure is a job creator.
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Most are.
 
Kiopa_Matt said:
Some of you guys have strayed too far off the path, and have been in IM for too long. If economies flourish with the least amount of government intervention, then why aren't countries like Somalia booming? I mean, there's not much government interference there, so free market dictates their economy should be booming, right?

Yet, strictly regulated & controlled economies such as those in Singapore and Hong Kong are absolutely flourishing. Government itself is needed, and isn't the problem. The problem is HOW the government is run.
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That is incorrect. In places like Somalia and Haiti the government intervenes confiscates wealth and capital as soon as it begins to develop. So everybody ends up living hand to mouth - no capital is ever created so no means of production ever develop and no improvement in people's lot is possible.
 
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