I enjoy your posts, but you always seem to do this ^^ impose your opinion as irrefutable truth, when it simply isn't.
Mad respect to white people
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I enjoy your posts, but you always seem to do this ^^ impose your opinion as irrefutable truth, when it simply isn't.
Again, where did I claim my opinion was irrefutable?
If you can refute what I am saying, do it. Otherwise, stop making bullshit claims. It's mindless for you to continue to criticize my opinion with a strawman.
Here is a starting point.
Do I "seem" to do it, or do I do it? If I have done it, prove it. Quote me.
You're confusing "irrefutable" with sound, well-reasoned, and well-articulated arguments. They only become "irrefutable" if someone doesn't make the effort to counter them. Which most do given their well-reasoned-articulated-ness.
Wait, did I "seem to do it" or did I do it?
Just honesty and a commitment to get to the facts.
I almost never make appeals to science, and I think you should know that if you have been reading my posts, including the ones you've responded to in this thread.
Reality isn't constantly changing. Our comprehension of reality is changing.
The earth wasn't flat when we believed it was, and then it changed to round and we discovered that. It was always round. Likewise, as our understanding improves, so does our perception of the nature of the universe around us.
You can see anything the way you want, but if you think you have the power to fly, and you jump out of an airplane without a parachute, my reality where I take the law of gravity into account, is going to terminate your reality with extreme geographical and aeronautical prejudice.
Don't confuse your perception of reality with objective reality. We're shaved monkeys with limited perception of energy fields, time and subatomic processes. What we don't know about reality far exceeds what we think we do know. And certainly, your brain isn't capable of making it up as you go, or you would be omniscient (God).
Why do you deny logic? Not science. Reason.
It is mostly impossible to debate with people who take your stance. Folks who refuse to analyze their own beliefs aren't likely to provide any additional value to a discussion. If you insist you're right because you feel you're right, not because you can prove it or that you have tested it, what is the point in talking? You have your position, and you're not willing to challenge it.
Likewise, other than asserting a bunch of things "this is this, that is that" you're not willing to deconstruct and analyze my position.
So again, what's the point in discussing further?
You're welcome to believe what you want. You're even welcome to believe I am wrong, an idiot, or a fool. However, without you being able to prove it, who really cares?
Yes, I understand the difference quite well. Your statements are facts. Period.
This is an opinion.. Not a fact. I don't need to hear declarations of inferred truth over fact in every post. It's a debate tactic.. a verbal disarming, or dismissing of opinion. It's really transparent - plz stop doing it.
Where did I claim this?
Source it. If it's true, prove it. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask you to back up what you say. Particularly when you're telling me what I have said, and what my intent is.
Agreed. Where did I claim it was a fact? Can you source it?
Or is this another strawman?
If it's not true, challenge it.
I can't be responsible for your capacity to interpret or to perceive.
Again, I will stand by what I have written. Challenge it directly. Don't claim I am doing something you can't prove I am. Remove doubt. Shine the light of clarity on my posts. Dissect, don't assert.
The approach you've taken thus far has been a huge waste of our time.
If it is so transparent, prove it. That's all you have to do to end whatever it is you think I am doing. Prove I have said something incorrect.
If you can't prove it, how can you believe it is true, and why do you continue to accuse me of something you only believe but cannot prove?
The burden of proof is always on the accuser. So prove your case if you're truly right.
Or accept you can't prove your claims, and have the decency to give it a rest already.
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Also, if it was socially acceptable to celebrate white people and other majorities, what the fuck would the idiots on Reddit do with their time if they weren't blindly defending every gay/black/female/martian who is obviously in desperate need of their constant white knighting?
Seriously, I'm really sick of that fucking community. This is totally on-topic, btw.
Also, if it was socially acceptable to celebrate white people and other majorities, what the fuck would the idiots on Reddit do with their time if they weren't blindly defending every gay/black/female/martian who is obviously in desperate need of their constant white knighting?
Seriously, I'm really sick of that fucking community. This is totally on-topic, btw.
I'll give him one thing.. His style is effective. It becomes very exhausting talking in circles with him.
It has taken me a long time (read 20 years) to finally conclude that indeed there has been an inner-species evolution that has occurred.
I haven't tracked how many levels there are specifically yet, but there is certainly a strata of different levels of development among the races.
There is significant evidence that indicate education and environmental resources are the factors at play here.
Since this is an open and friendly discussion I will say that the racial line does blur strongly in America so for argumentation I will temporarily class America as a race in and of itself.
The Americans are the most evolved of humans. I classify 'evolved' as level of self-awareness. So I could say that Americans are the most self-aware humans on the planet (does per capita work here?).
Sure there are hillbillies in the Appalachians, and immigrants that are imported from less-evolved cultures in the US, as well as a nod to the higher evolved Nepalese, and Indian Sufi.
Traveling all over the northern hemisphere for the last 2 years (I cant wait to get back home, I miss pizza) I have seen a large swath of human kind. Lack of structured and default level education, over many generations, yields a far-less evolved class of human.
From wading through trash in Moldova and the Eastern Block, to rampant animal abuse and disregard in central Asia to the non-educated slums of India.
Westerners (which includes far Western Europe) are self aware and I have seen a large bulk of humans that are not.
Typically, this falls on resources, which dictates economy, which in turn dictates education, controlling self awareness. Sorry but low resource countries are inhabited by ethnic groups and thus are racially identifiable.
It's not a color of skin thing, it's a where you live thing.
The societal evolutionary gap will really start to get wide in another 50 years, the physical, already started, will be more pronounced in 500 years and greatly in 1000 years.
All for naught, we will probably be largely wiped out in the next 100 years from environmental pollution to see such changes and we will be forced to step backward and exist in the "third world" for a couple of centuries while our environment cleans itself.
WJ
I haven't tracked how many levels there are specifically yet, but there is certainly a strata of different levels of development among the races.
There is significant evidence that indicate education and environmental resources are the factors at play here.
Since this is an open and friendly discussion I will say that the racial line does blur strongly in America so for argumentation I will temporarily class America as a race in and of itself.
The Americans are the most evolved of humans. I classify 'evolved' as level of self-awareness. So I could say that Americans are the most self-aware humans on the planet (does per capita work here?).
Sure there are hillbillies in the Appalachians, and immigrants that are imported from less-evolved cultures in the US, as well as a nod to the higher evolved Nepalese, and Indian Sufi.
Traveling all over the northern hemisphere for the last 2 years (I cant wait to get back home, I miss pizza) I have seen a large swath of human kind. Lack of structured and default level education, over many generations, yields a far-less evolved class of human.
From wading through trash in Moldova and the Eastern Block, to rampant animal abuse and disregard in central Asia to the non-educated slums of India.
Westerners (which includes far Western Europe) are self aware and I have seen a large bulk of humans that are not.
Typically, this falls on resources, which dictates economy, which in turn dictates education, controlling self awareness. Sorry but low resource countries are inhabited by ethnic groups and thus are racially identifiable.
It's not a color of skin thing, it's a where you live thing.
The societal evolutionary gap will really start to get wide in another 50 years, the physical, already started, will be more pronounced in 500 years and greatly in 1000 years.
All for naught, we will probably be largely wiped out in the next 100 years from environmental pollution to see such changes and we will be forced to step backward and exist in the "third world" for a couple of centuries while our environment cleans itself.
WJ
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Fuck zionism
Fuck militarism
Fuck Americanism
Fuck nationalism
Fuck religion
Fuck religion
Fuck religion
Fuck religion
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Fuck militarism
Fuck Americanism
Fuck nationalism
Fuck religion
Fuck religion
Fuck religion
Fuck religion
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPpXY1aWKgI]Propagandhi - Haille Sellasse, Up Your Ass - YouTube[/ame]
I didn't get to my post count running from arguments. I just don't have an unlimited amount of time to give to trolls or people who can't form an argument.
Make an argument that is logically sound (not a fallacy) and I'll debate it.
But making bullshit arguments and then claiming I have "lost" because I don't respond to every bullshit post is a sad way to declare yourself the winner.
Bring something other than strawmen and ad hominem (which is what you and lose lose win are doing right now).
Just prove your claims bro. I am begging you to prove me wrong.
I don't understand why you won't take that invitation to get what you want.
Everyone commits logical errors. Not everyone will correct them.
I think your obsession with me is cute. Really.
I don't see these discussions as win or lose (not a zero sum thinker), simply how effective they are for my time. In an internet argument, almost no one yields, and the longer they debate, the further apart they will become.
You'll never admit you're wrong any more than you think I will. There is no progress to be made between us, this is strictly entertainment for me.
I ask you guys repeatedly to show me specifically where I am wrong. If you guys are right and have a tight case that I am full of shit, it should be easy for you to prove and shut me up and embarass me forever.
But you guys don't, and I think it's because you can't.
The challenge is always there. Show me up. Facts and proof. Bring it.
If you don't, and you just continue to criticize me, it makes you ineffective critics because no one but you will care what you have to say if you're not willing to substantiate it.
Jesus Christ dude.. I've already made my point, and no matter what point I make, you'll reply in the very same manner. That's the whole point.
Prove you wrong in what? I didn't accuse you of being wrong about anything. I accused you of accusing other people of being irrefutably wrong.. citing general truisms to prove it so.. and that you infer that out of 2 opinions- only your's lies is in the realm of fact. All done in either a conscious or subconscious effort in tactics. It's quite clear that you do indeed do that. That's my only point, that's it.. nothing more.
You seek me out. I on the other hand spend zero time thinking about you when you aren't posting directly to me.
If we add up our interactions, I bet you it is 20:1 you trying to start something up with me. That's not a healthy ratio bro.
Yeah, I am going to ignore your posts from time to time. You're going to have to put your big boy pants on and deal with the fact that I just don't care enough about your opinions, your motives or your intelligence to make you a priority for me when I come on Wickedfire.
If you can't deal with that, good luck bro.
You've lost me here. You're claiming I am doing something distasteful and you want me to stop.
Ok, I'm listening. Now explain to me what I am doing that is the problem.
As no-staters like to say, is this civil action in the form of a tort or a contract?
In other words, if there is no crime, what is the hullabaloo about?
Is it possible that you are the one inferring, and I am not actually implying that?
And why can't you just ask me if that is the case? Why assume I am trying to cheat the argument?
Yes, I challenge people when I think they are wrong. And yes, I usually lay out a position, which normally is logically derived from the facts.
If I make a mistake of logic or facts, or I am just sloppy in discourse, I should be called on it. It's not ok for me to do something I consider sloppy by others.
But by that same token, I really put some thought into my criticisms, and I think people dislike my style (I dont pander much) rather than addressing what it is I am talking about.
Which is fine. This is Shooting the Shit. The guy posting above you is acting like my psycho ex-girlfriend following me around the forum. It's hard to take much of this seriously.