Muslims behead a 9-year-old boy



Because it's one big troll thread? Apparently my trolling finally worked. I see this thread the same way I see the tipping thread useless banter that tried to piss people off.

It should be a lesson to all of us about narrow-mindedness also. Whether your for or against: Most of us are too narrow-minded to have an intelligent debate about anything -- save a few enlightened folks. :D

Your trolling sent a very clear message to people who have the clarity to notice.
 
Also, the largest terrorist attack on the USA was done by males.



Ending Suicide Terrorism - by Ron Paul

I, like many, have assumed that the driving force behind the suicide attacks was Islamic fundamentalism...

Pape has collected a database of every suicide terrorist attack between 1980 and 2004, all 462 of them. His conclusions are enlightening and crucial to our understanding the true motivation behind the attacks against Western nations by Islamic terrorists...

Religious beliefs are less important than supposed. For instance, the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist secular group, are the world's leader in suicide terrorism . The largest Islamic fundamentalist countries have not been responsible for any suicide terrorist attack. None have come from Iran or the Sudan. Until the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Iraq never had a suicide terrorist attack in all of its history. Between 1995 and 2004, the al-Qaeda years, two-thirds of all attacks came from countries where the U.S. had troops stationed...

The clincher is this: the strongest motivation, according to Pape, is not religion but rather a desire "to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from the territory the terrorists view as their homeland."

The best news is that if stopping suicide terrorism is a goal we seek, a solution is available to us. Cease the occupation of foreign lands, and the suicide missions will cease. Between 1982 and 1986, there were 41 suicide terrorist attacks in Lebanon. Once the U.S., the French, and Israel withdrew their forces from Lebanon, there were no more attacks. The reason the attacks stop, according to Pape, is that the Osama bin Ladens of the world no longer can inspire potential suicide terrorists despite their continued fanatical religious beliefs.


Good find man. Unfortunately, some people won't believe regardless of evidence.
 
Why not go into details on each of those points instead of being vague and have you ever been to any muslims countries to make such an absurd generalization as to the "treatment of women in muslim countries". Tell me what exactly are you referring to, honor killings (which are often done by tribal/fuedal people and is purely cultural with no relation to Islam)? The Taliban (as I said, dont even bring wahhabi inspired groups into this)? Saudi's not allowing women to drive (again wahhabi's)? Genital mutilations (again tribal with no basis in Islam)? the Burkha (which is purely cultural as women dont have to cover their face)? Do you even know any muslim girls personally or ask them how they are treated?

Bring me the Quran with the verses you refer to in what context it is written that you are so against. Do you want to talk about the Jewish tribe of Qurayza? The 9 yr old wife Aisha?

If you want to have an actual discussion please bring every point along with all references to the said incident before you can be taken seriously.

Yes, I have. I grew up in one. I went to a Madrasah for 5 years and my mom is a Muslim convert.

I know Islam inside out and there's no way it's the right religion(if there's one). Islam has an evil root.

Islam endorses sexism. (4 wives, womens testimonials worth less than men etc, Muhammad had 12 wives in his life time and he bonked a 9 year old when he was 50+ y/o)
Islam endorses racism.
Islam segregates and views the world population as Muslims and non-Muslims and calls for Muslims to hate the other group, and "terrorize" them.
Islam endorses pedophilia.
Islam was spread through blood and by sword.
Islam proposes barbaric laws (shari'a law).
Islam says "fear Allah". I for one would not believe out of fear. I'd rather "love Jesus".
Islam is anti-semitic.
Islam calls for killing of polytheists. (surah at-tawbah)
Islam calls for killing of apostates. (unbelievers)

Islam is for the ignorant and poor, and exploiters(saudi royals, bruneis, gaddafi, egypt, iraq, ever wondered why Islamic countries are the only dictator-run/monarchist countries besides NK).

I can't argue with you if you have your OWN interpretation of the Quran and Hadith as opposed to the popular beliefs.

The problem is with Islam and Muslims of the world, not you personally.

Go make money but know it in your hard that Allah hates money.

This is for the lulz,

About Aisha’s age: History as per Sahih Hadiths from the source of Hazrat Aisha Bint Abu Bakr:



(1) `A´isha Bint Abu Bakr was Prophet Muhammad's third wife. `A´isha herself narrated, "The Messenger of God married me in Shawwal in the tenth year after of his prophet hood, three years before the Migration as I was six years old. I was nine years old when he consummated the marriage with me.



(2) Ibn Hisham narrated that, "Muhammad (pbuh) married Aisha Bint Abu Bakr when she was seven years old and consummated the marriage with her when they were in Medina when she was nine years old (Sahih Hadiths)".



(3) Another Sahih Bukhari Hadith: Hazrat Aisha (RA) narrated, " when Prophet (pbuh) married me I was only six year old at that time. After that we traveled to Medina where I got sick and my hairs were shed due to fever. After I got rid of my sickness my hairs were grown back again. One day while I was playing with my friends in a swing-sets (dolnas) I was called on my mother and when I reached to her she (Mother) held my hand and took me to the door. At that time I was breathing rapidly because I was still tired of swinging with my friends. And I did not understand why I was called here. Then , my mother took me to a room where I saw three helping maids (ansar) who immediately decorated me and handed me over to the Prophet (pbuh), and they left the room. At that time I was only nine- year old. Prophet (pbuh) consummated our marriage that day".



(4) Sahih Bukhari hadith: According to Muaallah Ibn Ashad, Hazrat Aisha narrated: "when I (Aisha) asked why he married me ? Messenger of Allah said, I saw you in dream twice. I saw (in a dream) you are covered by a silk chaddar and Angel Gabriel told me, here is your wife'. When I removed the silk-chaddar I found you were the woman under the silk chaddar. After that I (Messenger of Allah) said to Angel Gabriel , if this is the wish of Allah then it is of course shall be fulfilled."

Here's a 50+ y/o prophet that fantasized about bonking a 6 year old girl TWICE in his dream that world's Muslim population lookup to.
 
How many Afghan-women went to school?

How many have been poisoned for trying to learn how to read?

Wafa Sultan shares some horror stories;
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92uOTF6Tho]YouTube - Wafa Sultan Offers More Criticism of Islam[/ame]
 
I knew i'd get sucked back into this, though i'm bored as hell with this topic so i'm gonna clear some things up and leave you people to your little circus.

No, but I also wouldn't fuck her either.

Hey, I think we're onto something here... Perhaps you have shown us your motives in needing to accept all muslims into your life... Lost pussy otherwise.

This is just ridiculous. I never said i accept all Muslims anywhere... ever. Find me where I said that please. I've been saying from the very beginning to take things on a case by case basis and not generalize. You can't even have a reasonable debate cuz you don't talk apples to apples. You take shit out of context then try to battle something that wasn't even said. Bon travail

Already forgotten that I travel a lot and lived in Bangkok? Sheesh.

I LOVE things that aren't like me and my kind, and the fact that I haven't talked to my entire family in over a decade but am married to a Buddhist might hint at that fact.

What I am not ashamed to say I'm afraid of is that damn book of theirs that tells all who read it to literally hunt down and kill me, and how many thousands try every month. Silly me...

Ummm, this wasn't even directed at you so idk what you're replying to it.

LOL; good try, kiddo. Atheists don't think like that... We'd first have to believe that there is something for us to be obsolete AT... Such as a giant machine that we are all cogs in. Obsololololol...!

Lol...so you just assume that i'm....?? Some religious person? If you need to know my stance i'm Agnostic leaning Atheist. So stop saying "we atheists" like you're the only non-religious one in this forum. Oh yeah and i'm 30 years old so you can quit the "kiddo" shit too.


Dude, it's not fearmongering. It's lifting the veil of lies that currently blind you. I'm not even telling you to literally be afraid of all muslims; I'm telling you that you can't know a muslim from a Jihadist until you get to know them so don't do anything risky like wear your heart on your sleeve while hanging out near new muslimfolk...

It's pretty difficult to have an objective reasonable debate with someone like you who just says condescending things. This whole veil of lies crap is simply your projection. I can say the same about you. Though i would guess by your comments in this thread that you really haven't known more than like 1 or 2 Muslims.



HEY, --->_I'M_<--- the one raising awareness... YOU can't tell ME that awareness saves lives... What are you, new to debate??

There's nothing objective about the "awareness" you claim you're raising. Everything you're saying is fueled by your contempt for Islam and religion in general, which makes it very biased to other people, but in your own head you think you're being objective.

Funny thing is...i hate religion as much as you ostensibly do. But i'm not letting my hatred for organized religion cloud the objectivity of my arguments. You are clearly letting your prejudices and logical thinking overlap each other and it's making for a biased argument on your part.


None at all, which was stated.

Did that offend you that I speculated that he could have used the threat of a bomb? If so, why have you just said "Maybe he did have a bomb." Very confusing dude.

Not offended. I was pointing out that instead of just saying "this man got arrested for reasons i'm not aware of", you speculated what it 'could' have been, even when you have no de facto proof. And your 'could' statement was stemmed from your prejudices of Islam since you decided to pontificate that it was a bomb when you have no proof of that at all.


Avoidance of sorting out 2 Billion ppl isn't laziness. It would take multiple lifetimes just to say each of their names, much less get to know them all on a personal level.

That's why you don't generalize. Yeah how the fuck are you gonna know 2 billion ppl? Impossible. So what do you do? You look at everything on a case by case basis instead of making a vast generalization about a group. It's simply unfair to many of the people that are part of that 2 billion when you do that.


No, but you obviously are for imagining that laughable scenario out of what I said.

Granny there has many options to help stop the extremists without putting on army boots. She can donate. Or for those still in the old country, they should be TAXED.

Who made you King to decide that people get taxed based on what religion they subscribe to? I can't fathom the size of your ego dude
 
^Too Old; Didn't Read.

Holy shit you resurrected an old thread and replied to a post about 70 posts back... Wow... What I said must have really gotten to you a bit, huh?
 
Yes, I have. I grew up in one. I went to a Madrasah for 5 years and my mom is a Muslim convert.

I know Islam inside out and there's no way it's the right religion(if there's one). Islam has an evil root.

Islam endorses sexism. (4 wives, womens testimonials worth less than men etc, Muhammad had 12 wives in his life time and he bonked a 9 year old when he was 50+ y/o)
12 wives? ~~ wrong he had 4 wives. and aisha was not 6 years of old she was 14 years of old and just go to flesh back and look at the history thats the fact, people used to marry earlier.

Islam endorses racism.
doesn't make sense at all. prove it.

Islam segregates and views the world population as Muslims and non-Muslims and calls for Muslims to hate the other group, and "terrorize" them.

as you said your mother was muslim too, if she was hated by someone, why did she convert, is she fool, are you her son? why you're so smart lol. if we muslims promote terrorism we should have killed/terrorized billions of other muslims who are converted.

Islam endorses pedophilia.

Just Another Crap

Islam was spread through blood and by sword.

Well it has been happened for more than billion times, if i'd come to you asking plz give me your cell phone, will you give? The war have been fought by more than billion times by every religion and even by non religious peeps too.

Islam proposes barbaric laws (shari'a law).

Barbaric laws? didn't get you clearly

Islam says "fear Allah". I for one would not believe out of fear. I'd rather "love Jesus".

It's your own faith, no need to tell us.

Islam is anti-semitic.
Islam calls for killing of polytheists. (surah at-tawbah)
Islam calls for killing of apostates. (unbelievers)

Do not repeat your words plz lol

Islam is for the ignorant and poor, and exploiters(saudi royals, bruneis, gaddafi, egypt, iraq, ever wondered why Islamic countries are the only dictator-run/monarchist countries besides NK).

because its a pure conspiracy against us, but we're now learning how to handle it.

I can't argue with you if you have your OWN interpretation of the Quran and Hadith as opposed to the popular beliefs.

Then why did you screamed so loudly and posted this reply? =d

The problem is with Islam and Muslims of the world, not you personally.

Okay, its time for me, i'm about to post something after that too.

Go make money but know it in your hard that Allah hates money.

Now is it another hadith? LOL, its like making your own verses

This is for the lulz,

Here's a 50+ y/o prophet that fantasized about bonking a 6 year old girl TWICE in his dream that world's Muslim population lookup to.

You've mistakenly typed wrong i think because you've written 9 a lil before in this post =p.

A peaceful advise, please do not try to teach someone when you don't have actual info about the religions.

The bible has been revised several times and many things have been changed in it as the time passing, so something similar happened with Islam too.

So you've learnt some sort of story book instead of hadith because you don't know how to follow Islam correctly lol

must read my next reply too
 
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The problem is that you actually believe this is how the West thinks.

No one thinks in the above ways. You are mistaken and obviously have no idea how we are viewing each of the situations described above. Nice propaganda for children though.
 
I was very content with this thread down 50 pages where it belonged.

But as long as you brought us the entertaining infographics, I'll let it pass just this once.

REIMktg and I usually don't agree on much, but he's spot on in saying that westerners don't think like all of these examples. You're basically stereotyping us all today for an ignorant view we had a decade or more ago.

Today the evidence against Islam is very, very specific. This site is one of many packed full of overwhelming evidence that no one on the planet can argue with. As you say, Islam has an evil root.

But to say that we think this way about all muslims is in itself a form of prejudice.
 
Hey guys people who are defending islam aren't replying to the valid posts.
They are just replying to those that they have an answer to or starting a whole new argument.

/facepalm
 
Hey guys people who are defending islam aren't replying to the valid posts.
They are just replying to those that they have an answer to or starting a whole new argument.

/facepalm

tell me whats unanswered i'll reply right away =p

Well... PEACE !!! \/