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This is an open ended lightening round. Ask any question you'd like and if its within my small realm of knowledge I'll happily answer it. If you got a good answer to a question feel free to jump in with your own response.

I'm going to heavily moderate this thread and only leave the actual sincere questions and answers so future readers can easily find the good information through all the smart ass remarks(my specialty). So if you got something witty to say don't feel like your being censored in this thread, because you are. :)

Thread will close when it gets too far off topic.

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Ok Eli I'll toss a question out.

We know that Offsite SEO is just as important as onsite SEO, what additional features can you do to improve your rankings besides the usual onsite, title tags, url name, h1,h2,h3,h4 tags, keyword density, ect. and besides the usual offsite seo backlinks, networking by creating smaller sites.

Any tips on how to better find quality backlinks for your sites? or any other quality ways to increase your rankings besides the usual.
 
Aequitas said:
Ok Eli I'll toss a question out.

We know that Offsite SEO is just as important as onsite SEO, what additional features can you do to improve your rankings besides the usual onsite, title tags, url name, h1,h2,h3,h4 tags, keyword density, ect. and besides the usual offsite seo backlinks, networking by creating smaller sites.

Any tips on how to better find quality backlinks for your sites? or any other quality ways to increase your rankings besides the usual.
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Very good question,
If all we're talking about here is offsite SEO than I have a few suggestions outside of the usual lines of thinking. I find that people often get very stuck on their own anchor text. As if that was the only factor in determining "quality" or relevancy of an inbound link. The on site SEO of the site linking to you is just as important when determining the value of your off site seo. Does that make sense? Let's say for instance that you have a car audio site. You get a link within a post on a blog about cars. There is a level of relevancy there because they are talking about cars while your site is talking about car audio. However there is always room for improvement in such a case. Since they linked to you, the subject matter of the site can easily be changed by "overwhelming the original content." For instance even if the post is about cars and your anchor text within the given link isn't very optimal(ie click here), if enough people leave comments on the post their content can overwelm the content of the post itself. In other words the search engines will see that the particular page is about "cars", but if people in the comments (or yourself) flood the comments with enough questions about "car audio" than the search engines will start to see the subject matter change from cars to car audio more specifically. Like you said keyword density plays its part in every document. So I think people see the promotion of their site in the sense of quality and relevancy in the wrong light. If you have the possibility to inject a link on an offsite page than you may just have the possibility of changing the subject matter of the page all together to improve the quality of the link.

Once you understand that then the possibilities to increase the quality of your inbound links on a mass scale become almost infinite. Lets say you are doing some inbound linking on a mass scale for instance. If your doing some link bombing and being blackhat about your links, a good target would naturally be old abandoned posts and link injection possibilities where the original writer stands a smaller chance of removing your link. If you can get the links to stick on a mass scale than by all theory you can flood the page's content and alter the subject matter all together to fit your keywords better. The same goes for any other type of link promotion. It's not just all about the anchor text, it's been proven that links with the proper anchor text accompanied by relevant content work much better than just the link with the proper anchor text alone. Subject hijacking to increase inbound link relevancy? it's entirely possible. Look how certain trackback spammers will repeat their text over and over and over instead of just once to increase the keyword density for their real terms within the document.

I preach this a lot I know, but remember, there are no rules in the SEO game only guidelines. :)
 
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Nice response and I actually never thought about changing the content on the page like that, you just gave me a whole wack more motivation tonight, just what I was looking for, thanks.
 
Damn, I wish I could remember all of the questions I had when I was reading your blog!

In the meantime, that answer gave me a fantastic idea for linking a specific site of mine. Thanks!
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Right now I have 1st page rankings in MSN and Yahoo for a really good keyword, but I can't find myself on Google Anywhere (other than when I type in my domain name)

I'm sure the causes for that could be far and wide, but in your experience, what would you say a site is lacking if it ranks high on msn and yahoo but nowhere on Google?

Thanks dude.
 
CorrectAD said:
Right now I have 1st page rankings in MSN and Yahoo for a really good keyword, but I can't find myself on Google Anywhere (other than when I type in my domain name)

I'm sure the causes for that could be far and wide, but in your experience, what would you say a site is lacking if it ranks high on msn and yahoo but nowhere on Google?

Thanks dude.
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If you absolutely can't find it anywhere for a high traffic term yet you're indexed, I'd have to logically guess that you're sandboxed. How long as your site been in the index?

If sandboxing is your case than Matt Cutts accidentally let the secret to getting unsandboxed out of the bag. When talking about the exceptions to the sandbox he said something along the lines of, "sites that draw a lot of initial attention, like for instance big news stories are compensated for and won't ever be sandboxed." He also said sites like this include ones that widely "capture the attention of news sites and the blogosphere." The moment I read that my mind twirled. Does he mean if i get enough links on blogs I can't get sandboxed or does he mean if over a certain percentage of my links are from blogs my site won't get sandboxed? After I did some tests, i found out both were true. So get some blog links from places that are obviously blogs. I say obvious blogs because Google doesn't always know whats a blog and what isn't, but it can be guaranteed that a something.wordpress.com or something.blogspot.com is always a blog. A program called Comment Hut should work nicely for this.
 
CorrectAD said:
Right now I have 1st page rankings in MSN and Yahoo for a really good keyword, but I can't find myself on Google Anywhere (other than when I type in my domain name)

I'm sure the causes for that could be far and wide, but in your experience, what would you say a site is lacking if it ranks high on msn and yahoo but nowhere on Google?

Thanks dude.
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you could also check your site on SeoDigger Beta to see if it ranks for anything you may not have thought of, in order to rule out the sandbox.
 
The "blackhat sphere": is everyone constantly peaking under the hood, looking for exploits to gain links and mass automate, or are select people making the discoveries while most everyone else is along for the ride, just copying their way to profits? How does one get into this scene?

I had a lot of musings about the "100's of Links an Hour" exploit, but they aren't exactly questions haha. Also, I had a follow-up idea to that I am going to test. You may already be doing it, but I'll let you know the results as a hat tip for posting the technique.
 
wdmny said:
The "blackhat sphere": is everyone constantly peaking under the hood, looking for exploits to gain links and mass automate, or are select people making the discoveries while most everyone else is along for the ride, just copying their way to profits? How does one get into this scene?

I had a lot of musings about the "100's of Links an Hour" exploit, but they aren't exactly questions haha. Also, I had a follow-up idea to that I am going to test. You may already be doing it, but I'll let you know the results as a hat tip for posting the technique.
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Question within a question. You were mostly right, black hat isn't all about finding exploits. It's mostly about mimicking in an automated way. I'm a firm believer that the ultimate goal of a black hat is to actually be white hat. Black hat produces, white hat converts. It's an almost even trade off. If you can convert like a white hat site yet have your production be completely automated than you've found the illustrious golden goose of SEO. A site that completely passes human check yet at the same time is completely autogenned and promoted in a socially acceptable black hat way? Some would call this gray hat. I call it one step further in the quest. If you look at some of the major sites on the internet, most are user contributed content. This in a sense is the ultimate black hat. The content is unique, linkbaitable, and nearly automated. However social sites are a huge investment. The best tactic I've found is to mimic social sites. Everything is fake but looks very much real. In fact, this is a little early, but at the moment I'm currently writing a post on my blog on this exact subject. Feel free to check it out sometime tomorrow. It'll be called "how to be a gray hat." It's pretty in depth so be sure to bring more than one beer when you go to read it.:drinkup:
 
Roughly how much has your $100 a day method generated so far? Is it still generating income?

Has your increased knowledge of the psychology of marketers (or get-rich-quick dreamers?) been more valuable than the method itself?

Great blog and advice here btw - cheers.
 
LazyHippy said:
Roughly how much has your $100 a day method generated so far? Is it still generating income?

Has your increased knowledge of the psychology of marketers (or get-rich-quick dreamers?) been more valuable than the method itself?

Great blog and advice here btw - cheers.
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Nothing I ever post or make public will hurt my own profits, so my $100/day technique still makes at least that. In fact I recently renegotated with Zango and other bundle programs for better margins because they've been doing extremely well. I actually have several screensaver sites. One of which now ranks for the term "screen savers". Many also rank for some large terms such as celebrity names and brand names(ie car names and that type of stuff). So they actually do very well and haven't been harmed a bit by the competition. I also completely changed up the method before I made it public, i also shot for different niches that others probably would never guess.

I'm no psych expert, in fact my only way of knowing if a person is mad at me is when they either try to kick my ass or in a girls case, refuse to sleep with me. My own experience in knowing what other webmasters are likely to do comes from nothing more than my own meandering experience and personal fuck ups. However I know most webmasters will take the screensavers example literally. Most of the money in the method is actually in doing the exact same thing but with different mediums. I'll just spill one for the hell of it, cus I know very few people will actually read this thread. Flash Games. Getting permission from dozens of flash game designers to bundle their games into an exe, then redistributing with an adware bundle is very profitable if not more profitable than the screensavers. Bundling webbased stuff into a downloadable exe is a huge business that has very little competition by comparison to it's size. For instance, if you find an internet provider that has an affiliate program and then you bundle their signup software with your affiliate code built in. Then distribute it as AOL download, people pc download, earthlink download, and such works very well. There's a million possibilities. For just about every niche there is in web based form there is also a downloadable counterpart that is not only easily distributed but also tends to convert better since it's up in there face on their desktop. So that's at least something worth considering.

As far as my own actual earnings go, ya know me :) I never talk about that kind of worthless trash. But the referral earnings from posting that has actually been very minimal. From my count there has been about 18 people who have successfully done the project and reached beyond the $100/day mark. Most seem to be hovering around the $8-$20/day mark and only about 14 total actually signed up through my affiliate link. My referral earnings last month was over $1,000 but under $5,000 from that post. So i would definitely say doing the technique was MUCH more profitable than disclosing it to the public. However I stick by my original statement, the most profitable thing you can do when following the method is to change it up and not follow the stream of blind followers. At least it got people moving and starting to make at least some money. So all in all, i consider it a success :)
 
Eli, you have some unique ideas for promoting online, getting backlinks, content, etc... Do you do anything offline and has it been profitable?
 
Thanks for the thread and people need to realize the value that your providing by doing this.

I have a few basic questions for you:

  1. I have a year old website that has and still does jump anywhere fronm page 1 on google to page 10. One day I'll be strong on page 2 for a few days and then I'm gona again and bumped tp page 3 and then 10. A week or so goes by and then I'm back again. Number one site for my earch term is a pr3 and has been online for 11 years. The site is relevant but 90% of it is dup content with just a few words changed on each page like the stae and city. So my question to you is what would you do to stabilize your rankings and take over a number 1 spot that to me should be fairly easy?
  2. What is the quickest way to get ranked high for a search term where the number 1 spot in the big G is totally worthless and not relevant to what searchers are looking for. Meaning I have a term where every month 100,000 people search for something and their needs are'nt being met. I have a couple blogs and websites that I am running side by side to test how qucik I can rank. What would you do?
  3. What is the best way to get back links in an industry like mortgage moere everyone is a competitor and it's almost impossible to get them free and the costs are high to buy them?
Questions are long but you can keep the answers short if need. Thanks so much Eli!!!!!!
 
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BeerHat said:
Eli, you have some unique ideas for promoting online, getting backlinks, content, etc... Do you do anything offline and has it been profitable?
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If you mean do offline as in promotional techniques for my sites offline, no i don't really. Offline stuff takes a lot of effort. I try to put the minimal effort i have into any single project. Although I have done some offline stuff for a real estate website a long time ago, had to get some real estate agents to participate, so i went and started pitching it around town to get the ball rolling on the site. Or if you mean do i do anything offline to make money, i do have a computer store. :)
 
Eli, thanks for this thread. I have a fairly general question. I don't know how much AM you do, but what do you think is the best way to promote something zip/email submits? Link injection, PPC, whatever?

Thanks.
 
cdc said:
This is quite possibly the most important question ever asked:

Who the hell is Recessive Pat?
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Recessive Pat is the unisex dummy used to teach people CPR and first aid. The dummy is named Pat because Pat can either be a guy's or a girl's name and the dummy itself has no distinguishable features.

My sig is a joke for the people who liked to make out with the dummy and slip it some tongue while practicing mouth-to-mouth just to piss off the teacher.
 
Name 3 sources of content that is readable and covers a massive breadth of keywords and we probably havent thought about..

examples being
Wikipedia
Search Results
Ebay
IMDB
myspace profiles
......
you have 2minutes!
 
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