Ron Paul For President

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LazyHippy said:
Reading Ron Paul's website he sounds very isolationist. That could be a good thing (for the world), but coupled with small government not keeping US multinationals in check then it seems that while the US government may stop trying to run the world, they will be more than happy to allow US companies to carry on doing so.

Interesting to hear the UN and WTO spoke of in similar terms - two organisations that couldn't be more different, though both try to run the world in their way.

Anyone know what his policies are on Israel? Going by the rhetoric it would seem that he might stop the military aid, but would that cost too many votes to state it clearly on his site?

This makes interesting reading...

"[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Our military and political leaders will not be tried by the International Criminal Court..... [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Let us hope and pray that I am wrong on all accounts. If so, I will be very pleased."[/FONT]

Would he, could he send Bush, Cheney, et al to The Hague? That'd be worth a vote!
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Ron Paul isn't isolationist, he is non-interventionist. Clear difference. Essentially meaning we should trade with other countries, but not get involved in their wars if there is no real threat to the country.
 
Certain states have closed primaries. Meaning you have to register as a republican in order to vote for him in the primaries. My state was like that and I was registered as a independent so i had to resend in my voter registration. I just got the confirmation today that they changed it.
Go Ron Paul!

btw here's my fav. vid of him
Ron Paul Stop Dreaming <-not rick roll i promise.
 
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"Why doesn't the government put you on a diet, you're a little overweight."

I wish mainstream candidates would grow the balls to say stuff like this to idiot voters.

Ron Paul is not mainstream and a giraffe will eat leaves off of trees before Ron Paul wins the nomination.
 
Wow, its always nice to wake up and see a topic that expresses your own views supportively.

I've had my eye on Ron Paul for a while and what has bothered me was that I felt that he was such a good candidate, yet I couldn't figure out a way to assist in massively promoting him. I surely don't have the resources, but its always nice to see people who actually share the same views, especially those who are a bit more abundant with regards to resources for promotion. Even with all of this though, it mind boggles me how still so many people in America could, so easily, overlook him.

Ron Paul has grown very popular on the internet, in fact he had an interview on msnbc, I believe it was, where the news reporter acknowledged that fact, but asked him if it would be enough. Of course he was flattered by his growing popularity, but his reply was that he needed funding towards his campaign more than popularity over the internet could help him. I don't think he understands the power of the internet, or at least not my perception of it.

I firmly believe that this guy deserves a fair shot at the presidency, and I think that shedding light on Ron Paul to more people, would help swing their votes. This of course would be history in the making as it would most notably confirm the internet as, arguably, the premier form of mass media with regards to anything. Future presidential campaigns would be forced to spend more time promoting their candidates over the internet, instead of having it as the "icing on the cake".

If you guys have any plans to assist this man into the presidential seat, or at least give him a more fair chance, then count me in, I'd be glad to help. I believe we could implement CLKeenan's desire for a "pay it forward" movement in some shape or fashion.
 
DruSam said:
Ron Paul isn't isolationist, he is non-interventionist. Clear difference. Essentially meaning we should trade with other countries, but not get involved in their wars if there is no real threat to the country.
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and he doesn't seem to be the sort of guy that would create a threat to help his cronies, but what would he do after another 9/11? If - big if - a proper open investigation lead to another country being responsible?

As an outsider the abortion issue is fuckin confusing! (It was dealt with here in the 60s I believe.) How can someone not be against abortion but state:

"The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle."

If "pro-life" means life begins at conception, rather than birth, then morning after pill is also seen as wrong I guess. Logic would suggest this would lead to a lot of unplanned and often unwanted pregnancies and children, which without an extensive state benefits system (such as is common across Europe) would be likely to increase poverty.


I just hope he'd finally sort out New Orleans (come on... Asia has done a lot better after the tsunami) so we can stop seeing those fuckin Google public service ads!
 
LazyHippy said:
and he doesn't seem to be the sort of guy that would create a threat to help his cronies, but what would he do after another 9/11? If - big if - a proper open investigation lead to another country being responsible?

As an outsider the abortion issue is fuckin confusing! (It was dealt with here in the 60s I believe.) How can someone not be against abortion but state:

"The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle."

If "pro-life" means life begins at conception, rather than birth, then morning after pill is also seen as wrong I guess. Logic would suggest this would lead to a lot of unplanned and often unwanted pregnancies and children, which without an extensive state benefits system (such as is common across Europe) would be likely to increase poverty.


I just hope he'd finally sort out New Orleans (come on... Asia has done a lot better after the tsunami) so we can stop seeing those fuckin Google public service ads!
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Look dude, there is all these "what-ifs" and circular arguments about the morality of abortion. But when, it comes right down to it, do you see any better candidates than Ron Paul? And as stated earlier, abortion would be left up to the states, not the federal government.
 
Abortion, taxes, pollution, war, immigration blah blah blah.
Civil liberties will never be a topic of discussion in America until we're no longer allowed to talk about it.
 
DruSam said:
What's funny is that Ron Paul's views are what the traditional republicans and old conservatives believed in. A very small central government, state's rights, the preservation of individual life, liberty, and property. Not to mention, the preservation of our Constitution...

Most, if not all of the other Republican candidates support the neo-conservative foreign policy agenda. Which WILL result in big government and higher intrusion on liberties. They basically believe that individualism is eroding American society, and America should continually be at war in order to unite the nation. Installing democratic governments throughout the world along the way.

Vote Ron Paul.
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Drusam basically nailed it. I'm a republican, and I can tell you that most republicans I know are not happy with the party.

The list geekcognito posted is about right WRT what most common sense people want. I would only add, that I would like to control my own social security.

Stanley has a good point about funding, without cash you ain't going anywhere.

I haven't really taken a look at anyone in particular, but I can tell that the current lineup of jokers isn't going to cut it.

After having seen so many here support him,I will look into Ron Paul.

I think it was smart of him to move into the republican party. As a libertarian, he had 0 chance of winning. At least now he's in a more mainstream party.

He needs to get moving though.
 
DruSam said:
Look dude, there is all these "what-ifs" and circular arguments about the morality of abortion. But when, it comes right down to it, do you see any better candidates than Ron Paul? And as stated earlier, abortion would be left up to the states, not the federal government.
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Sorry man, just trying (struggling) to understand it.

I'm not particularly in favour of minuscule government (I think society should ensure everyone it looked after equally, and governments should keep big business in check), but this is one thing that certainly should be left to the individuals.

Kucinich a better candidate in my opinion. He really is saying something different.

"I have studied the issue for decades and recognize that our "War on Drugs" has failed."

Respect.
 
I like him because he takes the tough decisions, uses his values which are high, and sticks to his values despite being left alone with them. A true leader not a politician.

He was the only Republican to vote against the invasion of Iraq.

I am going to The USA President winner in 2008 and giving $100 right now.

4 Years (or 8) in office is a long time, but he is someone I know would make the right decisions on topics that come up, including abortion, foreign policy, and the budget.

How many politicians can you say that about?
 
Ok Jon started this thinking that we could help Ron Paul by helping with his marketing. I know the group here could do that. We know SEO and viral marketing. If you like Ron Paul and want him to win consider doing that. On his Ron Paul 2008 Hope for Americawebsite there are links on the left bottom to the usual Web 2.0 stuff : facebook, myspace, flickr, digg, youtube, etc.... I think you know what you could do with these by linking, pinging, bookmarking, squirting, blogging etc......

O and offline is important too. So I donated:

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Go Ron Paul!
 
I don't think Ron Paul needs any more "help" than he already has. There are lots of allegations of rigging online polls & gaming digg already going on. (of which I could give a flying fuck, considering the hard left online publications that make digg daily.) Either way, the ideas speak for themselves

I have been reading Ron Paul's writings for years now and am very happy to see just how much acceptance there is now, on a national level. In many regards he has already seen success. There is little question in my mind that he ran for any other reason to get the ideas of freedom out, and that certainly has been done.
 
i just added him to my blogroll and i did mention him in a post in the past. If anythign it'll help boost his technorati rank.

If i could get a nice ad i'd gladly put that up.
 
Andrew said:
I don't think Ron Paul needs any more "help" than he already has. There are lots of allegations of rigging online polls & gaming digg already going on. (of which I could give a flying fuck, considering the hard left online publications that make digg daily.) Either way, the ideas speak for themselves
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Ya the mainstream press keeps pushing his ideas away or discounting the stories and polls as skewed by internet fanatics. I have the sick feeling if someone like Hillary, Guillani, or Obama had that kind of internet viral marketing they would just eat it up and not question it.

If you do promote him dont bother making your server rampage some poll, do something real please.

Do something the press cant ignore like donations, signs, peaceful marches, door to door stuff....
 
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