Ron Paul...
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His "core supporters" won't get him elected. He needs the mainstream, and in order to gain that he needs to look good. He looks like he's dying, if you can't see how much that hurts him you're an idiot.
So you're saying that if RP dressed better, he'd lose supporters? WTF are you talking about? What does tailoring a suit have anything to do with his political message? If he dresses nicer, he's suddenly less genuine? The shittier you look, the more genuine you are?
Chillax, your gayness, I get it; appearances matter to such an ill-informed public. I do agree with cziffra tho that his core peeps, like many on this board, would lose respect for him if after all these decades playing by his own rules he suddenly starts conforming now though.
Honestly I know he has no chance to win; but I plan to vote for him anyway just to keep a clear conscience. His dress code couldn't matter less to me.
Even if he did win they'd JFK his ass so fast it really just doesn't matter at all. Queue Bohemian Rhapsody.
What a moron...
Placing aside the whole 'can't live long when assasinated' issue, did you ever think that perhaps the reason all of our presidents age so quickly is because they are being pressured beyond imagination by the powers that be? (To do things like protect the banks, give bailouts, and invade libya/iraq/afganistan?)
Paul clearly won't be pressured. That's why they'll kill him outright if he wins.
Does it make you feel like you've done a good job defending your country and Obama when you make such rednecky, overly-patriotic remarks?
You remind me of a stupidly-obedient terrier thinking you've defended your master well when in truth your master wishes you'd just stop yapping all the damn time...
:usa::usa::usa:HURR GO USA DURR!!!:usa::usa::usa:
Nah, no one's saying that. The general appeal among Paul fans is that he's been so damn consistent for so long... If he were to throw that all away now by conforming for the first time in 3 decades of service then of course we'd lose respect for him!
Clothes are just one small part of his total persona. He's been 100% consistant on his ENTIRE persona for decades and that is simply impressive as hell to anyone smart enough to notice.
Right now, knowing that he'll lose anyway, I plan on voting Paul. If he starts pandering before the primary though, I won't. It's that simple.
Dressing better isn't going to hurt his image with present backers. They don't support him because he dresses like everyone else, they support him because of his stances on issues and the genuine way he comes across.
I haven't noticed his bad suits until someone brought it up in this thread but it is a big deal, especially to women voters because they notice this kind of thing. The fact that he's old doesn't help with women as a lot of women stupidly just pick the most attractive politician and go with him.
Because of this, it's important that he at least look like he's rich and successful as it can really shape a voter's view of that candidate.
I voted for RP and will again, but the rabid dogmatism is growing ever more obnoxious. You guys realize you put people off with that shit, right?
If all you holy faithful purists wouldn't care if he debated in a mankini, then what possible reason is there for him to not dress well for the greater majority of voters who do care about how candidates present themselves? You don't care how he looks, so what's the problem?
If all you holy faithful purists wouldn't care if he debated in a mankini, then what possible reason is there for him to not dress well for the greater majority of voters who do care about how candidates present themselves? You don't care how he looks, so what's the problem?
The reason people judge by appearance is because of their experience with people that appear in certain ways.
RP looks and much more importantly handles himself like a nerd/whimp. With that we cannot respect that he will stand up and lead. He's an ankle biter - nothing more.
Don't get me wrong, Romney - Perry etc - they may be just as "squishy" and not be able to stand up to anything - but at least they do not initially look it.... well Romney does somewhat/sometimes but not as much as Paul. This is why nobody liked Jindal when he made his national debut - he looked & more importantly handled himself like a little nerdy kid in a suit that did not fit.
RP looks and much more importantly handles himself like a nerd/whimp. With that we cannot respect that he will stand up and lead. He's an ankle biter - nothing more.
Don't get me wrong, Romney - Perry etc - they may be just as "squishy" and not be able to stand up to anything - but at least they do not initially look it.... well Romney does somewhat/sometimes but not as much as Paul. This is why nobody liked Jindal when he made his national debut - he looked & more importantly handled himself like a little nerdy kid in a suit that did not fit.
People hire nerds. People buy products/services from nerds. People respect their intellect. People will listen and use their innovations.
People do not look to them for leadership.
Ron Paul doesn't just have an image problem, he has a truth problem. I've never seen such a horrible politician but that's a compliment to who he is as a person and explains why he'll never get elected. His son is better at the politics game but don't expect to see him on the national stage anytime soon.
He really should spiff up his wardrobe and use better posture. It's his ties that make me cringe.
But to stick by his principles for 30 years in the face of overwhelming opposition and ridicule means this man has bigger cajones than anyone else in Congress. Sometimes he reminds me of an old indian chief that should be revered for his wisdom.
I don't believe he'd be weak on defense at all; he just doesn't see the point in going to war for oil price control or to set the country up with a private central bank.
Let me throw out an analogy -- would you buy a site that looked like shit (think Drudge Report; probably not a good choice because it's not exactly content rich) with a lot of traffic or a slick professionally-designed site that has 100 visitors a month.
To some of us, Ron Paul is a no brainer.
Yeah, I get what you are saying, and it makes sense intellectually, but it does not fly instinctually.
People want to follow someone that they know is strong & a true leader.
The fact that he has stood up to others for 30+ years, taking ridicule, etc - how is that not different than the schoolyard nerd that sticks to his inappropriate comments, because he thinks he is right, while he gets socially rejected. No one wants to be his friend, no one likes him, no one even wants to be around him - oh, but he is "right".
You have to be a nerd yourself to not see this.
I'm amazed at how many people on a MARKETING forum can't understand OP's point.
Anyone that has ever done ANY split testing on ads, knows that appearance is important. Who gives a fuck if your offer is the most "principled" product on the planet if no one will "click the ad" so to speak? OP is right.
I guess it's just a difference in perspective, but I've always taken his physical stature as more grandfatherly and trusting. I think people can vote for experience and authenticity. I guess he only looks like someone who gets picked if you like kicking around gramps.
Although I will admit, when I first saw years ago him I immediately thought of Bernard from Boston legal
Yeah, quite ironic.
Looks are especially important with women as I've stated before. If he's to have a chance against someone like Romney, he has to come across as a well-dressed successful man, just as his opponent is doing.
His stances on issues won't be enough to win over women.