Russian Army Invades Ukraine And Seizes Crimea

jriddick said:
The U.S. isn't going anywhere. To even suggest otherwise is pure insanity. You've been watching RT too much.



A whole lot of nonsense to imply that the U.S. will invade Ukraine because... it wants to frack there?

Newsflash, Russia has already invaded. It most definitely wants the natural resources there. The American public is tired of war and is not starting another one anytime soon. To say this is some grand conspiracy by America to invade Ukraine solely so it can begin fracking is clinical insanity of the highest order and reeks of propaganda that probably originated from the Kremlin itself.

Yet you and the rest of the loons somehow ignore Russia's blatant imperialism and blast the U.S. for.. what exactly? Obama has been as flaccid as any president can be during this situation. What did he approve so far? Some measly sanctions? I'm sure Putin is trembling right now.

And that video above is quite stunning, by the way. The citizen facing the imperialist invaders, automatic weaponry at the ready. Those mercenaries would murder that man in a heartbeat if they didn't have strict orders from their superiors not to shed blood... yet. The Russians know that would be on every news channel and so their aggression will be hyper-calibrated. But it is quite a chilling scene, watching a lone citizen facing armed thugs who are only an order away from pumping his body with bullets. Russian imperialist scum.
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Iraq was also a sovereign nation - Lets not forget that one.

Russia is allowed to have up to 25k solders in Crimea (Putin is doing it by the book) Nobody is shooting anybody - thats a fact. I'm not saying it isnt an invasion. Just dont give me that US / EU evil Russia propaganda bullshit. Like CNN, Fox, BBC is any better than RT.

I'm not saying Putin good USA / EU bad. The reality is this whole thing isnt about helping people or promoting fair democracy.
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jriddick said:
The U.S. isn't going anywhere. To even suggest otherwise is pure insanity. You've been watching RT too much.
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I dont watch RT. If you believe US / Nato doesn't invade other countries you need find some better news sources.
 


It's interesting being american and watching our behavior being carried out by someone else for a change... But all I can think anymore when I hear about this shit is "statists gonna state."

Putin, obama, Lenin, Napolean, Hitler... Same shit different day.

It all needs to go away.
 
lukep said:
It's interesting being american and watching our behavior being carried out by someone else for a change... But all I can think anymore when I hear about this shit is "statists gonna state."

Putin, obama, Lenin, Napolean, Hitler... Same shit different day.

It all needs to go away.
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Evolution not Revolution. People have been bred to think they need hand holding.
 
lukep said:
It's interesting being american and watching our behavior being carried out by someone else for a change... But all I can think anymore when I hear about this shit is "statists gonna state."

Putin, obama, Lenin, Napolean, Hitler... Same shit different day.

It all needs to go away.
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Who is "our" and "someone else"?

"Countries" rarely declare war or invade or kill people. Individuals do. Individuals normally brainwashed and financed by the state.

It's all shadow warfare bro, and none of us have a clue what's going on.

How many countries do you think the U.S. officially has boots on the ground in right now? As of 2011 about 60%. My current estimate would be 100%.

How many "rebels" or "terrorists" has the CIA funded and trained? How many people do drones kill every week? How many proxy wars are we fighting (openly or secretly)?

For all we know the U.S., EU, Russia and god knows who else are all on the same page here.

The real threat today is (dis)information. They want the masses to believe it's "US" (the U.S.) vs. "Them" (Russia) when in reality it's most likely "US" (the peasants) vs. "Them" (the profiteers).

They control the conversation. It's a great way to make sure we're having the wrong debates about the wrong issues - while making sure that no matter who the masses rally for it's going to be "them".

Smart marketers.

Evil bastards.

I know I'm preaching to the choir for the most part, but I wanted to throw that out there.
 
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lukep said:
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Putin, obama, Lenin, Napolean, Hitler... Same shit different day.

It all needs to go away.
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I see a lot of people makes a really bad mistake (especially in US and west of EU).
Let's get it straight.
Putin, Stalin and Hitler are in a no way comparable to Obama, Napoleon or Bush or any of western politicians.
Also, US, EU (most of countries and especially west) are not comparable to Russia, and former ZSRR republics that are not in the EU yet.

Maybe they keep saying that BS because they have a comfort of living in states and their country was never destroyed by war, and people exterminated by fucking freaks like Hitler (or Putin that is silently killing anyone willing to have a different opinion).

It's nothing new that everyone is going after power and new territories, but they way it's done actually matters. Ask regular Ukrainians or Russians if given chance where would they like to live? Or would they like their country to be more like US or maybe it's just fine as it is?

If Putin was a US president and people in US would live like Russians today..errr.. wrong! That's not possible because they would kill motherfucker ASAP.

I have clients in Kiev and those are people that are doing quite fine, and they are not fascists or other shit. They are regular people who just want to make business, and they told me that things have to change and that the last gov was a freaking terror and bunch of criminals. So different day yes, but no for same shit.

I'm lucky because lived in both western and eastern countries (former ZSRR), and there is a very noticeable difference in the way of thinking. Believe me, if there is any possibility to get rid of guys like Putler etc. it has to be done for good of the entire world.
BTW, Patton was the best US general, in 45 he had idea to go and fight soviet army so to get rid of communists forever (army was already in Europe, good conditions to go to Moscow...) Unfortunately, they didn't listen to him...
So now they have, monkey with nuclear button. Putin doesn't know WIN-WIN theory, he only know WIN-LOSE so he won't hesitate twice to use that button and make a hard reset of the world.
 
Is this plausible or just another conspiracy? Thoughts?

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andrewkar said:
I see a lot of people makes a really bad mistake (especially in US and west of EU).
Let's get it straight.
Putin, Stalin and Hitler are in a no way comparable to Obama, Napoleon or Bush or any of western politicians.
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Oh but let me count the ways!

  • Have they each murdered, in cold blood without remorse, thousands or more people in other countries? Check.
  • Have they each governed over a political machine that murdered thousands or more people in their own countries? Check.
  • Do they each control the minds of their subjects with propaganda and lethal force if necessary? Check.
  • Have they each added more laws stealing freedom from their subjects? Check.
  • Do they each have such braying sheep like yourself defending his team against the "evil" enemy that would supposedly harm him worse than he would? Check.

Power corrupts 100% of the politicians that get it. It just takes time for pre-existing laws to be broken down enough for the really horrible shit to start happening.

And guess what? Obomba just broke the last few laws that holds holocaust-like behavior in check. No matter who is next in line, they are going to abuse that power and be like Hitler, Pol pot, or Lenin. Even Rand Paul, he'll come up with ways to kill tens of millions of people because nothing is stopping it, and power will corrupt him to do so. (If obomba doesn't beat him to it.)


andrewkar said:
If Putin was a US president and people in US would live like Russians today..errr.. wrong! That's not possible because they would kill motherfucker ASAP.
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Are you actually claiming that the american people would rise up against a real tyrant and throw him out of the whitehouse? But then who would sign their welfare checks? And wouldn't they miss jersey shore?

At least Putin didn't sign an executive order stating that he has the right to kill you without a trial on his say-so alone. In fact I don't think even Hitler did that! It used to be that tyrants would keep quiet about their scary ambitions but nowadays we have a much bolder form of scary brewing.


andrewkar said:
if there is any possibility to get rid of guys like Putler etc. it has to be done for good of the entire world.
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There is, it's called P2P decentralization, including Bitcoin... And I almost respect Putin as an adversary because he's the only leader out there that was smart enough to see the threat and make it illegal. His country may be one of the last to fall from decentralization, but it's still unavoidable given time, unless he closes his borders and rips out the internet.


andrewkar said:
Patton was the best US general
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So you call people who are the most skilled at murder "the best?"

I think we've found the root of your problem.

Maybe Truman was 'the best' in that case for dropping nuclear bombs on 2 peaceful cities in Japan?


andrewkar said:
Putin doesn't know WIN-WIN theory, he only know WIN-LOSE so he won't hesitate twice to use that button and make a hard reset of the world.
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I'm pretty sure he's been advised that everyone dies in the nuclear winter if he pushes that button. Stop sounding hysterical; he's a scary mobster, not a suicidal fool.
 
andrewkar said:
I see a lot of people makes a really bad mistake (especially in US and west of EU).
Let's get it straight.
Putin, Stalin and Hitler are in a no way comparable to Obama, Napoleon or Bush or any of western politicians.
Also, US, EU (most of countries and especially west) are not comparable to Russia, and former ZSRR republics that are not in the EU yet.

Maybe they keep saying that BS because they have a comfort of living in states and their country was never destroyed by war, and people exterminated by fucking freaks like Hitler (or Putin that is silently killing anyone willing to have a different opinion).

It's nothing new that everyone is going after power and new territories, but they way it's done actually matters. Ask regular Ukrainians or Russians if given chance where would they like to live? Or would they like their country to be more like US or maybe it's just fine as it is?

If Putin was a US president and people in US would live like Russians today..errr.. wrong! That's not possible because they would kill motherfucker ASAP.

I have clients in Kiev and those are people that are doing quite fine, and they are not fascists or other shit. They are regular people who just want to make business, and they told me that things have to change and that the last gov was a freaking terror and bunch of criminals. So different day yes, but no for same shit.

I'm lucky because lived in both western and eastern countries (former ZSRR), and there is a very noticeable difference in the way of thinking. Believe me, if there is any possibility to get rid of guys like Putler etc. it has to be done for good of the entire world.
BTW, Patton was the best US general, in 45 he had idea to go and fight soviet army so to get rid of communists forever (army was already in Europe, good conditions to go to Moscow...) Unfortunately, they didn't listen to him...
So now they have, monkey with nuclear button. Putin doesn't know WIN-WIN theory, he only know WIN-LOSE so he won't hesitate twice to use that button and make a hard reset of the world.
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I don't often call someone stupid, but when I do, it's you.

What a god damn brainwashed sheep you are. The last two wars Putin have been in have been carried out with hardly any loss of life at all and in Crimea, hardly any shots fired.

The US on the other hand has killed hundreds of thousands within the last couple of decades, bombed the shit out of civilians and killed thousand of innocent children.

How is it possible to be this god damn stupid?

Serious, I am in shock, you must be kidding me or you have a hidden agenda.

Damn.
 
Whatever happens, I hope they don't require a Russian visa to travel to Crimea. That form is like filling out a job application. Plus, you need an "invitation." Ridiculous.
 
jacky8 said:
So Iraq, Afghanistan and now Crimea are actually about defending Stargates?
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Well, yeah. You think the armies are there due to oil and geopolitical reasons, or something?

Nonetheless, looks like everything in Crimea will be fine. Russia hasn't fired a single shot, hasn't encroached into Ukraine any more, etc. Now the world leaders just need to talk it out, and figure out a way they can all look like the hero coming out of this.
 
Seinfeld saw this coming in the 90s.

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