Soccer Is Fucking Gay

Saying soccer is for faggots/gay is plain retarded.. I mean it might make sense in the USA where there is comparitively low support for it but in pretty much everyone other country in the world being a football fan is a pretty manly thing. Getting pissed up, rowdy and fighting is a pretty common theme of football fans around the world.

Just because you like getting pissed on doesn't mean everyone does.

;)
 


2 changes for professional football/soccer:

Retroactive red cards - Anyone found diving will be given an automatic red card with a minimum 1 game suspension upon video review of the game. No pro-player would risk the suspension.

Instant replay review on critical calls - Fouls resulting in scoring opportunities, offsides on goals, red cards, ect. Not perfect, but would stop a lot of the bullshit calls and dives.

Too bad FIFA would never instate this. They're a bunch of corrupt assholes.
 
why not just get rid of offsides? seems like it would make everything better.

I think blatant offsides would suck.

But I think if they instituted a 2 or 3 yard threshhold for offsides, the games would be much more fun to watch because of the higher scoring. There are too many questionable calls by the refs who are ruining potential plays
 
So I watched the ending of the Italy vs Slovakia game and it reminded me why I stopped watching soccer in the first place.

dont maker your decision on the Italy/Slovakia game dude lol. those teams are boring as shit to watch

All in all, this World Cup has SUCKED thus far. But it will get better and there will be better games.
 
Rock em sock em robots > soccer

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Your post will never change anyone's opinion, just entice them into an argument.

Who the fuck wastes that much time writing a thread?! I'd of out sourced that much typing..
 
I have a question for you "soccer haters".

When was the last time you won a World Cup at any team sport that made the whole nation go on the streets and celebrate?
 
100 million US viewers of the World Cup 2006 Football matches. Expecting an increase this year, as they do every WC.

The most supporters who've travelled to South Africa to watch (some 40k) second only to the host nation in numbers.

Yeah, no one gives a shit about "soccer" in the US :rolleyes:
 
why not just get rid of offsides? seems like it would make everything better.

Sadly not, offsides do serve a useful purpose and believe it or not it results in lower scoring games. Before the rule was implemented, the game often descended into something resembling ping-pong, where teams would hit it aimlessly long in the hope it found a man. It meant everyone had to ridiculously defend deep (close to their on goal line) and there was little incentive to push forward because you'd be undone by a long kick up field.

It also adds the element of excitement when a skillful, defense-splitting pass is made that is picked up by a nippy striker who goes 1-on-1.

If you ever (and I doubt if you're from the US you ever have) played football in the school playground you'll recall 'goal hangers'- annoying kids who were shit but stood next to the goal in the hope a loose ball found them that they could tap in. That's basically what the game can be like without offsides.
 
I don't think I can reply properly to everyone but I'll skim through this. Oh and before I do keep in mind I never said I hated the actual sport - I said it was gay because of x x x...I think it can be great if they fix a lot of these issues. I dunno if all the other haters think like this I'm just speaking for myself here...ok here we go.

I don't get get why people like you and Rage who supposedly "hate" soccer waste time watching it, then turn around and waste more of your own time ranting about how gay it is and what a waste of time it is to watch.

Yes, soccer is gay, that is why I and many others don't watch it nor waste any time staying up to date on its highlights.

I don't normally watch it...only reason I turned it on was because a friend who's at work asked me to let him know what the score is at final since there was only about 10 minutes left. I was near the tv so I was like ok wtf and turned it on. Only time I will watch it is if Poland is in it (that's where I was born)...kinda like all the Americans who never watch hockey tuning into the Olympic gold game.

No matter how much you want it to be, soccer or rather FOOTBALL, won't become handegg..opps I mean NFL.

Never watched a full game of NFL in my life so yeah, that's not why I'm hating. As a matter of fact I think football is pretty gay too ( OH SNAP now I pissed off all my supporters in this thread, ok it's in no way gay like soccer I just can't stand all the time in between plays, kinda like baseball. But let's forget about this and not turn it into a football thread :) )

Any game that you play for 90+ minutes and the end score is 0-0...is a fucking waste of time. World Cup..couldn't give a shit.

^THIS...only time there's any high scoring it's usually a really strong team vs. a shitty team...GET MORE GOALS in the game. You don't have to take the skill away, simply change the rules up a bit to allow for more scoring. We'll get to that shortly...

1) That's what stoppage time is for. If you noticed, the refs added 4 minutes of stoppage time to the Italy-Slovakia game, but it ended at ~96 minutes. Why? Because the refs recognized that Slovakia was wasting time, so they just continued the game for an extra 2 minutes. Yellow cards are given if it's obvious he's pretending, but it's often only obvious when you're sitting at home watching it in slow-mo replay. In realtime, it's very difficult to see if they're diving or not.

Players frequently help others get up, except in the last ~10 minutes of a game that could decide their fate in the biggest soccer event of the world. At that point, anything goes. I assume you're referring to Cannavaro being a dick at the end. He was just pissed because he knew his country could be going home early in the event they won 4 years ago.

2) That is certainly a strategy and a tactic. I agree it's gay and I don't think players should do it, but it's a tactic nonetheless. See point 1 for why they don't stop time. A method for making up that time is built into the game.

3) The blown offsides call in the USA-Algeria game NEARLY cost us the game, and I think that's what you're referring to. Regardless, it does often change the course of a game. Refs are nearly always right with offsides, but people tend to focus on the blown calls (of course, that's logical). It's a part of the game, and the players have to deal with it and play with it. Like you said, nothing will be perfect. FIFA have talked again and again about the offsides rule, but the one they have in place really is the best for the game. I'd be interested in hearing what you thing would be better, because I actually like the current implementation.

Hope that helps you see everything from a soccer fan's point of view

Uhh too much to reply to, just some quick points:

1) Didn't know they started giving out cards for that - they should give them out more often. Still the time isn't adjusted accordingly, it's like a rough estimate or whatever.

2) gay, but you know this already.

3) I'll get to that below...I think.

Didn't feel like responding to the rest of your post, but your idea here solves nothing. If you stopped the clock every time there was an injury (or pretend injury), people would dive just to stop the clock (to get a break in the action).

The best thing they could do is add another ref or two to the field. Why should one ref have to cover a whole field by himself? Have one ref in the middle, one on both sides (near the goals), and finally, the side judges. This would provide enough coverage of the game, where people would see things from multiple angles. Reviewing the match once its over for obvious flops and penalizing those players would also do away with a lot of diving and fake injuries.

Rage already answered this - it works in hockey too. Your point is not valid because I said to get those fuckers off the field. If you had to sit out to "recover" from your "injury" for 20 min you wouldn't have everyone rolling around on the field every 2 minutes now would you?

Not so constructive, need to get your facts right but I get that you're venting.

The diving and feigning injuries is an utter embarrassment for the sport, I agree with you about that. I think its a cultural thing, certainly some countries seem more likely to try it on than others. You don't see English players feign injury as much but in South America, as an example, conning the referee is often seen as a skill of the game.

Unfortunately this gives a team a competitive edge, and therefore almost forces other teams to do the same in order to compete and, because professional sport is a high revenue business, whatever you can do to get a competitive edge is fair game.



Bullshit, it has and continues to change just about as much as any other sport. Couple of recent changes - the offside rule gets tinkered with virtually every season, the diving rule was brought in relatively recently, the back passes rule was brought in, goal line technology is fiercely debated continuously, extra refs added, yada, yada.


Your suggestions:

1) We all want the gay pretending you're hurt shit to go. The problem is telling when they are faking. If it was obvious, it would be an easy problem to fix, and FIFA has tried a few things in the past, but none have been overly successful.



Hell yeah, great idea! Why don't they do that? Oh wait, they already have that rule. What's it called? The diving rule... And it gets used a lot (also in this world cup) - sometimes correctly but also a lot of the time incorrectly which is the problem.



2) Refs already do stop time for injuries and do try to be relatively accurate. The problem is that the existing precedent is that anything more than 5 minutes of stoppage time is very rare so presently the ref keeps adding the time up until it gets about there and then cap it. Could be fixed by FIFA telling refs to accurate accrue all stoppages and add it on, but then games could go on for an extra 20-30 minutes.

Also, could be possible that teams may start using this as a tactic, extending games as long as possible by feigning as many injuries as possible, to gain an advantage? Would be terrible for the sport and make it very poor entertainment.

Better solution is try and prevent the diving/feigning in the first place which is what FIFA tries to do (see point 1 above).


3) The offside rule gets changed almost every season and is fiercely and continuously debated. If you can think of a definition of the offside rule that would fix the problems, then by all means tell us this golden nugget of wisdom and I'm pretty sure FIFA would take it onboard in a hearbeat. But just saying "Change the offside rule" and then not giving an better alternative is just a bullshit whinge.

You gotta admit though, all the incorrect decisions, etc create quite a lot of drama, excitement and talking points in the games. By introducing this element of chance, every team believes they can win any game and that's where a lot of the passion comes from. Sports entertainment is about balancing chance and skill.

1) again sorry didn't realize this, they obviously don't call it enough because the players aren't too deterred to do it.

2) Shorten the time to 60 min and your problem is solved. Injuries - get the fucker off the field for 20 min or X amount of time, problem solved

3) Yeah umm something along NHL offsides would be better...you'd get more break aways, more goals, more action

people who hate the WC of soccer is gay. it's about your national pride. it's not just a game in the wc...it's more about your blood. you should represent this country.

i'm all for south korea and the US. gotta represent

I watch when Poland plays.

Oh and umm I forgot bizzykehl - icing is not stupid, there's consequences for icing the puck - face off in your zone, you can't do a line change. As a matter of fact they should put something similar in soccer so you can't just keep kicking the ball all the way down which causes the majority of the boring back and forth play. I don't know how you'd do this exactly and I never said I had all the answers but it's something that should be looked at. And umm, they do have off-sides in hockey just fyi...k I'm done for now.
 
I have to say, I agree with the points on diving, retrospective cards etc. The game does need to be cleaned up a lot at the top of the sport.

Henry's handball denying Ireland being a case in point.

But as we've said, it's very difficult to do without taking away the free flowing nature of the game. Diving etc however should certainly be dealt with by after-match video analysis.
 
Team sports need high-scoring outcomes to get the interest of us Americans. Either that or fights. We love seeing fights. So, here's what it boils down to. We want to see men either score high or fight. Or both. A high-scoring fight club would be great. That said, soccer is definitely not gay.*




* Nope. It's gay.
 
Team sports need high-scoring outcomes to get the interest of us Americans. Either that or fights. We love seeing fights. So, here's what it boils down to. We want to see men either score high or fight. Or both. A high-scoring fight club would be great. That said, soccer is definitely not gay.*




* Nope. It's gay.

Alright, you've figured it out. The World Cup is basically just a world wide gay pride event disguised as a sporting spectacle.

Even in England we just go to sing songs to each other:
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(^real Tottenham Hotspur fans)
 
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Soccer...great athletes, supremely gay.
 
Sorry guys, Lawnball totally take the cakes.

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Many of you "soccer haters" won't change your mind but...

You definitely aren't the voice of America. On ESPN/Univision, the American audience for USA/Algeria was 8.6 million; just remember that it was shown on the morning of a weekday and most people would have been watching it in bars. Not to mention that the USA supporters have bought more tickets than any other country for the World Cup.
 
Many of you "soccer haters" won't change your mind but...

You definitely aren't the voice of America. On ESPN/Univision, the American audience for USA/Algeria was 8.6 million; just remember that it was shown on the morning of a weekday and most people would have been watching it in bars. Not to mention that the USA supporters have bought more tickets than any other country for the World Cup.

Yes. You are correct. Here's my theory:

Most of America tuned in for one reason, and one reason only. Our press has covered the vuvuzela horns ad nauseum. I am convinced nine of ten viewers mistook the vuvuzela for the vulva. Hence, their attention.

To say they are disappointed is an understatement.
 
Many of you "soccer haters" won't change your mind but...

You definitely aren't the voice of America. On ESPN/Univision, the American audience for USA/Algeria was 8.6 million; just remember that it was shown on the morning of a weekday and most people would have been watching it in bars. Not to mention that the USA supporters have bought more tickets than any other country for the World Cup.

They won't even acknowledge these points man as they don't fit their hate agenda.