Terrorism comes to Australia

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A week ago Australia had its biggest terrorism raid in its history. Across two cities and hundreds of police officers, helicopters, swat, etc several homes were raid and 15 people were arrested. The said the terrorists were influenced by ISIS and were planning to kidnap and behead random people in the streets of Sydney.

The day after the raid 14 of the 15 people were released free and not charged with anything. Today the 15th person was set free after a $500 fine for owning an illegal taser with no further charges.

Also today at the same time the last "terrorist" was set free. A new one showed up outside of Melbourne where one single man stabbed two police officers and was shot dead. They found an ISIS flag in the man's home and also said he had plans to behead people.

The government has already asked for sweeping new anti-terroisim laws because terrorism has finally come to Australia. Two days from now the prime minister will go before the UN and talk about the new terrorist threat here and ask for assistance.

Absolutely fucking amazing.
 


I think it's (except for today, people were injured) the most hilarious thing I have heard in a long time. The news for a whole week and everyone on the street was talking about how terrorists were here and they were not safe. People were scared to go out and the tv fear mongered like crazy.

Then we find out it was all made up and total bullshit and everyone was set free. This is clearly a ploy by the government to pass new sweeping laws and get free money from the UN to defend itself.

If this was back in the states we would have never got the news that they were set free. It would have been swept under the rug and the fear would remain.
 
BeerNuts said:
A week ago Australia had its biggest terrorism raid in its history. Across two cities and hundreds of police officers, helicopters, swat, etc several homes were raid and 15 people were arrested. The said the terrorists were influenced by ISIS and were planning to kidnap and behead random people in the streets of Sydney.

The day after the raid 14 of the 15 people were released free and not charged with anything. Today the 15th person was set free after a $500 fine for owning an illegal taser with no further charges.

Also today at the same time the last "terrorist" was set free. A new one showed up outside of Melbourne where one single man stabbed two police officers and was shot dead. They found an ISIS flag in the man's home and also said he had plans to behead people.

The government has already asked for sweeping new anti-terroisim laws because terrorism has finally come to Australia. Two days from now the prime minister will go before the UN and talk about the new terrorist threat here and ask for assistance.

Absolutely fucking amazing.
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that train's never late.
 
Ahhh, good, was just making sure. Wasn't sure if you thought it was an actual threat, or just bullshit. Yeah, I pretty much thought the same when I first seen the news. It was a little, err... head scratching. They got on national news all proud, and basically said, "several hundred police officers conducted a massive operation across Sydney today, and we managed to arrest some people who talked badly on the internet. Terrorism is here!"

Ummm, ok... heh. Seemed like a pretty heavy handed operation to me, but what the hell, who am I to judge?

Then Facebook is lighting up right now with people, "Fuck yeah! We're bombing Syria! Fuck those ISIS savages!", and all I can do is shake my head in disgust, and laugh about it. Come on guys, after 13 years of being spoon fed this bullshit, you still haven't figured it out?
 
Maybe I missed it but did Donald Rumsfeld and uncle Dick Cheney become advisors to Herr Abbot?
 
Fatbat said:
So these are all just movie props and special effects?

https://www.google.com/search?q=isi...AQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1920&bih=1115#imgdii=_
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Maybe the US should quit creating, funding, training, and arming terrorist organizations, and we wouldn't have to worry about terrorists so much. Oh, and stop bombing other countries into the stone age might help too.

You can't possibly believe the creation and growth of ISIS is natural, and didn't get a good amount of help along the way.
 
Kiopa_Matt said:
Maybe the US should quit creating, funding, training, and arming terrorist organizations, and we wouldn't have to worry about terrorists so much. Oh, and stop bombing other countries into the stone age might help too.

You can't possibly believe the creation and growth of ISIS is natural, and didn't get a good amount of help along the way.
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It doesn't really matter how they came to be. They're a problem now, that's only getting bigger, that needs to be dealt with. Or do you believe they should just be left unchecked to do what they want, slaughtering thousands who don't believe in their particular flavor of zealotry? Sometimes we create monsters so heinous that they need to be destroyed.
 
I have no idea what the solution is. All I know is invading and bombing the shit out of Syria is only going to make the situation worse. Really, how many countries do we have to put back into the stone age, before we realize this methodology doesn't work, and only makes things worse?

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt just as a few examples, are all now totally fucked thanks to us. Yet, there's people who think bombing Syria is a good idea, and the way to a better world. That blows my mind.

Besides, what do you think ISIS is going to do? Invade Germany, or something? The biggest (publicly known) terror threat we've had recently is 300 cops in Australia raided about 25 houses, arrested 15 people, then subsequently let them all go because they couldn't charge them with anything.

Not to mention, obviously I have no proof of this or anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA is capable of whispering orders into the ears of ISIS leadership, and having them actually listen. There's a reason ISIS' primary goal is to remove the border between Iraq and Syria.
 
Kiopa_Matt said:
I have no idea what the solution is.
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So you're not prepared to offer a viable solution, yet you're prepared to criticize the decision makers in the west for doing something to slow or halt the ISIS advance on civilian populations that they are hell bent on executing, because bombing is bad m'kay.

At least they're doing something instead of sitting around with their thumb up their ass while tens of thousands are slaughtered through ethnic cleansing. It might not be the best solution, but I honestly can't see a better option at this point.
 
Kiopa_Matt said:
I have no idea what the solution is. All I know is invading and bombing the shit out of Syria is only going to make the situation worse. Really, how many countries do we have to put back into the stone age, before we realize this methodology doesn't work, and only makes things worse?

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt just as a few examples, are all now totally fucked thanks to us. Yet, there's people who think bombing Syria is a good idea, and the way to a better world. That blows my mind.
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It blows your mind as a citizen who prefers world peace. It's exponentially increasing opportunity if you're part of the millitary industry complex and friends. Think about it from their perspective, ask yourself what long term interests you're creating by supporting these policies of war, and the whole makes perfect sense.
 
Fatbat said:
So you're not prepared to offer a viable solution, yet you're prepared to criticize the decision makers in the west for doing something to slow or halt the ISIS advance on civilian populations that they are hell bent on executing, because bombing is bad m'kay.

At least they're doing something instead of sitting around with their thumb up their ass while tens of thousands are slaughtered through ethnic cleansing. It might not be the best solution, but I honestly can't see a better option at this point.
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Just bc he doesn't have the exact solution to fix the problem, doesn't mean he can't recognize what obviously, and repetitively doesn't work.
 
zimok said:
It blows your mind as a citizen who prefers world peace. It's exponentially increasing opportunity if you're part of the millitary industry complex and friends. Think about it from their perspective, ask yourself what long term interests you're creating by supporting these policies of war, and the whole makes perfect sense.
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While I agree with what you said, I don't understand exactly what these long term interests are. I'm guessing the short answer is money and power...but in what form?

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Fatbat said:
So you're not prepared to offer a viable solution, yet you're prepared to criticize the decision makers in the west for doing something to slow or halt the ISIS advance on civilian populations that they are hell bent on executing, because bombing is bad m'kay.
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Ok, here's a solution. Pull out of the Middle East, and divert all the money being spent on wars to clean energy and climate change. From the looks of things, climate change is happening at a more accelerated pace than predicted, so we're getting off fossil fuels one way or another anyway. No need to continue nation building and ensuring various countries sell us oil at a cheap rate.

Leave the Middle East alone, and let them be ruled by tyrants. I'm sorry, but it's pretty obvious that's what's required over there to maintain stability. Just take a look -- what was previously Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, and the list goes on. They're all ruled by iron fisted tyrants. People can sit around and vilify people like Assad and Mubarak all they want, but it's not like the House of Saud is any better.

And don't worry, our way of life is by no means under attack. This whole muslim immigration in Europe scare everyone is worried about is already resolving itself. Election after election across Europe, nationalists are gaining popularity. If these idiots continue marching down European streets demanding Sharia law, you can expect nationalist parties to continue gaining popularity, and the idiots chanting for Sharia law can expect a rude awakening.
 
Winston_McFail said:
Just bc he doesn't have the exact solution to fix the problem, doesn't mean he can't recognize what obviously, and repetitively doesn't work.
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Yeah, because that thought hadn't crossed annnnybodys mind yet! Its easy to sit in a chair and yap about what works and what doesn't. Unless you have a better solution to the issue, there is no point bitching about it.
 
Fiver said:
While I agree with what you said, I don't understand exactly what these long term interests are. I'm guessing the short answer is money and power...but in what form?
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I don't know what you already know, so I don't have a reference point.

Based on your question "What form did they gain it in?"... It's much easier and more accurate to say there's no form in which they(mil/corp/govt) didn't gain influence and profits.

The only people who lost are civilians, which don't show as a negative on any balance sheet.
 
Fatbat said:
So these are all just movie props and special effects?

https://www.google.com/search?q=isi...AQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1920&bih=1115#imgdii=_
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Are these?

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpBtbVWfybo"]US Secretary of State: "500,000 Dead Iraqi Children was worth it." - YouTube[/ame]

Have you ever watched toddler step on a mine? Ever see a what a direct mortar hit on a person looks like from 50 yards away? Ever walk through a densely populated urban area after it was hit with "precision strikes" from countless 2k pound cluster-bombs?

Ever see dozens of bodies stacked up on a runway departing daily for a year straight? Sometimes guys you know?

Ever experienced hell on Earth because you believed the same propaganda bullshit you're spewing right now?

I have.

And it fucking kills me that people still eat this shit up hook, line and sinker. You have no idea how evil and twisted the shit you're advocating is. I've watched kids on both sides die, day after day, because they believed the lies they were fed.

But they're telling the truth this time!

Bullshit.

I can't believe people still fall for this shit. It's only been about a decade since the last mass genocide started based on (now confirmed) lies.

Think about it...

Who fucking benefits from posting beheadings of westerners on Youtube? The people that they'll use to justify bombing the shit out of?

Or the people who need to rally a war-weary public into supporting yet another aggressive war that they conveniently announce on the anniversary of 9/11?

Would you hold that position if "ISIS" had never posted brutal videos?

You think this shit is just random and not orchestrated years in advance?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8"]Wes Clark - America's Foreign Policy "Coup" - YouTube[/ame]

If you don't believe me, listen to a guy who was the highest decorated Marine in U.S. history at the time of his death...

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

And if you're still not convinced, I've got some contacts at Butterflylabs, PM me for a coupon.

No offense, but you try watching people die daily while dodging bullets and bombs for a year because you bought their lies and see how you feel when people defend the bullshit they spew.

If you have problems with slaughtering innocent people you may want to double-check the position you're supporting.
 
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