I don't think shoemoney and his posse are ever going to talk wickedfire into approving of the elite retreat. Thats just the cold hard fact. Its not that the elite retreat is a shitty product its that its a hobby shop type product. Like what they teach in business programs. Its a product that isn't necessary. It isn't for self satisfaction and its not for success. No one actually needs the elite retreat. Some enjoy it however and are willing to pay big money for it. Like when you go into a hobby shop for some supplies, "If you are really serious about ___ you'll have no problem buying this outrageously priced item." Its the oldest scam line in the book but it works well in marketing. You can sell a $400 machine that cuts paper to a scrapbooker as long as you convince them they are a worthless scrapbooker until they are willing to "invest" $400 it. Every ebook and paid forum on in the seo market claims the same "you need me" lines. If i was serious about Internet marketing I would of invested a good 3million by now. Thank god I only do this as a hobby.
Shoe, andrea, cronies.
Don't stress about ppl hating the elite retreat. To them(me as well) your just doopin newbies. To the people using the service your invaluable because they are the types that WANT the product. Worry about them, not us, and for god sakes quit with the guilt trip talk. We shouldn't have to feel guilty saying we don't approve of a product just because you or andrea are part of the product. Enough of this "If i get insulted i'll quit wickedfire" crap. As well as the constant defending of it. Also, loosing the whole "I'm just trying to help people" line would be a helpful removal of attitude. You are providing a product for your own profit not being a giant philanthropist. It just discredits you the more it gets preached. You only got so many seats. You will sell them all because of your popularity not because of what other people think.