You're right, Fox news is more reliable than a satire news show. And that's about it.
This gave me more faith in Obama's presidency
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You're right, Fox news is more reliable than a satire news show. And that's about it.
Guy suing Obama for the birth certificate is a Democrat. Obamas own party.
Heres his site - Obama Crimes
As for the news. Cnn, Nbc, Cbs all bias What would you recommend tweak50.
Heres his site - Obama Crimes
As for the news. Cnn, Nbc, Cbs all bias What would you recommend tweak50.
What is your definition of unregulated?
Mine is no taxes. No regulations. No fines, no fees, no tariffs, no levies. It is uncensored, it only answers to contract law. It trades in a currency of voluntary contractual agreement, and is stored in an institution that does not counterfeit. There are no barriers to competition, and the consumer is the sovereign.
That is the complete opposite of the current system.
2 things.
1. The system is heavily regulated, that is why it fails, and government protects big business. This is corporatism or state socialism. Also known as Fascism. Read up on Mussolini. That is exactly what there is today.
2. Marx was a fucking idiot. He imagined that men would eventually want to work 3 or 4 times as much as they consumed, to support people who were not working. That man doesn't want to watch football and scratch his balls while drinking beer on Sundays, but rather toiling endlessly to make up for the productive inefficiencies of a command economy because well, shucks he's just a good guy like that.
So at least get the shit straight. Marx's Capitalism draws fantasy conclusions. Try reading Mises' "Socialism". You'll like humans again, and believe in liberty as a bonus.
Hmm...I know you want to disagree with me, but you haven't. I'm not defending Marxism - It's a flawed system that has failed before. Das Kapital is not my Bible. I simply said he called it dead nuts as to what happens in a capitalist system. This wasn't a book review where I drone on about his ideas for a communist society, blah, blah, blah. Marx was wrong about communism, history has proven that. He was also right about capitalism, as we are seeing now, and will see in the future.
If you want to disagree with me about something, I'll make it easy for you:
Your mother was a whore. Agree or disagree?
Of course I know a certificate of live birth is not a birth certificate. Are you seriously braindead enough to think I said otherwise?
And that fact does not change the fact that it fulfills all needed criteria.
Seriously popeye, you're losing what little edge you once had. Just getting pathetic and desperate now.
More and more you don't cite anything, put words in my mouth, and skip over 99% of any criticism that is actually cited. Get on your game.
And yes, I think your personality allows you to spew uncited, unchecked filth forth at an incredible rate. That is an issue with how your mind functions, and how it affects the world that I have to live in. So I'm going to say what I please about how that mind functions. You might be a fantastic person in real life popeye, but your logic is fucked.
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The fact remains that he could have traveled recently with a diplomatic passport. He has not provided an original birth certificate to the media.
My question is why would he post a certificate of live birth in the first place. Why not just post an original birth certificate. Even with a original birth certificate it is possible that he is still not a citizen due to the fact that his mothers second husband may have adopted him while he was in indonesia.
I am sorry, but I don't really trust him. With all of his associations with middle eastern terrorist, domestic terrorist and communist, it has made me very skeptical. I would like to see an original document, to put this whole thing to rest.
What really irks me about tax-cutters and conservatives in general is the mindless adherence to the low/no tax mantra. I don't know about these people, but I drive on roads that were paid for with taxes, and when there's potholes a road crew supported by taxes comes and fix it. My street is lit up by lights paid for by taxes; the garbage was taken away by the sanitation men who exist on tax money. Ditto the police department, the school system. Conservatives talk a lot about a strong national defense, and the last I heard the army/navy/marines/air force is paid for by taxes. You want two wars, so where do we send the bill?
What about social security, the biggest portion of the "welfare" economy? Let's get rid of it, and have granny move into the spare room. No good? How about sending her maintenance checks every month?
Mindlessly cutting taxes is nihilism IMHO.
What about social security, the biggest portion of the "welfare" economy? Let's get rid of it, and have granny move into the spare room. No good? How about sending her maintenance checks every month?
Mindlessly cutting taxes is nihilism IMHO.
I don't care if he was born on Pluto if he knows how to get us out of the mess we're in. Does anybody else really give a shit?popeye said:
The certificate of live birth is available by essentially the equivalent of a public record pull; that's why it's what you see. It's pretty publicaly accessible.
Think of what has happened so far when Obama has cooperated, or someone(like in this case) cooperated on his behalf. The information is not accepted, not even looked at seriously, and a big drama bomb comes down on the campaign. That to me is most likely the reason he doesn't post.
If you know what you can do is going to be completely ignored or not accepted, why would you even bother? The country is simply to partisan to pay any attention to.
The domestic terrorist allegations are just retarded. According to that logic anyone at the university Ayers teaches at is "most likely" a domestic terrorist. Being not trusting is fine. It's in my nature as well. But Popeye, you have to draw a line at some point between legitimate, possibly correct paranoia, and paranoia being fueled by your dislike for a candidate.
Is it possible you just dislike Obama's policies enough that you're grasping for something to demonize him with, even if it's not there?
I mean, you seem shockingly unworried about Palin's association with secessionists. In my opinion, this would appear to be because you like her policy. So you don't strech as far for a reason to demonize her.
The constitution states that the President must be a US citizen born on American soil. You start breaking and changing even the smallest parts of our constitution and you might as well throw the whole document in the trash.
No matter how bad things get in the US; I will personally never accept the degradation of the integrity of the constitution nor will I give up my rights to any man.
You do understand that what you just stated is how fascist take power?
You seem to accept plenty of degraded "information" which is no more than innuendo and rumors. If Obama wasn't born in Hawaii I'm sure the state's attorney general would have announced the error by now, and corrected the state's records which list him as born there.
Your inference that this is all a plot questions the veracity of the entire system, and shows that some people are eager to lap up this twaddle because they don't really have a reasonable case against him.
bump for great justice, and a new page that would otherwise cause this to get ignored.
I'm getting pretty sick of (popeye's) chicken little running around yelling that the sky is falling. NO ONE can fuck up this country any worse that George Bush and his administration just did. It cannot get any worse. Scare people all you want, that's what you fucking republitards are best at, but it only gets better from here, no matter who is elected. We are at rock bottom as a country because of this current administration, so all of you who don't like what's comin next, you are the ones that brought it on, so take your goddamn medicine and STFU
I didn't start this fuckin argument concerning his birth certificate but I do think there is some strange events surrounding it. I even stated that he probably does have a valid birth certificate. I just want to see the original. Do I not have the right to see it? He is asking for us to vote him in office. He is asking for us to give him a job. Show me the fuckin original birth certificate.
His ties to terrorist and communist wouldnt be that big of a deal if he for one didn't lie about them and two, if there wasn't so fuckin many of them.
Have you ever be associated with people that are terrorist or have ties with terrorist?. I would think not. Don't you think it's strange that this guy has SO MANY associations with socialist, communist, biggots and people that support terrorism.
It's not just the ties to Ayers but it's the fact that it's numerous ties, over many, many years. Now it has come out that ABC news has a tape of Obama toasting a PLO member at a going away party in 2000. This man was Rashid Khalidi, a former PLO operative who justified Palestinian terrorism as contributing to “political enlightenment". Obama was good friends with this man and even had the PLO operative's wife baby sit his children.
One association is surely dismissable but when you start adding them all up, it says something about the man.
Would you agree that we mostly hang around people that share the same ideas that we do. I am sure that you don't hang around with far right conservatives? If you are straight, are most of your friends homosexuals?
People associate themselves with others of like minds.
Democrats have been in power for the last two years. WTF have they done. Peloci, Reid and Barney "THE FUDD" Frank have fucked this country up as much or more than Republicans.
I am not so partison to admit that the Republicans have sucked for the last 4 years. Are you able to admit the faults of the Democrats? You do know that the Democratic congress has the lowest approval rating in history?
Go away partison sheep!
You do realize now anyone with a botnet is considered a "national security" threat, right? And whether or not they told you, I can almost guarantee you've chatted around on the intertubes with someone that has one. So the answer for both of us is "yes", if you want to follow the alphabet club's definition.
Or it says he's been a lot of places with a lot of high powered people.
High powered people tend to have baggage. A lot of time blatant illegalities in their life.
Seriously popeye, some of these "connections" that are made are insanely temporary associations. It would be like someone saying I was part of a criminal organization plotting the downfall of myspace(and by association Rupert Murdoch and by association the republican party) if they "discovered" I'd ran traffic through Scott Richter's CPAEmpire for a month or two around the time of the myspace spam suit.
Or damn, I'm a moderator on the same board as "mostly reformed"(taken from his banner) blackhat nickycakes, I must be plotting the downfall of the US internet infastructure, right? Wickedfire must be a cyber terrorist organization?
Not true for me. I grew up in a very conservative area, and most of my friends are republicans. I like them for their personalities, not their belief system or opinions on taxes.
No, close minded people associate with others of like minds. Real people in the real world can't restrict themselves like that.
YOU are calling me a partisan sheep? A quick glance at your recent posts tells us who the partisan sheep here is. I fully accept that both parties need to get their shit together.
Yes the Democrats have had the majority for the past 2 years, but every time they try to fix things and get something done, Bushtard pulls out the veto, which is something he NEVER did when he had control of congress. Your argument about Democrats being in power the last two years being the reason for all the shit that has happened is bullshit. Tie a guys hands and toss him in the pool, and then blame him when he drowns.
Yes the Democrats have had the majority for the past 2 years, but every time they try to fix things and get something done, Bushtard pulls out the veto, which is something he NEVER did when he had control of congress. Your argument about Democrats being in power the last two years being the reason for all the shit that has happened is bullshit. Tie a guys hands and toss him in the pool, and then blame him when he drowns.
Good for you! Though you may be "socially progressive" most people are not.
There are plenty of "high powered" people to associate with besides terrorist, biggots and communist. Name another politician outside of the socialist party that has SO MANY associations. Unfortunately for your argument; You can't.
I can't believe that an intelligent person can't (or maybe wont admit) that these ties are strange at best.
YOU are calling me a partisan sheep? A quick glance at your recent posts tells us who the partisan sheep here is. I fully accept that both parties need to get their shit together.
Yes the Democrats have had the majority for the past 2 years, but every time they try to fix things and get something done, Bushtard pulls out the veto, which is something he NEVER did when he had control of congress. Your argument about Democrats being in power the last two years being the reason for all the shit that has happened is bullshit. Tie a guys hands and toss him in the pool, and then blame him when he drowns.
Please enlighten me on these bills the Democrats have tried to pass that would have been so great for America. Peloci's first order of business was to try to get a bigger jet.
Thank you popeye. Here's to hoping our conversation stay as civil as the past few messages.
And yes, I can.
Ignoring the fact that we trained Bin Laden.
Bush was a tremendous supporter of Putin, who is positively an evil man. Beyond that, aid to Egypt is second only to Israel right now. The current president there has been taking dictatorial control of the region since around 1981, in a similar "emergency state" used with Germany that allowed Hitler to rise to power. Political dissent is getting rare now; mostly because those who do it are generallybeaten by guards, sodomized, then thrown out of a car on the fringes of Cairo. The leader now has the ability to disband their parliament and remove ALL judicial oversight of elections(which have recently been filled with voter fraud). Oh yes, and they don't pay attention to any of the US's wishes in terms of releasing prisoners that were political dissidents, or anything else.
This would essentially implicate every single president since Ford.
Let's get some pictures for posterity. (With the Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak)
Pelosi is a partisan bitch who has been in the party so long she forgot how the real world functions. She's unable to separate what is good for the country from what is good for the party, and should not be taken seriously. This is not true of all(or even most) dems. I mentally equate her to such partisan hacks as Rush Limbaugh and Hannity.
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