Time to give back, bitches

If you want to help people, give them a job, not a handout. Don't divide the pie differently, grow the pie.

There is nothing wrong with profiting from doing good. In fact, in a rational economy, helping others would make us all better off materially, not just psychologically.

In a welfare economy, everyone gets poorer trying to do good except the politicos and bureaucrats.
 


I already gave my extra monies to Jimmy Wales.

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Is it wrong of me to think of myself as a liberal but want to hunt down and kill the welfare families instead of turkeys for thanksgiving? :angryfire:

I agree with Guerilla and that's why I like Kiva. - You can feel good about lending to good causes, and you choose exactly which cause, no bureaucracy in the middle.

For anyone who just sends a check somewhere without knowing exactly how it gets used; You are part of the PROBLEM, not the solution. Your mismanaged money usually allows greed to flourish and make the victims even bigger victims so the greedy can squeeze the next person like you for even more money.
 
Other than friends and family, I would never give a penny to anyone in a 1st world/western country. You live in a land full of opportunity and you dare ask for money?

Thirld world countries... oppression, war, natural hardship... that sucks. They are the only ones deserving of my money. It's hard trying to escape those situations by walking from them without dieing from hunger or murder or being enslaved again.
 
Direct Marketer said:
Thirld world countries... oppression, war, natural hardship... that sucks. They are the only ones deserving of my money. It's hard trying to escape those situations by walking from them without dieing from hunger or murder or being enslaved again.
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And how, pray tell, do you intend to get it to the people that actually need it? (Not the people posing as them, or the people that will steal it from them after you have finished sending it?)
 
The problem is we have anti-capitalist social culture in the west.

The entrepreneur creates more health, cleanliness, education and material wealth than any church, bureaucrat or politician. He creates real jobs, he manufactures real goods, he provides real services. When he fails to satisfy his clients, he goes broke, and so his actions are never far from the real desires of a society, whether it is the provision of childcare, sneakers, rice milk or iron maiden t-shirts.

The entrepreneur, not the politician, church or bureaucrat has delivered us the ipod, rosetta stone software, california rolls and breakfast 24 hours a day. The entrepreneur has taught countless young men and women how to prosper socially by serving their fellow man, found productive tasks for the handicapped, subsidized information/education/recreation media, recycled waste, brought people closer together (travel/communication), raised standards of living and facilitated peaceful relationships between different cultures. The entrepreneur makes capital investments that bring us faster computers, more fuel efficient cars and longer shelf lives.

The best part is, the entrepreneur does all of that without violence. He doesn't have to threaten anyone with jail time or property confiscation. He can create all of these social benefits without creating any victims, acting exclusively through peaceful voluntary action (trade).

Our problem is that we don't honor entrepreneurs the way we revere demagogues and politicians.

We probably should.
 
guerilla said:
Our problem is that we don't honor entrepreneurs the way we revere demagogues and politicians.

We probably should.
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Well spoken! I agree yet again. Many other benefits would surely come from that theoretical culture you speak about too, I have no doubt.

However It's funny you pick on the west in that rant, because, as you know, we are the land of opportunity. It sounds like what you are arguing for has never existed anywhere... And the USA is closest thing to it in human history.

I too would love to see the day when an entrepreneur is something kids in school aspire to be, not just rock stars. You never see kids yearning to be the next Bill Gates, but politicans, actors, and sports stars are things they would all practically kill each other over...

Meanwhile you and I know that being an entrepreneur is better. It Freedom, power, and wealth all at once. -No huge responsibilities required.

The problem, once again, is school... But how do we get the teachers to teach something that they know nothing at all about?
 
I'm in the process of creating a site for Kenyan orphan children that are left without parents, for one reason or another. These children are taken care by the Christian ministry and a young pastor that tries to spread the word any way he can around the net and still struggling to fill up the budget needed (and the need is not a big figure).

He needs maybe $40 per child per month to take care of their needs, food, education needs, etc.

My idea is to create a site where people would be able to sponsor specific child on a monthly basis (for a year or more). I would also ask the pastor to post stories and pictures of the way money is being used. That should motivate people, when they find out about the true stories of the people and children involved and also reassure people that the money is well spent. It's pretty rough situation and this children have nothing, but they still manage to stay motivated and happy. It's a blessing.

Any further ideas for the site implementation and marketing?

I thought of an idea to tie the donations to companies (I think the total would be $3k/mo), and get companies to commit for a year. Freaking 3k/month ONLY would make a huge change there for so many people, and they are still struggling to this day. It's sad!
 
Came across this online, thought some of you might be interested:

On Dec. 4 and Dec. 5, any Borders customer making an in-store purchase, whether of a book or a bagel or a latte, will receive a $15 gift card to donate to a public school of choice through DonorsChoose.org, an Internet-based charity.
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babylonian said:
I'm in the process of creating a site for Kenyan orphan children that are left without parents, for one reason or another. These children are taken care by the Christian ministry and a young pastor that tries to spread the word any way he can around the net and still struggling to fill up the budget needed (and the need is not a big figure).

He needs maybe $40 per child per month to take care of their needs, food, education needs, etc.

My idea is to create a site where people would be able to sponsor specific child on a monthly basis (for a year or more). I would also ask the pastor to post stories and pictures of the way money is being used. That should motivate people, when they find out about the true stories of the people and children involved and also reassure people that the money is well spent. It's pretty rough situation and this children have nothing, but they still manage to stay motivated and happy. It's a blessing.

Any further ideas for the site implementation and marketing?

I thought of an idea to tie the donations to companies (I think the total would be $3k/mo), and get companies to commit for a year. Freaking 3k/month ONLY would make a huge change there for so many people, and they are still struggling to this day. It's sad!
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Good stuff!

I'm pretty good at graphic/web design and also pretty damn handy at SEO, link bait, networking etc. PM me if you want any help at all on that project.
 
babylonian said:
I'm in the process of creating a site for Kenyan orphan children that are left without parents, for one reason or another. These children are taken care by the Christian ministry and a young pastor that tries to spread the word any way he can around the net and still struggling to fill up the budget needed (and the need is not a big figure).

He needs maybe $40 per child per month to take care of their needs, food, education needs, etc.

My idea is to create a site where people would be able to sponsor specific child on a monthly basis (for a year or more). I would also ask the pastor to post stories and pictures of the way money is being used. That should motivate people, when they find out about the true stories of the people and children involved and also reassure people that the money is well spent. It's pretty rough situation and this children have nothing, but they still manage to stay motivated and happy. It's a blessing.

Any further ideas for the site implementation and marketing?

I thought of an idea to tie the donations to companies (I think the total would be $3k/mo), and get companies to commit for a year. Freaking 3k/month ONLY would make a huge change there for so many people, and they are still struggling to this day. It's sad!
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Sounds like a really good idea. Keep us updated.
 
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