What Should We Do?

What should we do with our Newbies?

  • Get rid of them!

    Votes: 18 22.8%

  • Let them stay!

    Votes: 29 36.7%

  • Keep them for a trial period and decide after 30 days.

    Votes: 32 40.5%
  • Total voters
    79
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Throw them with the sharks and if they make it they make it. The novel thing about WF is our hazing of noob's. Thats half the fun of this place Jonny boy.

Take a look at shawur above me. He makes his first post in this thread and it's 100% gay. But that's "A" OK because it make us laugh and we know Tupac Shawur is CorrectAD's lost brother who walks the earth with pubic hair as a mustache and eats dingle berry pies.
 


Hey, I'm up for any idea that requires the least amount of work and responsibility as possible. If there is a quick and easy way to keep them and weed out the good from the bad, I'm all for it.

I just don't want to lose the quality on here and become a DP, SP or ABW. It seems like every other forum out there is merely concerned with numbers of registered users, and just taking in anyone who wants to join up. I would much rather focus on the content and quality and have people who know their shit rather than deal with some of these people who come here asking WHY it's so bad to buy a get rich quick ebook, or how to make money on the internets. You guys have no idea how irritating it gets to have to ban so many people all the time.

No joke.. we have over 3,000 banned ebook fuckers and newbies here, the other 2,000'ish are spammers, scammers and network reps who can't follow the rules.

So coming up with a quick and simple solution is what I'm after. If getting rid of as many newbies as possible helps with that goal, so be it, I'm all for it. If MK wants to sit there and teach the newbies how to be normal people, that's fine too. He can give the really annoying ones virtual dunce caps as punishment.

Either way, I've already changed registration here to manual mode to weed out the really obvious fuckfaces and spammers, and that is already getting tedious due to the amount of registrations we get here every day.
 
Any way to allow noobs to only post REPLIES to existing threads?

I think the worst noob problems come when they try to take over the board without realizing what a fucking search button is for. Don't know if vBulletin can put a restriction like that in place easily, but if you could do like a noob has to post 25 times in a thread to get "create-a-thread" rights... might work.
 
You will not lose quality if you keep the core guys here. The regulators. They keep this place real and fun and most could give a fuck about noob's but they will be the first to check em. The core guys never complian about noobs and give them all the beni of a doubt. The post lame, they let em know and if they handle the flame, then they last.

Maybe no thread starts as a noob. Make 25 posts and earn a right to start a thread.??

I think you have things dialed in as much as they will ever be. Just keep the hard core regs happy. Some shirts, wine, cheese and maybe a bag of good buds would be cool.
 
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DomainRealty said:
I'm gonna get my balls flamed off for this, so here goes:

I say that we screw the whole "certification" idea. We keep newbies confined to the pen. We then have a select (or not-so-select) group of members (the key thing is that it can NOT be limited to the staff) who take a day or so every month and vote on who is good and who deserves to get their ass sent outta here.

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I'm not quite sure I like the pen idea. When I first joined I knew very little about AM and had a lot of questions. Unlike most people I did search and it answered most of my questions, but I did start a few topics on areas I couldn't find information on.

I think that if you make a "newbie pen", then they will all just sit there and promote ebooks and talk about warrior forum, and nobody with help the legit newbs with legit questions because the rest of us have access to the actual forum where all the expertise is.

I think the voting idea is excellent. Instead of monthly I would do it weekly, and maybe allow regular members to create a poll for weather or not a member gets banned. You would have to figure out a way to keep it from getting abused though.
 
Keep the n00bs, they are great entertainment in my opinion. And some of the new guys may be new to the forum, but not new to affiliate marketing. I think it would be a mistake to marginalize them. I wouldn't say no to keeping people in the n00b section for a little while though.
 
I'm a dedicated lurker and I've learned so much just by using the 'search' feature.

Blastyourass said:
Maybe no thread starts as a noob. Make 25 posts and earn a right to start a thread.??
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Good idea. This force all noobs (like me) search throughout the forums first before posting something/questions, thus less repetitive and no-quality threads.

Not keen with the pen idea too. The newbie section have already done a good job.

Thx WF!
 
I think that if you make a "newbie pen", then they will all just sit there and promote ebooks and talk about warrior forum, and nobody with help the legit newbs with legit questions because the rest of us have access to the actual forum where all the expertise is.
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I never said that it would be a lawless pen :P

Jason
 
what about noob lurkers, like me - I haven't posted much because I've been trying to learn as much as possible. I will say I have some ideas on how to make things work better - scripting, etc . . but I'm more apt to try them out myself before sending them on some forum.

So what I found was that to get access to certain things here - you needed so many posts - I really wanted to get the arbi script - downloaded it once (I thought) then it was gone. Had to post so much to get access and picked my spots so that I wouldn't just have meaningless posts.

If anyone has read anything hear and learned, is that you will be banned in about two seconds if you go off the rails.

I think Jon is trying to come up with a way of managing a high registration board to keep the riff-raff out. The way you do that is 1) get a minimum post count in there somewhere to get something of value e.g. access to other parts of the forum, downloads, etc. . and 2) empower trusted users to moderate - basically subadmins - just like in game servers .. . folks that are on the board alot will be good judges of who should go and stay. Give them a set of rules and guidelines to judge and ban - have them stick to them - and keep the board rolling - bring new folks in and keep adding value to the board.

good luck!
 
Blastyourass said:
Maybe no thread starts as a noob. Make 25 posts and earn a right to start a thread.??
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It's a good idea in theory, but then you will have all the fuckers who just reply in a thread, ummm any idea why I can't start a thread? and be completely off topic. I would rather delete a shit thread then go through all the threads and find shit posts

Just have an application forum, they gotta show what sort of experience they have had in the industry in a post or whatever (if they lie at least they might be a bit of fun in here) and then have it like jury duty. We pick a group of say 10 people who have to go through that forum every month and accept deny etc. and those 10 people are always rotating.
 
By the way..

Just to post some stats that you may not know.

WickedFire is in it's 13th month and we're getting over 1,000,000 uniques a month now, with just about 8,000,000 pageviews. We only spent $350 so far on advertising (that CPM buy on DP). To this day, we are still 100% viral and word of mouth. We're also a "trusted" site within Google (I_Like_Cock proved it by making us rank on Google for "buy viagra fedex" -- real cute John), and our Alexa rank is 1966. Woot!
 
Jon said:
No joke.. we have over 3,000 banned ebook fuckers and newbies here, the other 2,000'ish are spammers, scammers and network reps who can't follow the rules.
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Why is this place such an asshole-magnet? Chicks ask themselves that question all the time.
 
I'd say follow the something awful model.

$10 to signup, one time applicable fee. Show them ALL the rules on the signup page and put in big red letters, READ THIS SO YOU DONT LOSE YOUR MONEY.
That way you can potentially make money off of banning people:rasta:


I've been a member at SA for a while and they have a lot of great rules, like no introducing yourself threads of any kind, ever.
 
electricshoe said:
I'd say follow the something awful model.

$10 to signup, one time applicable fee. Show them ALL the rules on the signup page and put in big red letters, READ THIS SO YOU DONT LOSE YOUR MONEY.
That way you can potentially make money off of banning people:rasta:


I've been a member at SA for a while and they have a lot of great rules, like no introducing yourself threads of any kind, ever.
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Yeah I know, but SA is in a world of it's own. They have almost a million members, maybe more. General themed forums will always get more users and more willingly paid members too. Charging people to be new is kind of silly. Although, as I mentioned to some people at ASE, we will be rolling out some paid sections here, but I'm not going to fuck with any of the popular sections and make them paid just for the sake of it, plus it kills off our SE rankings (not that I care so much about them anymore anyway).
 
Why not implement something rep-related.
a newbie can only post in the newbie thread till a mod or high authority member reps them, then they can post outside of the pen.

I dunno what's high rep these days, but maybe 1m rep or so?
 
Ahh I wouldn't make it pay to read, just pay to post. Although I see the point.

I like the idea of profitting off banning people though.

If you watch lowtax's speech he gave at a university a long time ago (its pretty hilarious), they started the pay program just to keep some stupid troll kid out of the forum that they kept banning and somehow it turned into their business model.

Other than that, the replies only for a certain amount of time would be good.

Now to pack my suitcase for my flight in 6 hours
 
andrew wee said:
Why not implement something rep-related.
a newbie can only post in the newbie thread till a mod or high authority member reps them, then they can post outside of the pen.

I dunno what's high rep these days, but maybe 1m rep or so?
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I don't think 1M is very much, I've got about 2 billion. :eek: Whatever a full bar is should be the rule. Or maybe full bar x2, because one person can make a bar full.
 
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