yet another school shooting
- Thread starter dmnEPC
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That's the problem, everybody is too scared to put things in perspective for fear of seeming cruel. But the fact is, more kids died from the flu this week than died in Sandy Hook. It sucks, but shit happens. However, that doesn't mean we should limit the rights of 300 million people just because a handful of nutcases do crazy shit every so often.
I was talking about the over 40k dead annually because of it.
I never said we should. Yet the school shooting epidemic is significant enough to take a look.
In my opinion it all starts at home. We should firstly make sure one our kids doesn't go on a murder spree. Next guard the schools (get the cops out of Starbucks and serve them good coffee at local schools), back ground checks on all (these checks should include the pharmaceutical system) before you can buy a gun.
100% agreed. How about we start by analyzing the rotten system taken from the Prussian model that forcefully takes kids away from parents to indoctrinate them into being obedient workers. How about we start to think about developing young people to their full potential, and creating better, saner systems (or god forbid, de-systemize) of education.
I'm sure you will solve a lot more problems if you look at the underlying issue. But that would involve thinking and challenging established concepts. That is too hard. Much easier to sing the chorus that is fed by media.
Seriously. I wish someone at the mall would try to strangle me. Lol.
I was 2 blocks away from the Clackamas Mall in Oregon when the shooting happened last month. Not a good feeling.
There's just an inherent difference between smoking deaths and gun deaths.
Smoking deaths are basically always self-inflicted (yes, there are second hand smoke deaths, but they're greatly overshadowed by just smoking yourself to death) and are really a lifestyle choice. Gun deaths usually include two (or more) parties (though gun suicide deaths are also a problem).
The government HAS done a lot to try and curb smoking habits in America, with laws regarding tobacco advertisements, taxes on the sale of tobacco, warning labels, smoking in public and in private stores/restaurants, etc.
The problem is that most people just don't give a fuck; I doubt there are very many people left in America that actually think smoking is good for them (or at the very least, not bad for them).
This isn't related to the thread, and I don't disagree with your argument, but related to the bold: Tobacco commercials were pulled from television because of a push from tobacco companies that helped them to end a prisoner's dilemma that was costing them millions each year. Thought some people might find that interesting. Carry on.
Yes, something like rational thinking. "Something needs to be done" is such an emotional response. If you want to stop unnecessary deaths, you go after the highest value targets, like second hand smoke 50k deaths a year vs 10k for gun violence.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHueQYOchVc"]Mindy M., whose brother was murdered with a gun - I Demand A Plan - YouTube[/ame]
I just started seeing this bullshit popping up on YouTube. The top comments are getting loaded up with people who are against this shit, and they're getting disliked like a son of a bitch.
I just started seeing this bullshit popping up on YouTube. The top comments are getting loaded up with people who are against this shit, and they're getting disliked like a son of a bitch.
So what you're saying is that I should bring the sheep in the barn first before I fuck them?