The Chains Of Tyranny Have Permanently Locked Into Place

I have never thoroughly researched his history and associates beyond his professional career..

So why are we even having this discussion? You don't even know what you're talking about.

But what does his history or associates have to do with his actions?

Surely you jest.

I still want to know what specifically he will do that is going to leave America as a smoking crater.

Seriously. I really want to know.

The destruction of all American nuclear weapons. The destruction of the American military.

But you don't really care, do you? dchuk is at least semi-sincere, although he admits he doesn't really know anything about Obama. You're set in your ways and beliefs, so why waste yours or my time? Just carry on, good sir.

Besides, I'm willing to bet people like you will be happy when the U.S. is neutered militarily.

If 83 year old Chomsky can sue Obama, then why can't the multimillionaire Glenn Beck? Why aren't the Republicans presenting this "evidence" in a court of law or in a congressional hearing? Instead the unofficial position of the Republican party is that Obama is a nice family man with good intentions who follows the rules.

Beck hasn't said a word about the massive election crimes committed by Obama's handlers. And here I thought I was a "Beck fanatic" who couldn't think without him spoonfeeding me information. Huh...
 


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21gaUp1DvVs]Se7en - Do you know you're insane? - YouTube[/ame]
 
Surely you jest.
Not at all. I try to judge people by their actions, not their words, or their skin color, or their groups.

Your way is actually a collectivist analysis. I am interested in what individuals do.

The destruction of all American nuclear weapons.
Has America reduced it's nukes at all since Obama came into office?

The destruction of the American military.
This I don't understand. The pentagon has its biggest budget year over year. Where is all of that money going?

Last I checked, Obama was killing people in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Libya and god knows where else. This is the guy who (supposedly) got Bin Laden.

But you don't really care, do you?
No, I do care that you substantiate what you say. If you want people to take you seriously, you are going to have your opinions and ideas questioned. How well you respond to the questions indicates how seriously people should take you.

If you posted facts, I would take you very seriously. It's totally in your interest to do so.

You're set in your ways and beliefs, so why waste yours or my time? Just carry on, good sir.
That's not true at all. If you have real information, facts and evidence you should present them. Who is going to argue about a verified truth?

My point in asking is that you make a lot of claims, but I wanted to understand your reasoning behind them. You're struggling to articulate that reasoning, which if I were you, would bother me. I'd have to check my premises if I couldn't prove what I say.

Don't try to worm out of answering by attacking me personally. You claim Obama is destroying America. Explain how.

Besides, I'm willing to bet people like you will be happy when the U.S. is neutered militarily.
But again, this is an attack against me. This does nothing to prove what you are saying is true. You're welcome to talk shit about me, but that doesn't prove anything you say about Obama.

What specifically has Obama done to destroy America?
 
And HB, I don't hate you, but I don't think you have a shred of intellectual honesty. I think you've been very deeply propagandized and programmed.

Tbh, it makes me sad. There are literally 10s of millions of people suffering from the same situation.

I am asking you to stop shouting and explain why you are angry, and you're really having a hard time doing so.

An honest man would step back and ask himself, "why do I believe what I believe?"

That you won't makes my argument that you're saying things you can't prove, and frankly, that makes it hard for people to take you seriously.

This is your moment. Your 15 minutes. Prove everyone wrong. Make your case.
 
Check out what I found on facebook today:

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Not a facepalm big enough for this.
 
So why are we even having this discussion? You don't even know what you're talking about.



Surely you jest.



The destruction of all American nuclear weapons. The destruction of the American military.

But you don't really care, do you? dchuk is at least semi-sincere, although he admits he doesn't really know anything about Obama. You're set in your ways and beliefs, so why waste yours or my time? Just carry on, good sir.

Besides, I'm willing to bet people like you will be happy when the U.S. is neutered militarily.



Beck hasn't said a word about the massive election crimes committed by Obama's handlers. And here I thought I was a "Beck fanatic" who couldn't think without him spoonfeeding me information. Huh...

This is honestly just sad.
 
Stir a couple crumbs of illogic...

I judge people by their actions...

The decision to associate with a particular individual is an action.

...blend with a smattering of racism accusations...

not their skin color...

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...for a millisecond come close to actually challenging any of my assertions...

Has America reduced it's nukes at all since Obama came into office?

The pentagon has its biggest budget year over year...

...slice and dice a quick appeal to the "respect" of others...

people don't take you seriously...
Prove everyone wrong...

a notion which appears often in your writings incidentally...

You've got no power, no social clout, no reputation, esteem or respect...

and yet, a notion which you responded to in this way...

I care not one whit about appearing credible here...

I could care less what people who don't know me think about me...

...mix in a heaping helping of insults and broad generalizations..

you don't have a shred of intellectual honesty...
you're struggling to articulate that reasoning...
you're attacking me personally...
you've been very deeply propagandized and programmed...
you're like millions of people suffering from the same situation...
shouting
angry
dishonest man
you're saying things you can't prove...

finally, bake to perfection with a sprinkling of hypocrisy!

an attack against me does nothing to prove what you are saying is true...

If you want to actually have the balls to challenge an assertion I've made and make a counter-claim, I'd be happy to respond. But you're drunk if you think I'm going to crawl to the steps of your throne and proffer my analysis for your seal of approval. Make your own assertion that directly contradicts mine and I'll be happy to respond to it. Otherwise, stop wasting everyone's time.
 
The decision to associate with a particular individual is an action.
Every decision is an action, but is Obama's decision to sit or stand when pissing, or to have ketchup or mustard on his hotdog relevant to being President?

We're talking specifically about his actions AS PRESIDENT. And you've answered nothing.

...for a millisecond come close to actually challenging any of my assertions...
I don't have to. It's called the burden of proof. If you assert something, it is up to you to prove it, not for me to disprove it.

Learn to debate amigo.

a quick appeal to the "respect" of others...
Not at all, and you just dodged answering again. Not that I am surprised, as I said, you don't have a shred of intellectual honesty.

a notion which appears often in your writings incidentally...

and yet, a notion which you responded to in this way...

...mix in a heaping helping of insults and broad generalizations..

finally, bake to perfection with a sprinkling of hypocrisy...
More dodging. I am begging you to prove me wrong, and you can't/won't do it.

Again, this is why you have zero credibility in any of these discussions. That's on you, not me. You're the one who decides not to say things he can prove or provide proof for things he says. Trying to make me look like a bad guy can't make you right. Only you're ability to articulate the truth can make you right.

If you want to actually have the balls to challenge an assertion I've made and make a counter-claim, I'd be happy to respond.
That's not how argument works. If you claim something as true, you must prove it. You can't claim things as true, and then they somehow become true because no one disagrees.

Seriously, there are 5 year olds who can argue at a higher level than this.

Otherwise, stop wasting everyone's time.
I'm not the one asserting things he can't prove. I am not the one making hyperbolic and melodramatic threads about Glen Beck talking points.

Prove this

The destruction of all American nuclear weapons. The destruction of the American military.

If you can't, then we know you're a liar or delusional. If you won't then you're dishonest and disreputable.

Your move.
 
The bottom line in all of these discussions, is that this minority of right wing fanatics really don't have a good argument against Obama, because they can never articulate one.

Then they get melodramatic and flip out (like the crazy lady on YouTube) when people don't agree with and act upon this position they can't even define.

It's clearly some form of insanity or mental illness.

Above, I've asked HB (the second right winger I have asked here) to define exactly what it is that Obama has done which is communistic.

And he has NOTHING.

I've asked him exactly what Obama has done so poorly, and he claims

The destruction of all American nuclear weapons. The destruction of the American military.

Which last time I checked, the US still had nukes, and the US still had the world's biggest military.

It makes you wonder how these people can work themselves up into such a state of anger and anxiety when they can't even explain in clear language why they are mad in the first place.

And then they have the brass balls to claim that everyone else is stupid and a coward.

Some days I don't like humans. Other days I think they are great (for comedic reasons). This stuff is fantastic, like I said, right wingers are wonderful entertainment, straight out of crazy town.
 
@dchuk

Hanlon's razor

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

“Many journalists have fallen for the conspiracy theory of government. I do assure you that they would produce more accurate work if they adhered to the cock-up theory.”

-Sir Bernard Ingham (Margaret Thatcher's Press Secretary)
 
LOL @ destruction of the US Military.

The world's aircraft carriers:

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The world's destroyers/cruisers:
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One does not simply dismantle...
 
LOL @ destruction of the US Military.
But but but ... Obama is a communist!!!!!!!

After the thread where Hellblazer couldn't define what communism is, and now this thread where he claims Obama has destroyed America, I wonder if he will ever show his face around here again...
 
Above, I've asked HB (the second right winger I have asked here) to define exactly what it is that Obama has done which is communistic.

And he has NOTHING.

just came back to this and saw you running your mouth. I'll try to keep it simple for you.

I don't use the label communist as the textbook definition because the textbook definition is a lie. Contrary to your lie here:

After the thread where Hellblazer couldn't define what communism is..

I actually did define it, although I used the textbook definition because I knew your simple mind wouldn't be able to process anything deeper. I keep trying to tell your simple brain that there's two sides to communists: what they represent themselves to be and what they really are.

Regarding the military, it is not so much what Obama has done to them(although he has already started sequestration) as what he is going to do to them.

That's why this thread is entitled "the chains have locked" because now there is no turning back. That's why 2012 was crucial, contrary to your idiotic assertions otherwise. This is a dynamic, in-progress destruction we are witnessing.

The problem is that you're kind of a moron in that you can't see the global communist movement originating out of Russia, with the end design of decapitating the U.S. militarily.

I'm telling you what will happen. Just like I told you Obama wouldn't leave office. Except now it will get interesting.

They will gut the military. They will destroy most of the deployed strategic nuclear weapons, if not all of them.

Now how is it that you can type a lot of big, brave words like "crazy rightwinger", "mental illness", "fanatic", get some likes from your sycophantic dingleberry luke, and yet you still can't see what's coming?

How is it that you can type 2,000-word dissertations on what is and isn't proper debate tactics and yet you can't see that America is in mortal danger because it has been infiltrated from the inside?

I've told you before. I honestly don't give two shits if I convince you or not. You're the one that follows me around on all these threads and can't keep my name out of your mouth.

I'm not "claiming" shit, I'm telling you what will happen. You're just too much of a doctrinaire idiot to see it. I'm not trying to "debate" you because you're a joke. You're no different than the 1,000 other brainwashed, delusional retards who respond to any shred of discernment with "hurr durr rightwinger fanatic nutjob". You guys are like cookie cutter drones. I could give two shits about proving anything to you. I'm not sure why you haven't gotten that yet.

You expect everything to be dumbed down for retards like yourself, and that if Obama is part of a communist conspiracy, why, he should be doing blatantly communist things like nationalizing industries and collectivizing businesses!

You clearly know nothing about how communists operate.

To everyone else, I would highly recommend watching this video. I just saw this yesterday, and it encapsulates PERFECTLY the very real and present danger that Obama and his controllers represent to the U.S. and the Western world.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt44D6ZlFKI&list=UUXfr59o4brbqVRWWmQolg6w&index=2&feature=plcp"]An Urgent Message for America - YouTube[/ame]
 
Props to Guerilla for trying to decipher Hellblazer's neurotic ramblings, but he never has shown proof to back his assertions whatsoever and most likely never will.

That's because the basis of his argument is empty. There is no elite in the U.S. running it to the ground on purpose, the elite only manipulate to stay in power and stay wealthy, while ensuring all of us can get led and fed til we're dead as unarmed_gunman put it so succintly.

If the U.S. does eventually cave it will simply be a byproduct of greed and excess and not just from the top but from bottom to top, wealthy taking all they can to be wealthy, government trying to stay in power whilst appeasing the population just enough to not revolt, and of course the ones allowing all this to happen the proles contentedly buying their mcd's happy with all the govt has given them as the system collapses in on itself. As others have stated this has close to zero to do with Obama alone. Funny how Hellblazer forgets about the other 2 branches of government including the one that is majority Republican (lol).

tldr; Don't pay any mind to Hellblazer. Plenty of other's have better shit to say and can actually express WHY they feel that way.
 
Anyone with a brain knows why they don't like obombya. They may hide being that claim of him being a commie or a socialist (even though merika has been a socialist state for many moons).

This is a merica and theres people who clearly dislike him for who he is....


















He's a cot dam moslem.
 
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3hY1eagq88"]Reagan Warned Us About Obama - YouTube[/ame]


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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJgWMI0hch8"]Michelle Obama's "All this for a damn flag" shown at three different speeds - YouTube[/ame]
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OR..........is this version THE TRUTH?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSr2oZJ12M8"]Michelle Obama's "All this for a damn flag" shown at three different speeds HQ - YouTube[/ame]