Survival - Prepping: Other considerations

Yuma504

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There is much talk on here regarding “survival” when the SHTF or TEOTWAWKI. Most of it revolves around how much fire power one has locked and loaded or what a great sniper/marksman one is or just who has the biggest epeen ready for the post apocalyptic world we are all going to find ourselves in at some point. And while I agree that you need weaponry, skills and know how in addition to some balls, there is so much more necessary to be prepared for this scenario than being “Billy Badass”.

I am very optimistic that when shit does turn for the worst the majority of us won’t be hell bent on shooting first and asking questions later when encountering other human beings. That being said, at some point in your bug out scenario you’re going to need something. Whether it is something as basic as, human interaction, food or medicine / medical care. Skype is going to be offline bros, so if you’re a pale ass geek who is afraid of human interaction … you’re fucked. Try and get over any socially related phobias now so that you can naturally interact with other people you may encounter, when you need to.

With survival in mind and wanting to expand the topic beyond Guns, Ammo and Kill ‘em all let God sort ‘em out, here are some other things to consider.

Communication

Communication is going to be extremely vital for survival and sanity. Phone lines and cell towers are very likely going to be inoperable. This will be on purpose initially to limit communication while martial law is implemented. Afterwards you better be someone damn important if you expect to be able to make a call on a cell phone or landline. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE – I was a contractor for the Gov.’s office of homeland security for four years, you need a special calling card for both land lines and cell phones and you are placed in a queue which is regulated by the number on our card in order of departmental levels of hierarchy and importance. We had mock drills regarding all this with the H1N1 scare a few years ago. So, what do you do? Here are some options:

1) HAM RADIO –buy and learn to operate one now! You can also send 160 character emails via Ham radio from one station to another. More info on that here: http://www.winlink.org/ also here is a cheapo version [ame=http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-UV-5R-136-174-400-480-Dual-Band/dp/B007H4VT7A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT1_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3IFFFP5MGDV1&coliid=IBD8K40DWKNZU]Amazon.com: BaoFeng UV-5R 136-174/400-480 MHz Dual-Band DTMF CTCSS DCS FM Ham Two Way Radio: Electronics[/ame]
2) CB – yep, good ole Citizens Band Radio… breaker, breaker 1 9. Good for a four mile radius with a good antenna. With a shitty antenna you’re good for ½ mile to 1 ½ miles of coverage depending on terrain. I have used this one hunting in Alabama (hilly terrain and in hollows with no problems) [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Cobra-HHROADTRIP-40-Channel-CB-Radio/dp/B000069DOV/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3IFFFP5MGDV1&coliid=I6DKJFFLRJWT]Amazon.com: Cobra HHROADTRIP 40-Channel CB Radio: Car Electronics[/ame]
3) Satellite Phone – THIS IS THE PREFERRED METHOD for all you ballers out there. However, It does no good in our scenario unless the party you’re calling has one too! Best phone for use in North America: [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Iridium-9555-Satellite-Phone/dp/B002EWZO3U/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_7]Amazon.com: Iridium 9555 Satellite Phone: Electronics[/ame]

A true prepper has all three!

Antennas for transmitting and receiving - https://www.box.com/s/emqwv1ee3hzte10mxf7x
Pirate Radio Manual - https://www.box.com/s/m7uto45vyg00sfht31l4

Shelter:

While having a home in Montana with a well and a wind turbine are ideal in this scenario, it isn’t practical for many of us for a variety of reasons. So what do you do? One option is to find the cheapest land possible that has decent soil properties for planting and water well usage and build a survival shelter on it. You have to do some due diligence and make sure you understand of all the covenants in the area you bought your land in as to what building codes are and square footage minimums etc, but a good idea is a metal shipping container. It’s trendy as fuck right now to buy one and modify the shit out of it, but for our purposes here is what you need.
1) Shipping Container – ranging from free to $2400
2) Spray foam insulate the inside – less than $350 if you do it yourself. Rent the machine from Home Depot or a local tool rental shop.
3) Metal Grinder – to cut some windows and ventilation holes.
4) Heater/A.C. units to install.

Obviously depending on what type of power you plan on using, dictates what models of ac/heat units you buy. I would be practical and get things used in RV/Campers that can be ran on propane and solar/ battery banks. Remember this doesn't have to be pretty, just functional.

More elaborate dwellings are also an option with shipping containers –
Amazing home built out of two shipping containers : theCHIVE

Where to look for land:
Real Estate > Land | eBay
Land For Sale - Cheap Land & Property with Affordable Payments and No Credit Check at Land Central
Land for Sale - Cheap Land with Payments - Land for Sale by Owner - Lots for Sale - Land4Less.us
http://www.classiccountryland.com/



Security and Lookout:
Tower construction and elevated shelters. Good stuff to know.
https://www.box.com/s/vfzht8o1orzttrsh39te

Bartering/Trade:
Tangible items like ammo, home canned/bottled foods are great for barter/trade. But what’s even better are fucking skills… Like welding and blacksmithing skills.
You can learn to weld off Youtube: learn to weld - YouTube

And here is a good Primitive Blacksmithing guide in Pdf format:
https://www.box.com/s/8em983rsm22e9dfl54sg
If you don’t know how to can your own food see here:
https://www.box.com/s/khk1hph7y1a2tsfk1cly
 


Medical needs:

It’s difficult to stock up on needed medications without a prescription. How do we get around this and not break the law? EASY – we buy the veterinary equivalents of what we anticipate needing.

YOU NEED TO HAVE:
Penicillin - Penicillin Information from Drugs.com
Purchase here Cal Vet Supply - Penicillin 500 mg. - 60 Tablets
Amoxicillin Amoxicillin Information from Drugs.com
Purchase here Cal Vet Supply - Amoxicillin 500mg, Online antibiotic, Fish Amoxicillin
Ciprofloxacin, or Cipro Keflex Information from Drugs.com
Purchase here Cal Vet Supply - Cephalexin Capsules 500 mg. - 100 Caps
Doxycycline Doxycycline Uses
Purchase here Cal Vet Supply - Doxycycline Hyclate 100 mg. - 100 Capsules
DOSAGES AND NOTES REGARDING VETERINARY DRUGS
Joseph Alton, MD, is a medical doctor and Fellow of the American College of Surgeons and the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology. He is also a prepper, and writes:
“These antibiotics are used at specific doses for specific illnesses; the exact dosage of each and every medication is beyond the scope of this [article]. Suffice it to say that most penicillin and cephalosporin (Keflex and other cephalexin) medications are taken at 500mg dosages, 3-4 times a day for adults, and 250mg dosages for children, whereas Metronidazole (250mg) and Doxycycline (100mg) are taken twice a day.
It’s important to have as much information as possible on medications that you plan to store for times of trouble, so consider purchasing a hard copy of the latest Physician’s Desk Reference. This book comes out yearly and has just about every bit of information that exists on a particular medication, including those that do not require prescription. Indications, dosage, risks, and side effects are all listed.”
In Closing
Dr. Alton ends with a great reminder regarding the state of affairs that we might one day find ourselves in:
“If we ever find ourselves without modern medical care, we will have to improvise medical strategies that we perhaps might be reluctant to consider today. Without hospitals, it will be up to the [field] medic to treat infections. That responsibility will be difficult to carry out without the weapons to fight disease, such as antibiotics.

First Aid Pack/with basic surgical tools - [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Fully-Stocked-Medical-First-Aid/dp/B004Q5UASW/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1354834670&sr=8-8&keywords=surgical+kit]Amazon.com: Fully Stocked Stomp Medical First Aid Kit Back Pack: Health & Personal Care[/ame]



Poisonous Snake and Lizard Guide- https://www.box.com/s/cw92r9wz34jpv9w297y8


Poisonous Plant Guide - https://www.box.com/s/sxmhtlwd4e0unyx5i76d


Water Treatment
https://www.box.com/s/ld2fblo5t1j7creycvbx

Trapping
https://www.box.com/s/qk377reort5hae6q2dm2

Lagniappe – The Ultimate Guide to Wilderness Living
https://www.box.com/s/gmtvaxuvbmwhs4q0l1wp

I hope this helps in your getting prepared.
 
Cool man, thanks for all the good info. I am going to save these and go thru them all. I love shit like this.
 
Would that BaoFeng UV-5R work for camping/hiking emergencies where you don't have cell service?
 
Would that BaoFeng UV-5R work for camping/hiking emergencies where you don't have cell service?

Yes. But if you're serious about your gear get this:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtaPWAZgtaI]Ultimate Rugged Preparedness Radio Comm part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Yaesu-VX-7R-Triple-Amateur-Transceiver/dp/B005A5YD6M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1354843508&sr=1-1&keywords=Yaesu+VX-7R]Amazon.com: Yaesu VX-7R Triple Band 50/144/430MHZ Amateur Radio Transceiver (Black): Electronics[/ame]
 
Stupid ass post... First, who the fucks gonna check their email or have the power to do so to connect to your walkie talkie setup - unless of course you have solar... And if that's the case, I'm sure "ISPs" will be down eliminating your ability to check your email.

As for the satellite phones, so the worlds gonna go to hell but satellites will still be up and fully operational?

As for bartering my ammo, how bout I shoot to kill and simply take what I want? I dam sure as hell won't be trading my ammo for nothing....

Human interaction? Fuck that... I'm gonna turn into a mole person and hunker down in some cave with my generation 3 night vision scope, AR-15 suppressed/flash hidden, ghillie suit and live off the land.

How does human interaction take place on that show the walking dead?

But go ahead and follow those thoughts.
 
As a quick FYI, i'll be releasing a pretty good resource for all the SHTF/Preppers on here. If you feel led to contribute, PM me and we can work something out.
 
Stupid ass post... First, who the fucks gonna check their email or have the power to do so to connect to your walkie talkie setup - unless of course you have solar... And if that's the case, I'm sure "ISPs" will be down eliminating your ability to check your email.

As for the satellite phones, so the worlds gonna go to hell but satellites will still be up and fully operational?

As for bartering my ammo, how bout I shoot to kill and simply take what I want? I dam sure as hell won't be trading my ammo for nothing....

Human interaction? Fuck that... I'm gonna turn into a mole person and hunker down in some cave with my generation 3 night vision scope, AR-15 suppressed/flash hidden, ghillie suit and live off the land.

How does human interaction take place on that show the walking dead?

But go ahead and follow those thoughts.

#1 As long as a carrington event doesn't take place, Sat phones will still work reliably.

#2 Some will be barterers, some will be killers. In the history of SHTF events, both can actually co-exist. The ones that get eaten alive are people who did not prepare. (See Serbia, Zimbabwe and Argentina).

#3 I could kill a mole person in 15 minutes in a all-out scenario. It would fare much better if someone was in a group.

#4 The likelyhood of the walking dead taking place in real life is about as likely as "Santa clause conquers the Martians"
 
You're gonna DIE sometime!!!

Who the FUCK wants to continue their DISMAL existence in a Post Nuclear Apocalyptic World? For what, to be KING of the fucking ROACHES?!!



Good fucking Grief.


I've only got like 30 GOOD years left in me anyhow.


So, when it gets to that I really won't give a SHIT!!!


Lulz


Do you really want to EAT Glowing animals?

Do you really want to drink water that BURNS your innards?

Do you really want to fuck Women/Men/Animals whose hair & teeth are falling out?


If it's a Red Dawn type of scenario and NO NUKES, then I say FUCK YEAH!! Let's get JIGGY WITH IT!!


But when it come to Nuclear Fallout......I've Played Fallout 3, there ain't much PUSSY or FOOD around anymore.

Let the DAMN ZOMBIES have it all!!!


ROFLMAO!!
 
Nuclear fallout is very well over-stated. It's not a fun thing by any means, but even if all nuclear weapons were deployed, fallout still would not be comparable to what the media represents.

The fallout produced from the Chernobyl event has subsided very significantly.
 
I think it is important to start prep with simple things like: water, food, shelter, gasoline, candles, etc. Basically, protect yourself from another Sandy.

Not living in the city/suburbs makes a lot of things easier.
 

Hmmmm.

Battery, Belt Clip... and CHARGER.

Good luck bros.

j/k, I love this shit, and I've been prepping for over 20 years now.

But I'm a minimalist, and have focused more on skills (as Yuma so importantly points out) and things like non-powered hunting gear, crossbows, longbows, edged weapons, snare rigs, fishing rigs, small portable tools, etc.

Yeah, I got a lotta fuckin guns too, and all the reloading shit I prolly need for a decade of "WarZ", but that shit runs OUT eventually.

So does medical stuff, and it EXPIRES too- better to have knowledge and decent physical conditioning- that's what's gonna save your ass and make you rock-star in the NWO.

And FUCK YOU, Dresden, you misanthropic dimwit- I <3 ya anyways, but you on your own would be my MEAT, bitch.

Identify your local tribe, be that family, friends, or another like-minded group- get some easily portable stuff together in a bug-out kit, and then EDUCATE yourself.

Be Prepared, Bitches.
 
You crazy people are almost as bad as religious freaks ... you believe in santa claus too? For a bunch of people who claim to be marketers, some of us sure do fall for the MARKETING ...
 
#1 As long as a carrington event doesn't take place, Sat phones will still work reliably.

.... So this end of the world situation of yours is co-dependent on the electrical grid still being up?

#2 Some will be barterers, some will be killers. In the history of SHTF events, both can actually co-exist. The ones that get eaten alive are people who did not prepare. (See Serbia, Zimbabwe and Argentina).

agreed

#3 I could kill a mole person in 15 minutes in a all-out scenario. It would fare much better if someone was in a group.

no you can't. how can you fight or kill something you cannot see? I know I get shit for that one picture of me in a ghillie suit, but I've got several different variations. In addition to this, having CR123 batteries, a solar panel recharging kit, a $4,000+ Generation 3 night vision scope, flash supressors, other proper atire (scarfs, paint, gloves, boots, etc) -- you'd have absolutley NO ability to strike (UNLESS) you were a complete baller and had thermal vision...

#4 The likelyhood of the walking dead taking place in real life is about as likely as "Santa clause conquers the Martians"

I don't believe in zombie nonsense either, but do believe that in a shtf scenario the world would be very much like that minus the zombies - but instead with looters, scumbags, killers, rapists, etc.


You crazy people are almost as bad as religious freaks ... you believe in santa claus too? For a bunch of people who claim to be marketers, some of us sure do fall for the MARKETING ...

And fuck you santa claus is real
 
no you can't. how can you fight or kill something you cannot see? I know I get shit for that one picture of me in a ghillie suit, but I've got several different variations. In addition to this, having CR123 batteries, a solar panel recharging kit, a $4,000+ Generation 3 night vision scope, flash supressors, other proper atire (scarfs, paint, gloves, boots, etc) -- you'd have absolutley NO ability to strike (UNLESS) you were a complete baller and had thermal vision...





And fuck you santa claus is real

Infrared and a drone flying at 5,000 feet can map about 10 square kilometers a hour and can do it quite accurately.