Ignore the morons, Ubuntu is a piece of shit. Go with the support of a fine company like Novell and hit up Suse for some hardcore action. And before some dipshit tries arguing with me, I give you a challenge, fly to Chicago and get Ubuntu to run on my laptop and I'll give you $1k cash.
Anyone use a Linux OS?
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DOS is the only good OS Microsoft ever created.
I haven't used it, but you might try Main Page - Banshee
I totally agree.
I started using Linux in 1997. The learning curve was very steep and time consuming (especially back then), but I kept at it. Because every now and then I saw the light and had many profound A-ha experiences which kept me going (actually they were more of a "holy-shit!" experiences that made me realize the enormous potential for increased productivity due to the way a unix system is designed from the user point of view).
At first most things seemed very odd and difficult becuase I was used to Windows which has been designed for ease of use, not efficiency. Unix/Linux on the other hand allows one to become increasingly more efficient as one learns more about the system.
Today, from a programmer/webmaster/SysAdmin perspective I roughly estimate that my productivity is about 3 - 4 x higher compared to doing things on Windows. Every time I use windows these days I feel like a cripple going through knee-high, thick mud...
I think each linux newbie should try a few distros until he finds the one that suits his personality best. Some people prefer the latest and greatest over stability and maturity; fancy GUI looks over usability; frequent new releases over few; "just use it" versus "I like to know how this works"; etc. So find what satisfies your needs best and stick with it for as long as it works for you.
I started with RedHat, later migrated to Mandrake, then to Suse and since around 2002 I have been a very happy Slackware user. I tried each distro for at least a year. One of the main problems I had, until I found Slackware, were frontend GUI's not working properly and too much change from release to release, and growing bloat. So I started looking for a distro that is very reliable, basic, stable and adds new features that really make the distro better, not because they are cute or popular. I found that in Slackware.
how do you save time? I used redhat, but didn't stick with it cause i can never get my sound card and wireless card to work.
I have a few friend using ubuntu. I want to switch, someday
Honestly, how do you expect me to answer that? It's like asking a good marathon runner, who has been training for 10 years, how come he runs faster than most people?
In the end its all about a lot of practice, dedication, and having the ability to learn as much as you can from your experiences (the failures and successes) and continually adjust in order to improve - which ultimately gets you closer to your goals faster. Its the cumulative effect of thousands of experiences gained over the years that combined far exceed the abilities of those who keep on scratching the surface every now and then (and get quickly discouraged when the surface gets a little tough).
I would say I save time with unix due to the following reasons:
- a cmd shell and a keyboard is A LOT faster than a mouse and clicking around, believe it or not
- editors like vim for programming are a lot faster than every fancy windows ide
- unix is modular as hell, that means you create scripts and concatenate the output with other scripts like a long chain of filters
- unix is incredible fast, especially if you use textmode tools (and you'll discover that console apps are quite cool)
- programs are not installed locally, that means, I for myself have a home dir with config files for all my programs (which are simple text files) and this dir is _completely_ separated from the OS itself (eg. a windows backup is a lot more work than a unix backup because on unix is basically just a bunch of textfiles)
... and there is sooo much more
- a cmd shell and a keyboard is A LOT faster than a mouse and clicking around, believe it or not
- editors like vim for programming are a lot faster than every fancy windows ide
- unix is modular as hell, that means you create scripts and concatenate the output with other scripts like a long chain of filters
- unix is incredible fast, especially if you use textmode tools (and you'll discover that console apps are quite cool)
- programs are not installed locally, that means, I for myself have a home dir with config files for all my programs (which are simple text files) and this dir is _completely_ separated from the OS itself (eg. a windows backup is a lot more work than a unix backup because on unix is basically just a bunch of textfiles)
... and there is sooo much more
I'm a gamer, but longtime Linux user on the backend. I haven't tried Linux as a desktop in a few years.
I don't think I could give up Windows (XP) as my primary desktop because of being a gamer, anyway. I am pretty productive, I rarely have crashes, and those are usually directly related to a bad app. And I've only locked up like twice in the past year.
I don't think I could give up Windows (XP) as my primary desktop because of being a gamer, anyway. I am pretty productive, I rarely have crashes, and those are usually directly related to a bad app. And I've only locked up like twice in the past year.
I've been using Linux almost exclusively for over 10 years. And I work on Solaris, AIX and Linux systems at my "day job".
Mac seems like the best of both worlds. You get a UI that just works and you get access to a UNIX shell. I'm thinking of switching to Apple (or at least giving it a shot), on the desktop side. Probably getting a MacBook Pro within a few months.
Mac seems like the best of both worlds. You get a UI that just works and you get access to a UNIX shell. I'm thinking of switching to Apple (or at least giving it a shot), on the desktop side. Probably getting a MacBook Pro within a few months.
I recently switched to Kubuntu, and I've used Windows my whole life. Setting it up is fairly easy...probably the easiest of all linux distros. I run it on my laptop full-time now. The most time-consuming part is probably setting everything up and tweaking your whole machine to just how you like it. But that's also the best part. You can fine tune every setting and every little thing in Kubuntu to JUST how you like it. And.....everything is free. There's probably 12 software repositories in my sources.list and whenever i need a new piece of software, I pop open apt-get do a search for what I'm looking for and bam. It's all right there for me, separated into categories and everything. And....everything is auto-updating, which is nice. And....if you ever find yourself in need of a windows app, there's always wine. Most windows software that I have become accustomed to works fine under wine. So...that's just my two cents. If you're seriously considering linux, then by all means go for it.
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