Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

emp said:
How do you even arrive at those numbers? 15-20% where is that stat from? Ah... you pulled it out of thin air? That's what I thought.

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He's trying to quote Brigitte Gabriel from the previous video who claims that intelligence agencies put the number of radical Muslims between 15-25%. You can search around the web and find all kinds of estimates from 1% all the way up to 70%. A lot of the numbers come from polls carried around the world...

Muslim attitudes towards terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Muslim Opinion Polls - Challenging the 'Tiny Minority of Extremists' Myth

http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/did_i_say_that/2010/sep/13/not-all-muslims-are-radic/

Not All Muslims Are Radicals!

There are an estimated 1,570,000,000 (1.57 Billion) Muslims, worldwide; that is over one-fifth (23%) of the world's population. Approximately 10.4 million Muslims live in the United States. Nowhere near all, not even anywhere near a majority, are radicals that would be willing to be terrorists. That number is much smaller.

The most liberal of conservatives' estimates is 36.6%, or 574.6 million radical Muslims. More conservative estimates suggest that only 1 to 7 percent of Muslims could be considered radical. An estimate of one percent would bring the number of radicals down to 15,700,000 potential terrorists. If the statistics hold true, then the United States may be host to 104,000 radical Muslims. Be advised that all estimates were based on surveys where the respondent had to approve of the 911 attacks on the United States and admit that they hate the Great Satan. Are 15,700,000 (15.7 Million) radicals enough?
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As you can see, even if the number is only 1%, which I think is ridiculously low, the numbers are not insignificant.

More poll stats...

The Myth of the Tiny Radical Muslim Minority - Breitbart

https://sites.google.com/site/islam...w-many-muslims-are-there-how-many-are-jihadis

Etc.
 


James_Clarke said:
Breaking News: 'At Least Six Hostages' In Paris Supermarket

At least six people, including children, have been taken hostage at a kosher supermarket in Paris after a shootout, reports say.
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I was wondering when the jews would get blamed for something in these recent events :rolleyes:
 
jerry55 said:
el o fuckin' el

You are a clueless, xenophobic racist. GTFO.
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O rly? So what percentage of Muslims do you think are radicalized? Keep in mind that doesn't mean they need to pick up an AK47 or cut off someone's head. They simply need to be sympathizers and supporters of radical ideology and would condone the kind of attacks we've seen in recent history.
 
Chill guys, maybe he is just trolling.
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emp said:
How do you even arrive at those numbers? 15-20% where is that stat from? Ah... you pulled it out of thin air? That's what I thought.

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ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK - Telegraph

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
Many British Muslims Put Islam First - CBS News
WebCite query result

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
A Year After Iraq War | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
PJ Media
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
 
conjamuk said:
ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK - Telegraph

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
Many British Muslims Put Islam First - CBS News
WebCite query result

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
A Year After Iraq War | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
PJ Media
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
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Thank you.

These other fuckers are in denial.
 
emp said:
How do you even arrive at those numbers? 15-20% where is that stat from? Ah... you pulled it out of thin air? That's what I thought.

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I would post articles here, and actual stats, but you would probably not read them and tell me I am grouping all Muslims in as terrorists again, which I have never done once.

You are thinking too black and white. My position is that with regard to Muslims it's the gray area that is the problem.
 
conjamuk said:
Jerry55 is a troll. I always get a good laugh when I see his posts.
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Le wut?

Just because I don't hold racist, xenophobic views doesn't make me a "troll."

Let me guess, anyone who disagrees with a certain group on a forum is a troll, right?

Go away.
 
jerry55 said:
This has nothing to do with "liberal" or "conservative." Try opening your eyes.
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I think he's just pointing out how people such as yourself have overused the term "racist" so much that it no longer retains its original meaning. To people like you, anything that negatively impacts or reflects poorly on someone who isn't a white male is due to omgzracizms.

Just change your user name to Gawker and own it.
 
To the President of France

French President Hollande: Terrorists 'Have Nothing to Do With Muslim Religion'

Can we stop repeating this nonsense Mr Hollande - I know you are on WickedFire regularly so here's my response which I expect to see reply to.

Lets do thought experiment here.

Imagine the same guys (those killers) being born is some non-Muslim family. All the circumstances the same - same education level, same status, same ugly faces, all stays the same.

Will they kill 12 people in the name of Jesus, Buddha, Jew-God or atheism?

No.

Perhaps they would just be poor Catholics, non-successful Jews, angry atheists. But not killers.

Islam was a decisive factor - the main one contributing to killings.

If they did not hear about Allah and her achievements in popularizing pedophilia they would never done this. Even if they were brainwashed to do it it was still possible because they were Muslims in the first place.

So can we stop this "it has nothing to do with this religion" nonsense?
 
faceblogger said:
Fuck me. Accidentally clicked the dislike button after clicking the like, seems no way to remove it. Well +reped hahaha.
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Face disliking my post. I've got, what?, like 2 dislikes alltogether. And one of them comes from my Dear (now ex) Lover Faceblogger.

Muslims taking over Europe, Faceblogger disliking my post... what's next?
 
Marketers being marketed to... Again.

Can any of you have an original thought? Do you really think there's no possibility that you're being manipulated to do exactly what "the terrorists" want you to do?

The classmates of an 18-year-old suspect in the Paris shooting, that occurred yesterday afternoon at the offices of Charlie Hebdo magazine, have protested his innocence by saying that he was in class at the time of the incident in which 12 people were murdered.

Hamyd Mourad was reported to have handed himself to the police at around 11pm last night after he saw his name mentioned on the news and his friends and acquaintances have said that he has an alibi, as they claim he was present in the classrooms that day.
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Charlie Hebdo: Classmates protest innocence of suspect Hamyd Mourad, 18, with school alibi - Europe - World - The Independent

Why would a Jihadist terrorist turn himself in? Why would multiple highschool kids B.S. about him being in class?

According to Reuters, a police source said one attacker was “identified by his identity card, which had been left in the (abandoned) getaway car.”
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What kind of criminal leaves an ID card behind? How did they smuggle guns in? How the hell did they evade being captured/killed within minutes?

And more importantly, who benefits? The media gets traffic. The State(s) get a terrified public and a race war. Not to mention demands for more security (control), public support of more wars, aggression, military funding, etc...

I don't claim to know what happened. I've spent less than 10 minutes looking into it.

But accepting the state/media narrative as Dogma without question is fucking retarded. This entire thread is debating on the assumption that the story you're being spoon-fed is the gospel.

I'm a white dude in the midwest. I have no dog in this fight beyond worrying about people's ability to have an original thought. It's a horrible tragedy - it'd be immoral to let those people die without really asking WHY?

Does it further a radical extremists agenda or a state, a rouge unit or something else? Are you being manipulated? Distracted? Misdirected? Controlled?

This is a marketing forum. The official narrative could be true, it could be B.S. Either way there are lessons to be learned. A hypothetical lesson could be "marketing forum too naive to question propaganda".

Eh, whatever. Good luck bros.
 
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