Mozilla executive tells Firefox users to use Bing

Listen, arguing about this is fucking retarded because none of us know what is going to happen. For every business that has folded to competition there is ten that have held their ground.

I'm making a judgement based on the current market, what Google have to offer currently to their users and concepts they are developing.

Of course I could be wrong and maybe something will topple Google; but not only will it be extremely difficult - there will have to be some major enhancements in both user functionality and features.

The difference between AOL and Google is that AOL did nothing to evolve, sat on their arses and watched while the internet passed them by. Google are tuned into, and are evolving web technologies; I find it seriously hard to believe that they are going to stand still in a similar way to AOL etc.

And slickcooldude:
Yahoo AOL Ask Friendster Myspace are not Google you ass. The reason they became null and void is because something better came along.
Dullspace.
 


Perhaps I was a bit short sighted ... or perhaps I was spot on. I'm talking strictly revenue, which is the bottom line for any mega-corporation.

Android, gmail, wave, etc will all follow the exact same revenue paradigm it currently has. That's not diversity my friend. True, they can always change the way they monetize but since they've been biting the hand that feeds them (google ban anyone?) for so long, advertisers are fleeing from their platform.

Less competition = less click price = declining revenue.

The only thing google has expanded it's widget making ability, that will allow them to die a slow and painful death.

I stand behind my statement. If you take down search, you take down the beast.

Does Google not get a percentage of revenue per sold Android phone? Seems like they would get more than advertising revenue out of mobile.
 
And being replaced with the equivalent inside Google. Affiliate/Sales cash will go straight into Googles pocket, which will more than replace revenue garnered from advertising.

I think we all have come to the conclusion that Google wants in on the affiliate action, and why wouldn't they, it would be an endless cash cow.

Without searchers, will they still be able to produce 21 billion in revenue even if they are 100% of the ads? Aol still has people using their search engine, I'm not suggesting that google will decline to nothing, not by a long shot.

I also think as real-time search takes over, we will see an influx of new Adwords users as their site used to show up at the top of the SERPs but has been overtaken by some stupid fucking Twitter feed or other real-time bullshit blog post.

And stupid fucking tweets are another thing that will make their SERPs worthless, opening the door a little wider for someone else to enter the market.

The whole basis of my argument is that search is their bread and butter and you guys are still talking like google always be around to the extent they are today. I know they're healthy now, I'm not suggesting that they are currently on a decline.

Both of the arguments above depend on google's 75% market share to keep them in power. Again, if you take out search, you take down the beast.
 
Does Google not get a percentage of revenue per sold Android phone? Seems like they would get more than advertising revenue out of mobile.

Steve Ballmer Pretends Not To Understand Google Android Pricing Strategy

It's all the same old advertising business model ... it's working currently, I'm not taking that away from them. All they're doing is empowering people to use the internet on their phones, there's no requirement that they have to use google to search (although I'm sure it's the default start page).
 
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... take it from us "old guys". We've seen this stuff before.
Walmart > Sears, Netflix > Blockbuster, FCC > AT&T, Toyota > GM, FOXNEWS > NBC are just a few.

Fuck The Google.
Stop using the word google when refering to search.
Promote The Bing. Pump it.

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: "Bing makes my Panties Moist"
 
So you're saying Google will only brought down by anti-trust stuff? Standard Oil was dominating before they were broken up.
This is not true. Standard Oil was already in decline by the time anti-trust brought it down. Competitive forces were at play.

I highly recommend Tom DiLorenzo's book "How Capitalism Saved America". You'll never think about anti-trust the same way again. For the people for whom these things matter, DiLorenzo is a best selling author as an economics historian, and a Professor at Loyola Maryland.

This is a great presentation, worth checking out if you are into marketing, free markets, capitalism, business, economics etc.

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Google will eventually come down, the Roman Empire came down. What we're seeing are the small cracks that undermine the fascia of Google dominance. One person of note says switch, 3 months later, another person says the same thing. One year from now, in a high profile tech interview, someone of note will say, "Yeah, I switched from Google to Bing, it's just a better search engine".

Google is not going to go from 80% share to 20% in a year. But if their share falls to 70%, they are greatly weakened. There is a momentum to natural monopolies based on perception of market dominance that are self fulfilling. Undermine that perception, and people start to wander.

Anyone who follows pro-sports knows the difference in the fervor of the fan base of a winning team and a team that's is only a contender. A team on the way up, and a team on the way down (or just hanging around).

Marketers should understand this stuff.
 
For most people the term "Even Rome fell" means nothing but "even this once great empire fell."

While this is true it is not important, especially in this case, that Rome fell but how it fell.

Rome had a series of bad rulers who decided to broaden the empire from it's core. We're talking mid Africa, Britain, etc when this was happening a great drought hit the Chinese area which caused a chain reaction of violent nomadic people to move west - towards the Roman empire.

As each tribe kicked another tribe out they all started coming towards the Roman empire one at a time. Each tribe dented the amour of the Empire and even forced the troops out of certain desolate areas in Eastern Europe.

It got to the point where these tribes eventually came knocking on Rome's front door and Rome couldn't protect themselves even after calling back nearly all their troops from places like Britain etc.

This whole process took decades to do. The Roman empire's peak was centuries before this started to happen.

In terms of Google I see them as, like Erect has very well put it, deversifying from their core. Which is not necessarily a bad thing but when they neglect their core, or in Google's case bite the hand that feeds them, rumbles can start to occur. (Like with Rome.)

Maybe Bing takes 10% of Google's market share, maybe a new search engine takes another 10%. All of a sudden Google's main profit base is dwindling, share holders are wondering what's going on and maybe Google's next great product flops.

Is that all disastrous? Of course not. But it's the beginning of a downfall that would need to be quickly stopped by some big news.

Google can fall - and I do think that Google's on a slippery slope and will start to go down.
 
Even if Bing were to overtake Google, what makes you guys think that Microsoft wouldn't eventually implement the same practices that Google does? Remember, we're talking about Microsoft.

You're right, but for marketers this has more to do with spreading out market share. 10 search engines with 10% share would lead to lower overall prices, less pickiness about what can be advertised, etc.
 
AOL was once very mighty. I could probably dig back in the old files of the great booming stock bubble of circa 1998 and produce a list a mile long. Some that immediately come to mind are Collector's Universe (they were huge before eBay took them out), CMGI, pets.com, eToys.com, InfoSpace, @home (merged with Excite), etc....


etoys and pets.com were big because of stupid investors and failed because of shitty management...they were not mighty but for a second while they had vc/ipo $ coming in
 
This is not true. Standard Oil was already in decline by the time anti-trust brought it down. Competitive forces were at play.

I highly recommend Tom DiLorenzo's book "How Capitalism Saved America". You'll never think about anti-trust the same way again. F

Cheers, added to my amazon wishlist for my family to buy me for xmas. Better be fucking good!
 
I should add, I just rewatched that video, and it only gets really interesting for the layman after the 35 minute mark. The first bit is more for people who are into economics in a serious way. But after 35 minutes, some great stories about anti-trust, and the doublethink behind the policy vis a vis the market.
 
As was Standard Oil once....

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