Looks like America WILL have National Health Care after tonight
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Every one of those guys has an affiliate program, and everyone of them are old school Gary Halbert style advertisers... which means they're landing pages are 20 screen long pieces of shit.
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It's pretty clear to me that you have a severe case of black and white thinking. The real world has actual shades of gray in it.
I'm not advocating communism, but rather a balance of capitalism and socialism. Which is what we, along with every other industrialized country, already have.
You can go live in the woods if you want. No one's stopping you. You'll be free out there. Good luck.
Try again. Being in the lucky 1.93% category means I get to gripe as much as the rest of you, if I so choose. Thing is my political beliefs don't change depending on how much money I make. That seems shallow and immature to me.
Whos up for the next potshot? You guys are on a roll today.
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I had to quote this cause this is funny as shit! LOL
On another note...
Fact is, if the US was number one when it comes to health care I would see why people are afraid to change it. We BARELY passed Cuba, seriously?
Now, according to all charts, France is number one in health care, I wonder what they are doing that we aren't?
Screw the fact that we saved their asses countless times, they live longer than we do. Fuck everything else, I want my family to live as long as possible, as healthy as possible.
Government by its nature is inefficient and this entitlement will only make us all more dependent on our inefficient government. We are royally shafted and it will be extremely difficult to undo. The Democrats have screwed themselves this time for sure. The general public was against this and will have their revenge in the fall elections.
Wait a minute. Don't the official statistics show that the USA has one of the most expensive and yet far from the best health care system's in the world?
Investors business daily outlines 20 ways Obamacare will take away your freedoms.
20 Ways ObamaCare Will Take Away Our Freedoms
20 Ways ObamaCare Will Take Away Our Freedoms
There is no point in arguing any of this because it just comes back to the liberty V. life debate.
I only made the comparison because in a perfect communism you don't need to force anyone to share something, because they'll do it anyway, that's the ideal of perfect communism. What I'm saying is that charity is never enough, because not everyone is unselfish enough to provide for those that need help. There's still no point in arguing this because it comes back to the bottom point.
I meant society is forced to choose between two evils. One of them is to preserve the complete rights of the individual (forsaking those in need), and the other is to ignore some of these (stealing as you call it) in order to provide for those that need help. I'm simply admitting that they are both wrong, but society has to choose either way.
As I've already said, if you completely preserve property rights then you have the problem that charity never goes far enough. And if the state provides for those in need, then you're forsaking property rights.
No it means you care about the life of both X and Y, you're just prioritising life over liberty by sacrificing the liberty (but not the life) of Y in order to safe the life of X.
If you went back and read all of her posts then surely you noticed the pattern of her always agreeing with the government, more specifically the left jacking from the rich to give to the poor.
Listen bro, it's the internet, she isn't going to fuck you, it's OK for you to disagree with her.
The people that are bitching at those of us that don't agree with the way that the left is passing health care reform, can you answer a couple of questions?
If it is such a great bill, why did Pelosi and the others have such a hard time even getting all of the dems on board?
Do you think it is right that in some cases it took "bribes" to get votes?
Do you think it's right that even though the majority of Americans didn't want the bill passed they did so anyway?
I don't think that there is a single person here that wouldn't like to see every man, woman, and child covered with comprehensive medical insurance. I know I sure as hell would like to see it!
However, I don't want to see it at the expense of the government reaching in and getting even more control over my life.
Now they get to tell me what an acceptable health plan is, If I don't agree, I get fined.
Now they get to tax me even more so that my money can go towards covering other people who I don't even know. If I wanted to donate to charity, I would do so, charity isn't something that should be forced.
Anyone that actually earns a decent living is already getting taxed to death for free school lunch programs, welfare, food stamps, medicaid, cell phones for the poor, fuel assistance. Where the fuck do they draw the line, when does it end?
We are not far off from the Federal Government telling us what kind of car we can drive to be inline with the new pollution standards they will no doubt cram down our throats soon.
It won't be long until the Federal Government is forcing our children to perform a certain amount of community service, Obama has already mentioned this.
Soon there won't be one single thing that we do, or one decision that we make that won't somehow be affected by rules, regulations, and laws that the government has put in place.
Again I ask, where does the line get drawn?
Just because on the surface something seems right, or for the greater good of everyone, doesn't mean that it is right. We are supposed to have a certain amount of freedom, and free will, but I'll be damned if all of that isn't slowly starting to disappear.
They'll get their revenge by electing people from the group that expanded Medicare a few years ago and who always expands government.
"Screw you Budweiser! From now on, we're drinking Bud Light!"
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Well, if you're already paying taxes and medical/insurance bills, then you are already paying for little Johnie's injury, along with the soccer game in which he hurt himself. Even if we ignore what Americans spend for insurance, we're still left with the US government alone already spending more per person on health care than countries who can cover everyone.
Yeh man, it really sucks over here in Europe with all this lack of freedom..
Our high prison rates per capita, terrible and expensive healthcare, harsh drug laws and religious control...
Lulz.
I love reading all the Eurotrash douchebags' comments here.
Not a single one of them have ever lived in a truly free society.
I suppose if you've never eaten a hamburger you are clueless to what you are really missing.
Not a single one of them have ever lived in a truly free society.
I suppose if you've never eaten a hamburger you are clueless to what you are really missing.
You live in a truly free society?
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Please name some ways in which your country is more free than mine. Being able to own assault rifles and handguns is the only core thing that comes to mind.
Besides the pro-life Democrats, I think some of them feel the bill is too much of a mixed bag - too watered down, too much compromise.
That's politics. Just part of the game. Not like the Republicans never do stuff like that. Do the ends justify the means? Depends how you feel about the ends, I suppose.
I think a lot of Americans don't really have informed opinions on the bill due to all the FUD flying around. Besides that, some for the same reasons as the congressional Democrats.
No one is getting taxed to death; that's pure hyperbole. On the other hand, people are actually dying because they can't get health care.
Personally, I don't think profit and health care mix well at all. Drug companies and doctors become drug pushers. Effective natural medicines are ignored or suppressed because there's no profit in them. Insurance companies do everything they can to get out of paying claims, or deny coverage.
We spend, per capita, more than any other country on health care, and yet, we have more people that don't have access to it at all. Every other industrialized country has universal health care, while simultaneously paying less for it than we do. And don't tell me the quality of our health care is so much better. Maybe if you're very rich and can afford the very best treatment.
We can do better. Hopefully, this bill is a stepping stone to something better.
Personally, I think health care should be a public service, available to anyone that needs it. Virtually everyone will need it at some point in their lives, something which is often unpredictable. It shouldn't matter whether they can afford it or not.
There's different kinds of freedom. What about freedom from illness? Freedom from debt incurred by the cost of treating that illness?