White People Facing Discrimination in Education

Yeah yeah yeah more SOB stories. Well hey man my grandparents were Irish, they were spit on when they came over here about 90 years ago. In fact, my Great-Grandma and Great-Grandpa dug holes for 25 years to pay for one child, my grandpa, out of a family of four to go to college. Yes, they LITERALLY dug fucking holes to provide a better life for their children. Where the FUCK is social program? Would I want one? Absolutely not because I would hate to think I had to have the government pay for my shit to live, I mean shit is isn't that hard to get a job.

And about blacks getting pulled over more often, you have to be shitting me right? Check this out homie, first result on google:

Swivel | Percent of U.S. Prison Population by Race (2005)

And don't you DARE call me racist, it is a straight FACT there are more black people in prison than any other race, and it is even worse when you consider blacks make up about 12% of the population. Is it right police officers pull them over more often? Probably not. Is it fair? Probably not. But BLACK PEOPLE COMMIT MORE CRIMES THAN ANYONE ELSE. And again I better not hear you call me racist, because that is a straight fucking fact buddy so it would only be logical they got pulled over more often right, because they are the ones committing most of the crimes. Simple logic there.

Now we can go back and forth all day why they commit more crimes and I'm sure you'll give me some argument like they don't have good opportunities, blah blah heard it 8000x before. The fact still remains the same that black people commit the most crimes, and when you look at it proportionally it is disgusting.

So is it right they are discriminated against? No. Can I see why they are discriminated against? Fuck yes.

lol, I'm glad you can read statistics, too bad you don't know shit about the root causes of crime to be able to analyze why the stats are the way they are. Let me blow your mind with a complimentary fact: people in jail are also mostly uneducated and poor. What makes you racist isn't the fact that you cited the statistic, but the fact that you don't give a shit as to why it is the way it is. Be honest, you see that number, and you think black people are the plague as if they can't help themselves but to commit crime. You honestly don't give a fuck about educating yourself as to WHY its so high. You just accept they commit crimes because thats the way they are. There are plenty of good black families out there JUST LIKE YOURS, working their asses off, but you don't care to see that. You just see what you want to see. Shieeet...are you a member of stormfront?
 


lol, I'm glad you can read statistics, too bad you don't know shit about the root causes of crime to be able to analyze why the stats are the way they are. Let me blow your mind with a complimentary fact: people in jail are also mostly uneducated and poor. What makes you racist isn't the fact that you cited the statistic, but the fact that you don't give a shit as to why it is the way it is. Be honest, you see that number, and you think black people are the plague as if they can't help themselves but to commit crime. You honestly don't give a fuck about educating yourself as to WHY its so high. You just accept they commit crimes because thats the way they are. There are plenty of good black families out there JUST LIKE YOURS, working their asses off, but you don't care to see that. You just see what you want to see. Shieeet...are you a member of stormfront?

I think you're playing games with us. You must be a troll or an alternative identity for riddarhusetgal.
 
So affirmative action (read reverse discrimination) is the only solution to one ethnic group within society has earnings that are unpar with other ethnic groups?

The thing you are missing here, Sr. (since you think you are so old), is the fact that statistics are not very accurate. Some black people earn a lot. Some white people earn a lot. Some black people are very poor. Some WHITE PEOPLE ARE VERY POOR.

Wouldn't it make sense to give scholarships based on lower income families, rather then ethnicity?

I mean, if the blacks and Hispanics are the only ones that are poor/come from harsh backgrounds, then surely they don't mind affirmative action being based on background/finances/etc ?

Since you are so well versed and intelligent, or at least you come off as thinking of yourself as such, I'm sure you can answer.

Financial scholarships are available at most universities based on family income. If you get accepted to a good school, you can apply for financial aid.

What you're probably thinking about are things like the united negro college fund, scholarships exclusively for blacks. Is that a little racist? Yeah. But guess what, most scholarships go to white students and pass over black students sheerly based on a numbers game. Most people respond "well if they created a white only scholarship fund, everyone would say its racist!". Well fuck, every scholarship is a white scholarship. There are MORE white people applying with higher grades, at a rate where a black kid with OK grades would never get into college.

Thats where the logical argument comes in and says "ok, well maybe black kids need exclusive help to financial aid". Its less about putting down the white, and more about empowering the black.
 
Yeah, next time your black and jew friends are around, ask which one of them gets pulled over by the police more often.

I don't know why you decided to bring jews into this. Being jewish and being black are kinda different if you didn't notice. You can't visibly discriminate one white jew from a white non-jew in a pile of people (unless you have excellent Jew-dar). But I love how creating analogies are always so easy for the simple minded. Jews persecuted during WWII were EUROPEAN BORN, had good jobs, were moderately wealthy or average. Black persecuted were SLAVES brought from Africa, had no education, no opportunity, in a land they knew nothing about. We're talking about people whose GREAT GREAT GRANDPARENTS were fucking slaves. We're talking about peoples whose PARENTS COULDN'T DRINK FROM THE SAME WATER FOUNTAIN OR RIDE IN THE FRONT OF THE BUS. Were Jews visibly treated like this in public?

I'm not going to keep arguing with you. Granted, your smarter then the other fella, but shit, I don't have the energy for this. Good day!


Jews were persecuted in every society they've ever lived in. What did they do?

Stuck together, worked hard and excelled.

I'd rather ride on the back of a bus than be ridding in a gas chamber.


Why do blacks get pulled over more than whites? Cause they fit the description way more than whites.

but now they skew the numbers and pull over white people for no reason. just to balance out the system. Just for fear of a racial profiling suit.
 
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Financial scholarships are available at most universities based on family income. If you get accepted to a good school, you can apply for financial aid.

What you're probably thinking about are things like the united negro college fund, scholarships exclusively for blacks. Is that a little racist? Yeah. But guess what, most scholarships go to white students and pass over black students sheerly based on a numbers game. Most people respond "well if they created a white only scholarship fund, everyone would say its racist!". Well fuck, every scholarship is a white scholarship. There are MORE white people applying with higher grades, at a rate where a black kid with OK grades would never get into college.

Thats where the logical argument comes in and says "ok, well maybe black kids need exclusive help to financial aid". Its less about putting down the white, and more about empowering the black.

This is why I think you're playing with us. You think that merit-based scholarships should be merit-based (or maybe you don't, maybe I'm giving you too much credit), but then you think that race is somehow important. Like it matters that a black kid with "OK grades" doesn't get a scholarship, even though a white kid with "OK grades" wouldn't get it either...

Affirmative action means settling for less than you could have. If it didn't, there'd be no affirmative action, because it'd be a non-binding policy. For example:

If two people apply for X, and one of them is white and one of them is black, and the white one is better qualified, affirmative action effectively states that the black one should be selected at least some portion of the time... simply for being black. Its not hard to understand why that is a poor strategy.
 
I think you're playing games with us. You must be a troll or an alternative identity for riddarhusetgal.

If I were playing games with you, I wouldn't bother putting up such coherent and sensible arguments. You guys on the other hand....:D
 
What came first, black crime or white discrimination? Go back as far as you need to.

This is a sunk cost, for lack of a better term. Who cares how it started? What came first: bad parents or criminals? What came first: psychological disorders or crime? Neither of those make sense, why does "black crime or white discrimination" make sense?

The cause doesn't matter. Its clear that there's more crime committed by a group that can be easily visually identified.

Edit: I gotta get out of this thread. Bye.
 
lol, I'm glad you can read statistics, too bad you don't know shit about the root causes of crime to be able to analyze why the stats are the way they are. Let me blow your mind with a complimentary fact: people in jail are also mostly uneducated and poor. What makes you racist isn't the fact that you cited the statistic, but the fact that you don't give a shit as to why it is the way it is. Be honest, you see that number, and you think black people are the plague as if they can't help themselves but to commit crime. You honestly don't give a fuck about educating yourself as to WHY its so high. You just accept they commit crimes because thats the way they are. There are plenty of good black families out there JUST LIKE YOURS, working their asses off, but you don't care to see that. You just see what you want to see. Shieeet...are you a member of stormfront?

Whoa, so you're calling me racist because you think I don't give a shit about what causes crime? Talk about the dumbest thing I have heard in a long time. You cannot claim someone is racist because I don't care about why a certain statistic exists lol damn.

And I don't give a fuck as to educating myself as to why it is so high? Well I am glad you can fucking read my mind.

And again I ask you, WHERE THE FUCK IS MY FUCKING SOCIAL PROGRAM YOU FUCK. LIKE YOU SAID PLENTY OF THEIR FAMILIES ARE WORKING THEIR ASSES OFF, SO WERE MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS, AGAIN WHERE THE FUCK IS MY SOCIAL PROGRAM?

And wow of course there is a correlation between poverty and crime, congrats you just repeated something we all probably learned in 5th grade. But again, it goes deeper than that. I know you liberals can't think more than one step deep at a time here, but just because someone is poor doesn't mean they will commit a crime. Check out some more statistics here buddy:

Poverty in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not going to do all the math for you because it is probably above your level, but basically the amount of poor white people, is greater than the number of poor black people. O.k., so how come black people FARRRRRRRRR outnumber white people in prison, not just in numbers, but when you talk about proportions the numbers really get scary.

The thing that sickens, yes literally sickens me about your type is you are way to thick-headed to even consider having an intelligent discussion. I point out the fact that there is an obvious problem with the black race here in America and things like crime. IT can be proven on paper. Did I ever say I don't want to fix it? No, I would love to see it changed. Did I ever say I don't care? Absolutely not, you have no fucking clue what organizations I may or not be involved in in regards to helping out underprivileged people. People like Bill Cosby and Clarence Thomas have been talking about this problem for YEARSSSSSSSSSS. Does that make them racist against there own kind you stupid shit? Fuck no. It makes them intelligent because they recognize a problem when they see it. People like YOU are the ones who make it impossible to discuss anything with. You AUTOMATICALLY assume I am racist because I point out facts? Talk about an idiot. Ultimately YOU are the one holding people back, you would rather spoon feed these people rather than giving them a kick in the ass. And again, this problem has nothing to do with being solely black, these problems exist all over different ethnic groups, hispanics, asians, and whites. The only difference between all the groups is how prevalent the problems are. If you would listen to some smart people like Clarence Thomas (supreme court justice, I just assume you liberals now don't pay any attention to anyone but obamaaaaaaa) you would understand "Holy SHIT it isn't just the white people who see the problem, hell leaders of their own race see the problems".

It does not make me racist for stating facts, and the fact you think so absolutely sickens me and you are a disgrace to this country. Anyone who cannot admit facts does not deserve to vote, because then what are you basis your opinions off of? Lol.

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Sigh, can't read can you. I didn't say you were racist cause you pointed out facts, I said you were racist because you were ignoring why the facts are the way they are. Why would you bring them up otherwise? Black people commit crime. So whats your point? Generally you make some sort of argument with your evidence. You didn't make a point with that statistic, leading me to assume you used to prove how "bad" black people are.

What did bill cosby and clarence thomas say? For black people to get their shit together? Fantastic. How do we apply that to economic and policy now? Send a big fat memo to every black male in jail for possession of marijuana: "Note to offender: get your shit together. Don't commit crime.". Or maybe we should fucking look into policies that get them into schools and jobs.

Tell you what, make your point about crime statistics. Use it coherently to support your argument please. You get the last word about crime statistics. Thats all. I'm done too.
 
I didn't say you were racist cause you pointed out facts, I said you were racist because you were ignoring why the facts are the way they are.

I never ignored the facts, you just assumed I didn't know. I thought it was common knowledge crime & poverty go hand in hand. But any logical person would never come to reason that someone is a racist because they are ignoring facts, that's just ignorant. If you had any intelligence whatsoever, you *might* have called me ignorant, but to call me racist because of that? Lol, you liberals these days...
 
the idealology of the left is only subcribed to by a small minority of the American people

Summary of Party Affiliation - Rasmussen Reports
Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans

have to be kidding yourself that the reason 90% of the black population voted for Obama because of his political views, it obviously had largely to do with race.

John Kerry and Al Gore got around the same. Usually about 85% of blacks vote democrat. 75% of Jews do, also.

party... who is giving away the free shit

That would be both parties. Below is a former criminal shaking Bush's hand after he signed the Second Chance Act, which gives free shit to people getting out of prison.

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I never ignored the facts, you just assumed I didn't know. I thought it was common knowledge crime & poverty go hand in hand. But any logical person would never come to reason that someone is a racist because they are ignoring facts, that's just ignorant. If you had any intelligence whatsoever, you *might* have called me ignorant, but to call me racist because of that? Lol, you liberals these days...

Again, I never said you ignored facts. What you did ignore was what your evidence was suppose to prove. Which I still don't know yet. And I'm guessing neither do you.
 
Is the right somehow more moral and correct to stoop to these levels?

Both parties are evil, one just exploits the "needs" of a certain demographic of people to buy votes. That exact same party is pushed in churches, politics is something rarely ever discussed in a "republican" church.

Ah, so the black people that vote democratic are just retarded huh

No, anyone who votes democrat is a retard

Also... "democracy is like three wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch." :-)

Hot damn ... a beatuiful quote from Refrozen followed by my sig.
 
The problem isn't with blacks, the problem is with American blacks.

Even other blacks don't like American blacks. Blacks come from all over the world and work hard and make it.

The majority of crime and other social issues come specifically form black americans because of the culture they promote and encourage. Hard work and good grades are shunned while gold teef and 'keepin it real' are encouraged.

Until they get their social shit in order, all the welfare and AA in the world will not be able to help them.